Thibs needs to go

[Kidknick!]

You act as if you know the guy is staying. All I’m saying is people within the organization were talking and continued to notice his head scratching decisions. Kolek and huk are the most expensive second round players ever yet got minimal or no playing time over the year. Whether or not you want to realize it, it’s been posted and talked about by Knick content creators such as KFTV who are represented by CAA and those who are funded by Dolan that “Thibs is coaching on thin ice”. Of course Thibs will look like an amazing coach but when you wake up and before you Type anything , ask yourself if the offense you saw here was not the same offense you saw in years past with Randle and Payton. Randle and rose. That means THERES A LACK OF ADAPTABILITY.

His lack of adjustments costed us THE SERIES. PERIOD. so before you continue to yap, and type as if you know something, just stop and get help while you can. His job is not as solid and certain as you think. There have been rumblings from within the front office about constructing a roster for him to not only not play it, but risk injury to his starting 5 who he overplayed.

As for the bolded part of your statement, he’s not even in the top 10 of coaches and it ain’t even close. Spo. Atkinson. Udoka. Kerr. Daigenault. Finch. Carlisle. Nick Nurse. Tyronn Lue. And the list doesn’t include Malone and Bud who coached the majority of the season last year with their respective teams. That doesn’t put him in the top third of the league. That puts him in the second third which makes him MEDIOCRE. If you really think he’s one of the better coaches in the league, I again, suggest you stop typing and maybe reassess your basketball analysis, Because you’re going to “keep riding with him” to mediocrity.

I can almost guarantee that you have been watching ball for about 25 years or less, and because you’ve had success with him as your coach, your sticking to him because that’s the only success you know. That’s not how you win a ring and that’s not how life works, bud.

Who the heck watches KFTV?

They got 100,000 subscribers and are funded by Dolan and CAA, so I would say quite a lot

CP knew Brunson was coming the year before. Bro was talking Brunson before ANYBODY. He has the most reliable info.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Who the heck watches KFTV?

They got 100,000 subscribers and are funded by Dolan and CAA, so I would say quite a lot

CP knew Brunson was coming the year before. Bro was talking Brunson before ANYBODY. He has the most reliable info. Anyone who can't see that is crazy.

please try to make your points without these. they don't help with the respectful tone we want to foster.

[Iron Mantis]

Who the heck watches KFTV?

They got 100,000 subscribers and are funded by Dolan and CAA, so I would say quite a lot

CP knew Brunson was coming the year before. Bro was talking Brunson before ANYBODY. He has the most reliable info. Anyone who can't see that is crazy.

For months, with conviction, CP persistently said "Leon wants Towns"....and that's exactly what happened. He's plugged in.

[NYKat]

We all know Leon isn't firing Thibs. With that being said, ask yourself if this squad would have made it to the finals or even possibly win a championship if you theoretically replaced Thibs with other top tier coaches in the league. Would coaches like Spo, Kerr, Carlisle, Atkinson, Bickerstaff, Lue bring us further? I say yes and there lies the problem with Leons relationship with Thibs. If there is a better coach to be found this off season, Leon won't pull the trigger. We're stuck with Thibs for at least another year or 2 with the contract they recently gave him.

If we had Spo I think the current team wins the title this year and probably the next 2 years as we improve the bench… he’s the exact opposite of Thibs. Wish Dolan threw 20m per year at him

If we had Joker, Luka or Shai we probably win the title this year too

[spree8]

We all know Leon isn't firing Thibs. With that being said, ask yourself if this squad would have made it to the finals or even possibly win a championship if you theoretically replaced Thibs with other top tier coaches in the league. Would coaches like Spo, Kerr, Carlisle, Atkinson, Bickerstaff, Lue bring us further? I say yes and there lies the problem with Leons relationship with Thibs. If there is a better coach to be found this off season, Leon won't pull the trigger. We're stuck with Thibs for at least another year or 2 with the contract they recently gave him.

If we had Spo I think the current team wins the title this year and probably the next 2 years as we improve the bench… he’s the exact opposite of Thibs. Wish Dolan threw 20m per year at him

If we had Joker, Luka or Shai we probably win the title this year too

How profound. Only difference is we don’t need to trade a superstar package for a coach. Just fire n hire

[NYKat]

If we had Spo I think the current team wins the title this year and probably the next 2 years as we improve the bench… he’s the exact opposite of Thibs. Wish Dolan threw 20m per year at him

If we had Joker, Luka or Shai we probably win the title this year too

How profound. Only difference is we don’t need to trade a superstar package for a coach. Just fire n hire

Because the next coach is guaranteed to do better than Thibs

[spree8]

If we had Joker, Luka or Shai we probably win the title this year too

How profound. Only difference is we don’t need to trade a superstar package for a coach. Just fire n hire

Because the next coach is guaranteed to do better than Thibs

We’re talking about Spo here, and if you think he wouldn’t then I don’t know what else to say lol

[NYKat]

How profound. Only difference is we don’t need to trade a superstar package for a coach. Just fire n hire

Because the next coach is guaranteed to do better than Thibs

We’re talking about Spo here, and if you think he wouldn’t then I don’t know what else to say lol

Nothing is guaranteed, but the other option is to continue with the guy who has taken us further every year he’s been here

[The KnicksFix]

Who the heck watches KFTV?

They got 100,000 subscribers and are funded by Dolan and CAA, so I would say quite a lot

CP knew Brunson was coming the year before. Bro was talking Brunson before ANYBODY. He has the most reliable info.

Agreed, CP was talking KAT to NY for Julius right after the OG December of 2023. At the time I thought there was no way we would make that trade. Lo and behold we do.

I would say he’s a credible source. He’s also saying Thibs is on thin ice and Malone isn’t the guy we will go after if we change coaches.

[The KnicksFix]

Fournier was putting up empty stats on bad teams most of his career. When he had to be an important piece on a playoff team here his flawed defense dragged them down.

So why is it that when the rubber meets the road, our players’ weaknesses are exploited during the playoffs, but Thibs can’t seem to do the same for opposing players. Incredible, when guys come to our team, all of a sudden “their flaws are exposed”.

You are always going to blame Thibs for everything when the players themselves say they love him and reports are coming out that they have been frustrated with KAT all season. Put some responsibility on the players.

Read on Twitter

Look man. What I’m saying is this. I’m a doctor. If a patient comes in with a lung problem and I do what I think is best for the patient, but the patient dies, even though I don’t even bother to consult a pulmonologist, whose fault is it?
If I don’t try to do everything to save that patient, and I keep trying the same thing over and over which isn’t working, who’s fault is it?

We can sit here and point the finger at KAT, yes his defense has been appalling. But you know who else has been appalling? Hart has fell asleep and been burnt on defense time and time again, and hasn’t hit consistent 3’s since January. Brunson, though he tries, gets posted up on the block or blown by. Where was the zone defense?? Where was any sort of an offensive system to get us easy shots other than grind it down shots late in the shot clock.

Brunson loves him because it’s family ties. But just because you’re cool with someone doesn’t mean they should be your boss or coworker. You don’t mix family with business. So it’s either give Thibs the kind of team he can coach. Or get a coach who can work with the players he has.

[The KnicksFix]

Fournier was putting up empty stats on bad teams most of his career. When he had to be an important piece on a playoff team here his flawed defense dragged them down.

So why is it that when the rubber meets the road, our players’ weaknesses are exploited during the playoffs, but Thibs can’t seem to do the same for opposing players. Incredible, when guys come to our team, all of a sudden “their flaws are exposed”.

We just progressed to the ECF, talking about “exploited” smh

Yes Kampuchea. That’s exactly what they did. They targeted towns or they target JB. You know how you don’t target players with a defensive deficiency? You implement a zone to mask that. The same way Denver did to make Jokic and Murray. You don’t run the same defense over and over and over and not try something else. You don’t keep playing cam Payne who was EXPLOITED on defense. Carlisle said as much when he said the reason we won game 3 was because we started to play better defenders. That’s quite literally the definition of being exploited.

[The KnicksFix]

hast noting to do with what my forté is. Thats just the reality.

All the coaches in the playoffs coached some bad games and some amazing games. Im not even arguing most of the points yall bring up.

but we dont gain anything from the constant crying. hes our coach and he will be for the foreseeable future. im gonna ride with him until the players are out and he lost the lockerroom. and again, i know he has his flaws and id love to see him go 9-10 man deep in the regular season and reduce minutes on the starters. thibs is a pretty good coach, definitley one of the better ones in the league. you dont just throw that out of the window for unproven people or people that dont fit, just for the sake of firing the coach.

You act as if you know the guy is staying. All I’m saying is people within the organization were talking and continued to notice his head scratching decisions. Kolek and huk are the most expensive second round players ever yet got minimal or no playing time over the year. Whether or not you want to realize it, it’s been posted and talked about by Knick content creators such as KFTV who are represented by CAA and those who are funded by Dolan that “Thibs is coaching on thin ice”. Of course Thibs will look like an amazing coach but when you wake up and before you Type anything , ask yourself if the offense you saw here was not the same offense you saw in years past with Randle and Payton. Randle and rose. That means THERES A LACK OF ADAPTABILITY.

His lack of adjustments costed us THE SERIES. PERIOD. so before you continue to yap, and type as if you know something, just stop and get help while you can. His job is not as solid and certain as you think. There have been rumblings from within the front office about constructing a roster for him to not only not play it, but risk injury to his starting 5 who he overplayed.

As for the bolded part of your statement, he’s not even in the top 10 of coaches and it ain’t even close. Spo. Atkinson. Udoka. Kerr. Daigenault. Finch. Carlisle. Nick Nurse. Tyronn Lue. And the list doesn’t include Malone and Bud who coached the majority of the season last year with their respective teams. That doesn’t put him in the top third of the league. That puts him in the second third which makes him MEDIOCRE. If you really think he’s one of the better coaches in the league, I again, suggest you stop typing and maybe reassess your basketball analysis, Because you’re going to “keep riding with him” to mediocrity.

I can almost guarantee that you have been watching ball for about 25 years or less, and because you’ve had success with him as your coach, your sticking to him because that’s the only success you know. That’s not how you win a ring and that’s not how life works, bud.

Who the heck watches KFTV?

Serious question. Not trying to sound snarky, but do you actually watch KFTV or other Knick content creators? CP is very connected as some other posters have noted. CP was calling the KAT trade shortly after the OG trade in December 2023. He also said we were trying to move off the RJ and quick contracts, which was why RJ was signed for an extension. These forums are not the only place to grow a knowledge and understanding of the team’s direction. Actually realgm is probably the last place I go to, KFTV is first. As CP has stated. Thibs is on thin ice and Malone is not a candidate they are looking at.

[MrDollarBills]

Josh definitely needs to catch more heat for his defense. And his careless turnovers.

[Adelheid]

Josh definitely needs to catch more heat for his defense. And his careless turnovers.

the way he plays defense, looks like what safeties do in football

[Pr0nzingis]

So why is it that when the rubber meets the road, our players’ weaknesses are exploited during the playoffs, but Thibs can’t seem to do the same for opposing players. Incredible, when guys come to our team, all of a sudden “their flaws are exposed”.

You are always going to blame Thibs for everything when the players themselves say they love him and reports are coming out that they have been frustrated with KAT all season. Put some responsibility on the players.

Read on Twitter

Look man. What I’m saying is this. I’m a doctor. If a patient comes in with a lung problem and I do what I think is best for the patient, but the patient dies, even though I don’t even bother to consult a pulmonologist, whose fault is it?
If I don’t try to do everything to save that patient, and I keep trying the same thing over and over which isn’t working, who’s fault is it?

We can sit here and point the finger at KAT, yes his defense has been appalling. But you know who else has been appalling? Hart has fell asleep and been burnt on defense time and time again, and hasn’t hit consistent 3’s since January. Brunson, though he tries, gets posted up on the block or blown by. Where was the zone defense?? Where was any sort of an offensive system to get us easy shots other than grind it down shots late in the shot clock.

Brunson loves him because it’s family ties. But just because you’re cool with someone doesn’t mean they should be your boss or coworker. You don’t mix family with business. So it’s either give Thibs the kind of team he can coach. Or get a coach who can work with the players he has.

Not yours because every year your patients are dying later and later. I don't even care they are coming to you healthier than before, cause i lack critical thinking.

[The KnicksFix]

You are always going to blame Thibs for everything when the players themselves say they love him and reports are coming out that they have been frustrated with KAT all season. Put some responsibility on the players.

Read on Twitter

Look man. What I’m saying is this. I’m a doctor. If a patient comes in with a lung problem and I do what I think is best for the patient, but the patient dies, even though I don’t even bother to consult a pulmonologist, whose fault is it?
If I don’t try to do everything to save that patient, and I keep trying the same thing over and over which isn’t working, who’s fault is it?

We can sit here and point the finger at KAT, yes his defense has been appalling. But you know who else has been appalling? Hart has fell asleep and been burnt on defense time and time again, and hasn’t hit consistent 3’s since January. Brunson, though he tries, gets posted up on the block or blown by. Where was the zone defense?? Where was any sort of an offensive system to get us easy shots other than grind it down shots late in the shot clock.

Brunson loves him because it’s family ties. But just because you’re cool with someone doesn’t mean they should be your boss or coworker. You don’t mix family with business. So it’s either give Thibs the kind of team he can coach. Or get a coach who can work with the players he has.

Not yours because every year your patients are dying later and later. I don't even care they are coming to you healthier than before, cause i lack critical thinking.

This man. 1000% this

[knicks94]

I think Thibs' ceiling is an EC finals appearance and nothing else. There are only a handful of NBA coaches who can take a team without a top 3 generational talent to the finals. We might need to wait at most one more season to find that guy.

[Gravy]

So why is it that when the rubber meets the road, our players’ weaknesses are exploited during the playoffs, but Thibs can’t seem to do the same for opposing players. Incredible, when guys come to our team, all of a sudden “their flaws are exposed”.

You are always going to blame Thibs for everything when the players themselves say they love him and reports are coming out that they have been frustrated with KAT all season. Put some responsibility on the players.

Read on Twitter

Look man. What I’m saying is this. I’m a doctor. If a patient comes in with a lung problem and I do what I think is best for the patient, but the patient dies, even though I don’t even bother to consult a pulmonologist, whose fault is it?
If I don’t try to do everything to save that patient, and I keep trying the same thing over and over which isn’t working, who’s fault is it?

We can sit here and point the finger at KAT, yes his defense has been appalling. But you know who else has been appalling? Hart has fell asleep and been burnt on defense time and time again, and hasn’t hit consistent 3’s since January. Brunson, though he tries, gets posted up on the block or blown by. Where was the zone defense?? Where was any sort of an offensive system to get us easy shots other than grind it down shots late in the shot clock.

Brunson loves him because it’s family ties. But just because you’re cool with someone doesn’t mean they should be your boss or coworker. You don’t mix family with business. So it’s either give Thibs the kind of team he can coach. Or get a coach who can work with the players he has.

They'll probably change the players before they change the coach, Brunson and Hart got Thibs' back.

Read on Twitter

[knicksfan974]

Fournier was putting up empty stats on bad teams most of his career. When he had to be an important piece on a playoff team here his flawed defense dragged them down.

So why is it that when the rubber meets the road, our players’ weaknesses are exploited during the playoffs, but Thibs can’t seem to do the same for opposing players. Incredible, when guys come to our team, all of a sudden “their flaws are exposed”.

You are always going to blame Thibs for everything when the players themselves say they love him and reports are coming out that they have been frustrated with KAT all season. Put some responsibility on the players.

Read on Twitter

Thanks. Interesting, and even more the reason to seek a KAT for Giannis or KAT for JJJ and Bane trade.

[TGW]

Imagine losing back to back playoff series to the Pacers and calling it a success!

Problem is everybody sleeping on the Pacers like they didn’t make to the ECF two years in a row

I’ll continue to sleep on them. They are like those jimmy butler Miami teams. They are going to get dog walked in the finals.

They are not better than us but our coach limits our ceiling and even our floor at this point. Thibs used to be known as a floor raiser but the way he uses our roster he doesn’t even do that. We’re playing a gimped version of our roster nearly every single game.

We played 18 games this postseason and we had how many front to back good showings? I’ll tell you. Two. That’s it. 2 good all around games out of 18. That’s coaching.

You think okc wouldn’t sweep this Knicks team? The Pacers ran the Knicks off the court quite literally. And okc runs more than the Pacers.