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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1781 » by knicks94 » Sun Jun 1, 2025 3:38 am

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Problem is everybody sleeping on the Pacers like they didn’t make to the ECF two years in a row

They got by beating on an injured Knicks team last year. This season they clearly outcoached the Knicks.


What they didn’t do is fire their coach and blow up their team because they lost in the ECF

Assuming that Thibs and Carlisle are on the same level it would make sense to bring the former back, but they are not equals.
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1782 » by KnicksGadfly » Sun Jun 1, 2025 3:39 am

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This is pretty damning to me.
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1783 » by NYKat » Sun Jun 1, 2025 3:52 am

If it was up to the fan base Thibs would have been fired the year we had Kemba and Fournier and would never have even got this far
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1784 » by KnicksIn5 » Sun Jun 1, 2025 4:01 am

Realistically, there is a near 0% chance they fire Thibs after making the ECF. I'm in the boat that they got as far as they did in spite of Thibs, not because of him. His management of the bench is near criminally incompetent. His inability to adapt to the flow of individual games is a major weakness. His lack of feel for the game and when to utilize timeouts effectively is extremely subpar. It boils down to he's the kind of coach that will get you to the playoffs, maybe go on a little run, but he is NOT a championship coach. I just hope we don't waste too many years being happy with the results that he gives you instead of chasing more.
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1785 » by NiceLikeChrist » Sun Jun 1, 2025 4:12 am

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knicks94 wrote:Imagine losing back to back playoff series to the Pacers and calling it a success!


Problem is everybody sleeping on the Pacers like they didn’t make to the ECF two years in a row

I’ll continue to sleep on them. They are like those jimmy butler Miami teams. They are going to get dog walked in the finals.

They are not better than us but our coach limits our ceiling and even our floor at this point. Thibs used to be known as a floor raiser but the way he uses our roster he doesn’t even do that. We’re playing a gimped version of our roster nearly every single game.

We played 18 games this postseason and we had how many front to back good showings? I’ll tell you. Two. That’s it. 2 good all around games out of 18. That’s coaching.
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1786 » by NoStatsGuy » Sun Jun 1, 2025 7:42 am

Yall can cry and yap as much as you want. Thibs isnt going anywhere. And for your own mental health sake id suggest you deal with it and get along with the idea of him coaching probably at least 2 more years.
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1787 » by The KnicksFix » Sun Jun 1, 2025 9:08 am

NoStatsGuy wrote:Yall can cry and yap as much as you want. Thibs isnt going anywhere. And for your own mental health sake id suggest you deal with it and get along with the idea of him coaching probably at least 2 more years.


I see mediocrity is your forté
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1788 » by NYKat » Sun Jun 1, 2025 10:50 am

NoStatsGuy wrote:Yall can cry and yap as much as you want. Thibs isnt going anywhere. And for your own mental health sake id suggest you deal with it and get along with the idea of him coaching probably at least 2 more years.


Pretty much

And the guy deserves the shot even though everyone thinks they’re a better coach than him.
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1789 » by Knicks218 » Sun Jun 1, 2025 11:42 am

I think Knicks give Thibs 1 more year because we did get further this year to the ECF. Knicks will make off-season moves. I really think we get Giannis.

OG, Bridges, Mitch, Duce. For Giannis, Dame. Works in Trade Machine. Sign Bruce Brown.

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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1790 » by gavran » Sun Jun 1, 2025 11:43 am

Knicks218 wrote:I think Knicks give Thibs 1 more year because we did get further this year to the ECF. Knicks will make off-season moves. I really think we get Giannis.

OG, Bridges, Mitch, Duce. For Giannis, Dame. Works in Trade Machine. Sign Bruce Brown.

PG- Brunson/Dame
SG-Brown
SF-Hart
PF-Giannis
C-Towns

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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1791 » by Knicks218 » Sun Jun 1, 2025 11:44 am

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Knicks218 wrote:I think Knicks give Thibs 1 more year because we did get further this year to the ECF. Knicks will make off-season moves. I really think we get Giannis.

OG, Bridges, Mitch, Duce. For Giannis, Dame. Works in Trade Machine. Sign Bruce Brown.

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PF-Giannis
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1792 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Jun 1, 2025 12:19 pm

NYKat wrote:
NoStatsGuy wrote:Yall can cry and yap as much as you want. Thibs isnt going anywhere. And for your own mental health sake id suggest you deal with it and get along with the idea of him coaching probably at least 2 more years.


Pretty much

And the guy deserves the shot even though everyone thinks they’re a better coach than him.


Thibs deserves to be fired. That's about it. He sucks. He has been exposed yet again as a fraud. He doesn't run offense and his defense is pure trash. The talent on the roster pushed it to 6 in the ECF with ZERO coaching. The game tells you what to do. The dumbest philosophy ever. He's a defensive asst and nothing more.
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1793 » by GettinitDone » Sun Jun 1, 2025 12:25 pm

I don't understand how people are still giving Thibs a pass

Since the regular season, we haven't been able to defend elite teams' three point shooting we're watching the Aaron Wiggins, Isaiah Joes burn us with 3s, and the issue was never fixed all the way throughout to end of postseason... I mean Thomas Bryant had practice 3s in conference finals (think a scrub like that could even get a shot off against the Thunder??)

Just a simple screen frees point of attackers go for a wide open, defenseless paint for easy dunks

Thibs is supposed to be this defensive coach, but our defense was so bad in this series it's what TV analysts talked about that it's why we lost the games, we're maybe the worst defensive Conference Finals team ever

He is sure as heck not an offensive coach, so what exactly did he do for us/ the team?? Not playing players who're doing a phenomenal job in 1st halves in 2nd halves (Deuce/ Mitch)???

If being in the ECF, its first appearance in 25 years, with a chance to make the NBA Finals and possibly win a chip, did NOT push the team to play its best defense then nothing will... I mean what made anyone think this outcome would be any different next season with him at the helm again???
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1794 » by HabenKG » Sun Jun 1, 2025 12:37 pm

Rose should offer Thibs an office gig and just move on from him as a coach. I'm not sure if Mike Malone is the answer but atleast he's a champion....
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1795 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jun 1, 2025 12:38 pm

GettinitDone wrote:I don't understand how people are still giving Thibs a pass

Since the regular season, we haven't been able to defend elite teams' three point shooting we're watching the Aaron Wiggins, Isaiah Joes burn us with 3s, and the issue was never fixed all the way throughout to end of postseason... I mean Thomas Bryant had practice 3s in conference finals (think a scrub like that could even get a shot off against the Thunder??)

Just a simple screen frees point of attackers go for a wide open, defenseless paint for easy dunks

Thibs is supposed to be this defensive coach, but our defense was so bad in this series it's what TV analysts talked about that it's why we lost the games, we're maybe the worst defensive Conference Finals team ever

He is sure as heck not an offensive coach, so what exactly did he do for us/ the team?? Not playing players who're doing a phenomenal job in 1st halves in 2nd halves (Deuce/ Mitch)???

If being in the ECF, its first appearance in 25 years, with a chance to make the NBA Finals and possibly win a chip, did NOT push the team to play its best defense then nothing will... I mean what made anyone think this outcome would be any different next season with him at the helm again???


Waiting until we go down 0-2 in the conference finals to go away from a starting line up that we knew since January wasn't working and finally using the bench are definitely cause for criticism. Kinda hard to build chemistry when you only play 7 players and neglect the rest.

Defense aside, the way this team plays offensively is just brain dead. KAT and JB had zero chemistry. I don't see much changing in any areas of concern with Tom in charge unfortunately.
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1796 » by NoStatsGuy » Sun Jun 1, 2025 12:40 pm

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NoStatsGuy wrote:Yall can cry and yap as much as you want. Thibs isnt going anywhere. And for your own mental health sake id suggest you deal with it and get along with the idea of him coaching probably at least 2 more years.


I see mediocrity is your forté


hast noting to do with what my forté is. Thats just the reality.

All the coaches in the playoffs coached some bad games and some amazing games. Im not even arguing most of the points yall bring up.

but we dont gain anything from the constant crying. hes our coach and he will be for the foreseeable future. im gonna ride with him until the players are out and he lost the lockerroom. and again, i know he has his flaws and id love to see him go 9-10 man deep in the regular season and reduce minutes on the starters. thibs is a pretty good coach, definitley one of the better ones in the league. you dont just throw that out of the window for unproven people or people that dont fit, just for the sake of firing the coach.
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1797 » by The KnicksFix » Sun Jun 1, 2025 1:55 pm

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NoStatsGuy wrote:Yall can cry and yap as much as you want. Thibs isnt going anywhere. And for your own mental health sake id suggest you deal with it and get along with the idea of him coaching probably at least 2 more years.


I see mediocrity is your forté


hast noting to do with what my forté is. Thats just the reality.

All the coaches in the playoffs coached some bad games and some amazing games. Im not even arguing most of the points yall bring up.

but we dont gain anything from the constant crying. hes our coach and he will be for the foreseeable future. im gonna ride with him until the players are out and he lost the lockerroom. and again, i know he has his flaws and id love to see him go 9-10 man deep in the regular season and reduce minutes on the starters. thibs is a pretty good coach, definitley one of the better ones in the league. you dont just throw that out of the window for unproven people or people that dont fit, just for the sake of firing the coach.


You act as if you know the guy is staying. All I’m saying is people within the organization were talking and continued to notice his head scratching decisions. Kolek and huk are the most expensive second round players ever yet got minimal or no playing time over the year. Whether or not you want to realize it, it’s been posted and talked about by Knick content creators such as KFTV who are represented by CAA and those who are funded by Dolan that “Thibs is coaching on thin ice”. Of course Thibs will look like an amazing coach but when you wake up and before you Type anything , ask yourself if the offense you saw here was not the same offense you saw in years past with Randle and Payton. Randle and rose. That means THERES A LACK OF ADAPTABILITY.

His lack of adjustments costed us THE SERIES. PERIOD. so before you continue to yap, and type as if you know something, just stop and get help while you can. His job is not as solid and certain as you think. There have been rumblings from within the front office about constructing a roster for him to not only not play it, but risk injury to his starting 5 who he overplayed.

As for the bolded part of your statement, he’s not even in the top 10 of coaches and it ain’t even close. Spo. Atkinson. Udoka. Kerr. Daigenault. Finch. Carlisle. Nick Nurse. Tyronn Lue. And the list doesn’t include Malone and Bud who coached the majority of the season last year with their respective teams. That doesn’t put him in the top third of the league. That puts him in the second third which makes him MEDIOCRE. If you really think he’s one of the better coaches in the league, I again, suggest you stop typing and maybe reassess your basketball analysis, Because you’re going to “keep riding with him” to mediocrity.

I can almost guarantee that you have been watching ball for about 25 years or less, and because you’ve had success with him as your coach, your sticking to him because that’s the only success you know. That’s not how you win a ring and that’s not how life works, bud.
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1798 » by Gravy » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:06 pm

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wut? lmao this is straight delirious. Every single one was being teared by the fans. And because a players is **** doesn't mean u can maximize him. And no Carlisle is not using Obi the same way.

We're going to add KAT and Delon Wright to the list after they go to another team lol



I honestly think thibs ruined fourniers nba carreer. He was a near 40% 3pt shooter when we desperately needed shooting and thibs put him in the doghouse for no good reason. yea, he was a bad defender but so were most of the other players on that roster.

other than that id agree. all these playerrs pretty much have peaked and kemba was washed and old.

Fournier was putting up empty stats on bad teams most of his career. When he had to be an important piece on a playoff team here his flawed defense dragged them down.
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1799 » by Meat » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:13 pm

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NoStatsGuy wrote:Yall can cry and yap as much as you want. Thibs isnt going anywhere. And for your own mental health sake id suggest you deal with it and get along with the idea of him coaching probably at least 2 more years.


I see mediocrity is your forté

You think the ecf is mediocre??
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Re: Thibs needs to go 

Post#1800 » by The KnicksFix » Sun Jun 1, 2025 2:14 pm

Meat wrote:
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NoStatsGuy wrote:Yall can cry and yap as much as you want. Thibs isnt going anywhere. And for your own mental health sake id suggest you deal with it and get along with the idea of him coaching probably at least 2 more years.


I see mediocrity is your forté

You think the ecf is mediocre??


Do you think Thibs is a mediocre coach? If your answer to that is no, then which tier of coaches do you put him in?

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