My Mavs offseason plan with UTA and ATL

Moderators: MoneyTalks41890, HartfordWhalers, Texas Chuck, BullyKing, Andre Roberstan, loserX, Trader_Joe, Mamba4Goat, pacers33granger

Mavrelous
Forum Mod - Mavericks
Forum Mod - Mavericks
Posts: 19,241
And1: 17,014
Joined: Aug 20, 2020

My Mavs offseason plan with UTA and ATL 

Post#1 » by Mavrelous » Mon Jun 2, 2025 9:58 am

Plan is to operate below the 2nd Apron

Draft Flagg of course...

Trades:
ATL sends: Niang + 3 2nds
ATL receives: Gafford (into TPE)/Marshall

Dallas sends: Gafford/Marshall/Hardy
Dallas receive: Sexton

UTA send: Sexton
UTA receive: Hardy/Niang (into MLE)/3 2nds from ATL

UTA sells Sexton for 3 2nds create ~20M TPE to sell for picks
ATL get a 2nd big with OO and backup wing who can put it on the floor
Mavs moves on from Gafford to have Lively/AD as centers, add an on ball guard instead of disappointing Hardy

FA signings:
Sign Chris Paul for TPMLE with promise to start.
Offer vet min to center like Brook Lopez or Capela in a backup role on a contender if they are interested.

Extensions:
Kyrie opts in and extends 108/2years comes up to 150/3 extension
Offer PJ full max extension, ~90/4, not sure if he'll take it
If Sexton works out, offer him 80/4 extension at the deadline, flat 20/yr

Operate a 2 timeline plan
Flagg, Lively, PJ, Christie on the young timeline
AD, Kyrie, Klay, CP3 on the old timeline
Sexton, Caleb Martin role players

Lively(28)/AD(20)/vet min center/Powell
AD(12)/PJ(36)/OMax
Flagg(30)/Martin(18)
Klay(28)/Christie(20)
CP3(28)/Sexton(20)/Kyrie/Williams

Strength: Defense and rebounding, killer rim protection + 2 POA defender in Christie and Martin, all main players are smart and good passers to operate high level offense w/o elite playmaking scorer like Luka dn injured Kyrie.
Weakness: Spacing, teams will pack the lane against this team, on ball scoring from guard position is suspect, team has high injury potential.

Preferable adjustment: negotiate with Powell to opt out and sign vet min, with promise to sign next year, gives the Mavs extra 1.8M room, not a big financial hit this year for Powell, will be compensated next year.
Defense wins draft lotteries!
Godaddycurse
RealGM
Posts: 21,801
And1: 13,749
Joined: Nov 13, 2019
 

Re: My Mavs offseason plan with UTA and ATL 

Post#2 » by Godaddycurse » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:06 am

Niang and Hardy combined makes more than the MLE exception (14.2 total salaries vs 14.1 MLE). I dont know if you get 100k leeway with exceptions though in the new cba
Mavrelous
Forum Mod - Mavericks
Forum Mod - Mavericks
Posts: 19,241
And1: 17,014
Joined: Aug 20, 2020

Re: My Mavs offseason plan with UTA and ATL 

Post#3 » by Mavrelous » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:10 am

Godaddycurse wrote:Niang and Hardy combined makes more than the MLE exception (14.2 total salaries vs 14.1 MLE). I dont know if you get 100k leeway with exceptions though in the new cba


That sucketh...
send Niang into Grizzlies room exception for Konchar + 2nd? Gives Grizzliess cap space and allows TPE for Jazz and adds a 2nd
Defense wins draft lotteries!
Darren
RealGM
Posts: 14,075
And1: 912
Joined: Nov 06, 2003

Re: My Mavs offseason plan with UTA and ATL 

Post#4 » by Darren » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:40 am

I don't like Sexton at all. I'd rather have Gafford. I think Utah keeps Klesser.
User avatar
Texas Chuck
Senior Mod - NBA TnT Forum
Senior Mod - NBA TnT Forum
Posts: 92,294
And1: 98,055
Joined: May 19, 2012
Location: Purgatory
   

Re: My Mavs offseason plan with UTA and ATL 

Post#5 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Jun 2, 2025 12:56 pm

So I'm unclear on values. Is Sexton worth more than Gafford? Does Marshall have positive value? How negative is Hardy? I think the Dallas part is all close enough to be whatever. But it requires Atlanta to want those guys and Ainge to be willing to sell that cheap. Less clear on that.

Don't hate the overall plan for Dallas. Its about what I expect. The "rumors" out of Dallas seem to indicate they are more interested in a PG like Paul than a combo guard like Sexton which makes me a little afraid they think Brandon Williams is ready for a significant role which feels pretty optimistic to me even though I like the guy.

And I'm guessing Dallas has to aim lower than BroLo/Capela at backup center, but one can dream.
ThunderBolt wrote:I’m going to let some of you in on a little secret I learned on realgm. If you don’t like a thread, not only do you not have to comment but you don’t even have to open it and read it. You’re welcome.
jayjaysee
King of the Trade Board
Posts: 20,733
And1: 7,726
Joined: Aug 05, 2012

Re: My Mavs offseason plan with UTA and ATL 

Post#6 » by jayjaysee » Mon Jun 2, 2025 1:02 pm

Maybe I’m wrong, but I think Dallas sends Atlanta a second and gets 22 for Utah? Or maybe Utah sends the second to Atlanta? They have 43 and 53 this year and really shouldn’t stop a trade to include both..

I’d have it as Utah pays their seconds to Atlanta and Dallas pays a second to Utah, since Utah should be more interested in distant 2nds and Dallas probably owes something for dumping Hardy?

Ainge doesn’t really need 22, but maybe he can trade up or maybe package it with stuff and get a protected future first. Whatever.

Gafford and Naji are both really good fits for Atlanta that they should be willing to pay for if they do get the two later seconds back to keep bench full? Maybe off.
Mavrelous
Forum Mod - Mavericks
Forum Mod - Mavericks
Posts: 19,241
And1: 17,014
Joined: Aug 20, 2020

Re: My Mavs offseason plan with UTA and ATL 

Post#7 » by Mavrelous » Mon Jun 2, 2025 1:28 pm

jayjaysee wrote:Maybe I’m wrong, but I think Dallas sends Atlanta a second and gets 22 for Utah? Or maybe Utah sends the second to Atlanta? They have 43 and 53 this year and really shouldn’t stop a trade to include both..

So, valuation originally was #22 for Gafford + Marshall, but UTA has enough low end 1sts that I think 2nds are more useful, ATL doesn't have near term 2nds, all of them are far ahead, which fits UTA needs since they have lots of picks incoming near term, but yeah deal works with #22 also.

I don't see Sexton staying in UTA this year, they will likely tank and he needs to play for his next contract, only other option is they extend him to buy his co-operation if they feel they can get value for him.

Texas Chuck wrote:it requires Atlanta to want those guys and Ainge to be willing to sell that cheap. Less clear on that.


Of course, that's true for every deal, Gafford fills a real need for them, and is a great fit with Trae offensively at least.
Naji fits lots of places, the deal can be easily modified to Gafford into TPE + 2 2nds and Naji dealt elsewhere.
Defense wins draft lotteries!
User avatar
Texas Chuck
Senior Mod - NBA TnT Forum
Senior Mod - NBA TnT Forum
Posts: 92,294
And1: 98,055
Joined: May 19, 2012
Location: Purgatory
   

Re: My Mavs offseason plan with UTA and ATL 

Post#8 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Jun 2, 2025 1:30 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Of course, that's true for every deal,.


I didn't think I was re-inventing the wheel lol. But yes it was an unnecessary addition by me.
ThunderBolt wrote:I’m going to let some of you in on a little secret I learned on realgm. If you don’t like a thread, not only do you not have to comment but you don’t even have to open it and read it. You’re welcome.
jayjaysee
King of the Trade Board
Posts: 20,733
And1: 7,726
Joined: Aug 05, 2012

Re: My Mavs offseason plan with UTA and ATL 

Post#9 » by jayjaysee » Mon Jun 2, 2025 1:34 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:Maybe I’m wrong, but I think Dallas sends Atlanta a second and gets 22 for Utah? Or maybe Utah sends the second to Atlanta? They have 43 and 53 this year and really shouldn’t stop a trade to include both..

So, valuation originally was #22 for Gafford + Marshall, but UTA has enough low end 1sts that I think 2nds are more useful, ATL doesn't have near term 2nds, all of them are far ahead, which fits UTA needs since they have lots of picks incoming near term, but yeah deal works with #22 also.


I think Utah adds to get a quarter versus taking a few more nickels considering how overstocked they are..

They don’t have a huge stockpile of 2nds, but realistically that would be easy to create as this season plays out? They should (sort of need to) trade some of their current roster guys, take on a small salary dump, etc.

Return to Trades and Transactions