Fake Trade Thread #7

[fatlever]

I think Sharpe can be pretty good but hes still a bit of a project and not very good right now. I wouldn't really be trying to trade for him.

18ppg is considered a project?

31% from 3
Not very good defender yet
He scores. He's athletic. Not much else to bank being worth a top 5 pick this year. Would much rather take a swing on Ace Tre, vj on a rookie deal.

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[JustBuzzin]

I think Sharpe can be pretty good but hes still a bit of a project and not very good right now. I wouldn't really be trying to trade for him.

18ppg is considered a project?

31% from 3
Not very good defender yet
He scores. He's athletic. Not much else to bank being worth a top 5 pick this year. Would much rather take a swing on Ace Tre, vj on a rookie deal.

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Yeah its a moot point anyway Portland would never trade him for this deal.

[vexco]

Shaedon Sharp and #11 for #4

@11 Khaman Maluach and Sharp upgrade two starting positions for the Hornets

No way the Blazers trade Sharpe. I would do #4 for Sharpe straight up. He's better than anyone in this draft not named Flagg or Harper imo.

What else does he do?

[JustBuzzin]

Shaedon Sharp and #11 for #4

@11 Khaman Maluach and Sharp upgrade two starting positions for the Hornets

No way the Blazers trade Sharpe. I would do #4 for Sharpe straight up. He's better than anyone in this draft not named Flagg or Harper imo.

What else does he do?

It doesn't matter not a realistic trade. Portland fans love his upside.

[Braggins]

New Orleans is stupid. I would inquire about Trey Murphy.

[wilson115]

KOC trying to sell us false hope.

Read on Twitter

Well, if there's any truth to this and given what they've already tried to pull off:

Mark, #4 and whatever for #2 and whatever else they can get from the Spurs. Gets them out of having to pay Mark and, if they land Harper, sets them up for the big one: getting out of having to pay LaMelo.

Or they could just go ahead already and try to ship out LaMelo on draft night. Get out from under MJ and Mitch's baggage, reshape the team in their image, whatever.

[fatlever]

Koc was just speculating for a fun exercise segment of what team could go worst to first. Not intel or anything.

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[Diop]

just checking my sanity, as i find sometimes i do look at basketball differently than the average Joe and have found my ideas can seem a little off.

Am I wrong in thinking it would be pointless in trading Nurkic and Okogie for Porzingis? They're all expiring.
he's 30 years old, often injured and even though he's a clear talent upgrade, we aren't attempting to win at all costs next year.

whats the point? i would at least want Green going out.

am i nuts? as normally trading bench expirings for Zingis would be a no brainer

[fatlever]

only point, i guess, would be getting him in for idea of closer look, see if resigning him makes sense for either side. bird rights? lee has a relationship already.
but, i wouldnt do it.

[HornetJail]

i don't understand why we wouldn't just go for a drastically better talent when it costs nothing. I have wanted to acquire a big man that can play both with and instead of Mark Williams. Porzingis is really everything I'd be looking for- spaces the floor, big target for Melo to pass to, defends quite well... come to think of it, he works really well with Moussa too.

Even if you only get 40 or 50 good games out of Porzingis, that's 30 or 40 more than you'd get out of Nurkic. And Okogie's skillset is duplicated a solid 5 times on our roster right now (in worse forms). I don't think we're losing much.

At some point you have to start trying to get better. We've been past that point for a couple seasons but better late than never.

That said, Porzingis' health issue in the playoffs needs to be resolved before I trade anything beyond salaries and a 2nd for him. If it's long COVID that is actually scary.

[JustBuzzin]

Y'all really suggesting Porzingis?

He's aging and injury prone. Would be a set back trading for him. We have to get healthier bodies.

[HornetJail]

Y'all really suggesting Porzingis?

He's aging and injury prone. Would be a set back trading for him. We have to get healthier bodies.

trading Nurkic and Okogie for anyone capable of playing basketball well is not a set back.

[JustBuzzin]

Y'all really suggesting Porzingis?

He's aging and injury prone. Would be a set back trading for him. We have to get healthier bodies.

trading Nurkic and Okogie for anyone capable of playing basketball well is not a set back.

Yeah can't wait to see Melo/Porzingis tag team together on the bench in street clothes. Dynamic bench duo!

[JustBuzzin]

In all seriousness KP would be a nice fit at center, but man it would suck because I know his body can't take a full season. Usually your body breaks down as you age. KP I'm afraid has seen his best days.

[yosemiteben]

It's not trying to get better IMO to trade for a guy on an expiring that hasn't shown the ability to stay healthy. I'd rather use assets to trade for a piece that we can actually rely on.

[JDR720]

My earlier idea about trading for Porzingis wasn't for KP, but for Boston to dump his salary and give us an asset to help them out. That may be more plausible if he wasn't expiring, since they can probably dump him other ways, but the Celtics are 100% going to look to dump salary to not pay a bunch of tax.

We shouldn't be giving assets for him though. He's older and can't stay healthy. If we're still rebuilding, trading for him (as in, we want to re-sign him) is one of the last things we should do.

[LofJ]

Just about all of the best teams have strong front-courts these days.

The Thunder with Chett and Hartenstein, the Pacers with Turner and Siakam, the Cavs with Mobley and Allen, the Timberwolves with Gobert and McDaniels, the Nuggets with Jokic and Gordon, the Bucks with Giannis and Lopez, the Rockets with Sengun and Smith/Eason, the Knicks with Towns/Robinson and OG, etc.

For the last decade or so we have barely had a starting center and we've never had a two-way impact power forward with size. I don't think it's a coincidence that the team has struggled to win during this period.

[MPM]

Just about all of the best teams have strong front-courts these days.

The Thunder with Chett and Hartenstein, the Pacers with Turner and Siakam, the Cavs with Mobley and Allen, the Timberwolves with Gobert and McDaniels, the Nuggets with Jokic and Gordon, the Bucks with Giannis and Lopez, the Rockets with Sengun and Smith/Eason, the Knicks with Towns/Robinson and OG, etc.

For the last decade or so we have barely had a starting center and we've never had a two-way impact power forward with size. I don't think it's a coincidence that the team has struggled to win during this period.

We've been too busy collecting undersized combo guards. It's a full on fetish. Like a houseful of Disney figurines.

[JDR720]

You can say the same about guards. SGA/Hali/Mitchell/Edwards/Murrary/Green/Brunson.

This is the "you need depth at every position era". We've never had good depth on both the front and backcourt at the same time.

Pretty much all of our depth, historically, has been concentrated in guards. Specifically smaller scoring guards. That same thing is true for today, but our lead guard is now 6'7 instead of 6'0.

Kemba/Lin/Melo/Mann/Sessions/Parker/Gordon(Ben)/Gordon(Hayward)/Graham/SmithJr/MCW etc.

All of these guys are one-way players, which has also been a problem. We've both lacked depth, and lacked two-way players.

[Bassman]

Regarding the Kevin O’Connor video linked earlier: I saw this pop up on my YT feed. It was speculation, but grounded in solid facts. He’s right…Charlotte has all of the five factors mentioned to attempt a bold “worst to first” trades strategy. He lists the 10 players he believes are impact veterans that could be traded for. Some were tempting but would any one of them make the Hornets real contenders? On a team filled with perpetually walking wounded, who know? While I don’t see Peterson or the owners as having that kind of bold approach, it would be a refreshing change from the grinding lack of success we’ve experienced for years.

My temptation is more in line with the notions proposed by some here, some on vblogs, where the Hornets find a high value deal for Melo, getting quality players (must include a PF and near star SG) and a pick or two, then engineering a trade up using picks to get Harper at 2. Other trades could also include Williams going out, but I don’t see a way to get a quality center back, so prefer to keep Mark and hope he becomes the guy we want to keep.