Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap -- 1st page updated on July 1st

[Teffer10]

So you’re saying dump PJ?

Absolutely not. I think having PJ come off the bench will be a weapon. Obi Toppin played a key part with booting out the Knicks. I think it can work as long as he plays the same minutes as a starter. Just as long as he doesn't have an overly invested agent who wants him to earn $30M a year.

AD and Lively have not played 82 games as far as I can remember. I don't see them playing 82 games. PJ can help with that. With Herb, I think it's Gaff that gets sent out given that NOLA needs a center. They're not a free agent destination. Only way they can get talent is via trades.

AD closes games at center. PJ at PF and Flagg at SF looks nice. Playoff games become games of possessions where you need to convert baskets every possession, you take out the lobs and fancy passes, there are games where you grind out points for ugly wins. That lineup has that.

I'll be shocked if Flagg will have a meaningful role in the playoffs or if he'll be even finishing close games.

I wouldnt be shocked if Flagg has a major role on this team all year.

Looking down this roster I'm wondering where the offense is going to come from until/if Kyrie returns. And then there is AD and his injury issues.

Depending on moves made in the next few months, I'm not sure if Mavs will have a choice but count on Flagg to have a prominent role.

[Archx]

Absolutely not. I think having PJ come off the bench will be a weapon. Obi Toppin played a key part with booting out the Knicks. I think it can work as long as he plays the same minutes as a starter. Just as long as he doesn't have an overly invested agent who wants him to earn $30M a year.

AD and Lively have not played 82 games as far as I can remember. I don't see them playing 82 games. PJ can help with that. With Herb, I think it's Gaff that gets sent out given that NOLA needs a center. They're not a free agent destination. Only way they can get talent is via trades.

AD closes games at center. PJ at PF and Flagg at SF looks nice. Playoff games become games of possessions where you need to convert baskets every possession, you take out the lobs and fancy passes, there are games where you grind out points for ugly wins. That lineup has that.

I'll be shocked if Flagg will have a meaningful role in the playoffs or if he'll be even finishing close games.

I wouldnt be shocked if Flagg has a major role on this team all year.

Looking down this roster I'm wondering where the offense is going to come from until/if Kyrie returns. And then there is AD and his injury issues.

Depending on moves made in the next few months, I'm not sure if Mavs will have a choice but count on Flagg to have a prominent role.

Watching OKC defense bullying everyone then imagining an 18/19yo having a huge impact on offense is kinda unimaginable to me right now. But i guess we'll see when we get there

Again, i was strictly talking about playoffs. Because these type of players get usually drafted to lesser teams where they have like 30 win seasons. It's insane pressure to be nr1 pick and then expect to perform at the absolute peak level of competition.

[Maverick41]

DAL receives: KD + McBride + 1 FRP from NY + 1 FRP from PHX
NY receives: AD + Omax
PHX receives: KAT

DAL does the 2 timeline thing. Compete now, remain flexible and collect picks. McBride becomes the stopgap PG who also can play with Kyrie since he's a good defender. This team just fits better with Flagg while still accomplishing ownership and Nico's vision of competing now.

NY replaces KAT for a 2 way star in AD since they can't afford to have a negative defender with Brunson as seen by this recent series. The good news is that NY has the best medical staff to keep street clothes on the court. Replace KAT with a healthy AD and that team would have beat the Pacers.

PHX gets a star that is very good friends with their franchise guy in Booker. Keeps him happy and gets something good for KD before he leaves for nothing.

[Mr B]

Absolutely not. I think having PJ come off the bench will be a weapon. Obi Toppin played a key part with booting out the Knicks. I think it can work as long as he plays the same minutes as a starter. Just as long as he doesn't have an overly invested agent who wants him to earn $30M a year.

AD and Lively have not played 82 games as far as I can remember. I don't see them playing 82 games. PJ can help with that. With Herb, I think it's Gaff that gets sent out given that NOLA needs a center. They're not a free agent destination. Only way they can get talent is via trades.

AD closes games at center. PJ at PF and Flagg at SF looks nice. Playoff games become games of possessions where you need to convert baskets every possession, you take out the lobs and fancy passes, there are games where you grind out points for ugly wins. That lineup has that.

I'll be shocked if Flagg will have a meaningful role in the playoffs or if he'll be even finishing close games.

I wouldnt be shocked if Flagg has a major role on this team all year.

Looking down this roster I'm wondering where the offense is going to come from until/if Kyrie returns. And then there is AD and his injury issues.

Depending on moves made in the next few months, I'm not sure if Mavs will have a choice but count on Flagg to have a prominent role.

That’s what I’m thinking. Cooper Flagg is going to have an opportunity to showcase his offense but he has to have minutes.

[Mr B]

DAL receives: KD + McBride + 1 FRP from NY + 1 FRP from PHX
NY receives: AD + Omax
PHX receives: KAT

DAL does the 2 timeline thing. Compete now, remain flexible and collect picks. McBride becomes the stopgap PG who also can play with Kyrie since he's a good defender. This team just fits better with Flagg while still accomplishing ownership and Nico's vision of competing now.

NY replaces KAT for a 2 way star in AD since they can't afford to have a negative defender with Brunson as seen by this recent series. The good news is that NY has the best medical staff to keep street clothes on the court. Replace KAT with a healthy AD and that team would have beat the Pacers.

PHX gets a star that is very good friends with their franchise guy in Booker. Keeps him happy and gets something good for KD before he leaves for nothing.

Is Phoenix a 2nd apron team?

[Maverick41]

DAL receives: KD + McBride + 1 FRP from NY + 1 FRP from PHX
NY receives: AD + Omax
PHX receives: KAT

DAL does the 2 timeline thing. Compete now, remain flexible and collect picks. McBride becomes the stopgap PG who also can play with Kyrie since he's a good defender. This team just fits better with Flagg while still accomplishing ownership and Nico's vision of competing now.

NY replaces KAT for a 2 way star in AD since they can't afford to have a negative defender with Brunson as seen by this recent series. The good news is that NY has the best medical staff to keep street clothes on the court. Replace KAT with a healthy AD and that team would have beat the Pacers.

PHX gets a star that is very good friends with their franchise guy in Booker. Keeps him happy and gets something good for KD before he leaves for nothing.

Is Phoenix a 2nd apron team?

Yup. It works since KAT is paid a mil less then KD.

[daoneandonly]

DAL receives: KD + McBride + 1 FRP from NY + 1 FRP from PHX
NY receives: AD + Omax
PHX receives: KAT

DAL does the 2 timeline thing. Compete now, remain flexible and collect picks. McBride becomes the stopgap PG who also can play with Kyrie since he's a good defender. This team just fits better with Flagg while still accomplishing ownership and Nico's vision of competing now.

NY replaces KAT for a 2 way star in AD since they can't afford to have a negative defender with Brunson as seen by this recent series. The good news is that NY has the best medical staff to keep street clothes on the court. Replace KAT with a healthy AD and that team would have beat the Pacers.

PHX gets a star that is very good friends with their franchise guy in Booker. Keeps him happy and gets something good for KD before he leaves for nothing.

You should propose this on the T&T board, it's intriguing. The only way I'd want KD is for AD & picks

[Archx]

DAL receives: KD + McBride + 1 FRP from NY + 1 FRP from PHX
NY receives: AD + Omax
PHX receives: KAT

DAL does the 2 timeline thing. Compete now, remain flexible and collect picks. McBride becomes the stopgap PG who also can play with Kyrie since he's a good defender. This team just fits better with Flagg while still accomplishing ownership and Nico's vision of competing now.

NY replaces KAT for a 2 way star in AD since they can't afford to have a negative defender with Brunson as seen by this recent series. The good news is that NY has the best medical staff to keep street clothes on the court. Replace KAT with a healthy AD and that team would have beat the Pacers.

PHX gets a star that is very good friends with their franchise guy in Booker. Keeps him happy and gets something good for KD before he leaves for nothing.

You should propose this on the T&T board, it's intriguing. The only way I'd want KD is for AD & picks

Then you'll have KD/PJ/Christie/Naji all on wings... How do you develop Flagg? Some players would have to go and then you risk gutting a deep roster just to make space for Flagg?

AD at the center would be ideal but then Lively is the odd man out. I mean... a ton of options if you're building for the future, but not that many for the "win now culture".

These trades that make sense on paper make no sense in reality because we have to see first how they solve playmaking issue. They still have B.Will as an option... maybe develop him, sign CP3 and hold on to your assets. There is also still a Gafford trade in the air, so there is some room as well.

But KD for AD, from logical standpoint, is not it. On top of it, we know AD is Nico's guy, he's not trading him after what he just did few months ago lol.

[Darren]

I think Phoenix doesn't want to part with pick in rebuilding process. Other than that, it's pretty fine. Flagg is playing PF while PJ is playing SF. With KD expires, you can keep both PJ and Gafford. With 3 players on expiring contracts, everyone is more motivated to fight for something. Send Martin for Lonzo or sign CP3. That's immediately top team in the league unless SAS trade for Giannis.

[Michaellam1987]

DAL receives: KD + McBride + 1 FRP from NY + 1 FRP from PHX
NY receives: AD + Omax
PHX receives: KAT

DAL does the 2 timeline thing. Compete now, remain flexible and collect picks. McBride becomes the stopgap PG who also can play with Kyrie since he's a good defender. This team just fits better with Flagg while still accomplishing ownership and Nico's vision of competing now.

NY replaces KAT for a 2 way star in AD since they can't afford to have a negative defender with Brunson as seen by this recent series. The good news is that NY has the best medical staff to keep street clothes on the court. Replace KAT with a healthy AD and that team would have beat the Pacers.

PHX gets a star that is very good friends with their franchise guy in Booker. Keeps him happy and gets something good for KD before he leaves for nothing.

You should propose this on the T&T board, it's intriguing. The only way I'd want KD is for AD & picks

Then you'll have KD/PJ/Christie/Naji all on wings... How do you develop Flagg? Some players would have to go and then you risk gutting a deep roster just to make space for Flagg?

AD at the center would be ideal but then Lively is the odd man out. I mean... a ton of options if you're building for the future, but not that many for the "win now culture".

These trades that make sense on paper make no sense in reality because we have to see first how they solve playmaking issue. They still have B.Will as an option... maybe develop him, sign CP3 and hold on to your assets. There is also still a Gafford trade in the air, so there is some room as well.

But KD for AD, from logical standpoint, is not it. On top of it, we know AD is Nico's guy, he's not trading him after what he just did few months ago lol.

I think you guys are confused on the trade offer. PHX 2029 #1 is not belonging to PHX, tons of team are in the mix for the right for pick swap. So IMO, you can assume it will be a late first round pick. NYK pick will be a very distant one or actually untradeable yet, or if you are talking about that one from WAS, it has no value as it is lottery protected. Therefore, it is basically AD for KD + McBride + a late first, and it is a NO for me.

[Maverick41]

I think you guys are confused on the trade offer. PHX 2029 #1 is not belonging to PHX, tons of team are in the mix for the right for pick swap. So IMO, you can assume it will be a late first round pick. NYK pick will be a very distant one or actually untradeable yet, or if you are talking about that one from WAS, it has no value as it is lottery protected. Therefore, it is basically AD for KD + McBride + a late first, and it is a NO for me.

Thanks for clarifying. My understanding is that WAS pick from NY is now top 8 protected, not lottery protected. Still unlikely but top 14 vs top 8 is pretty big. To be honest, both NY and PHX's draft availability situation confuses me which is why I kept it general in my initial proposal in this thread.

I don't disagree that we are owed more. AD has the highest value in this trade proposal in general. If we can exact another pick or 2 from both, that would be my preference.

[Teffer10]

I'll be shocked if Flagg will have a meaningful role in the playoffs or if he'll be even finishing close games.

I wouldnt be shocked if Flagg has a major role on this team all year.

Looking down this roster I'm wondering where the offense is going to come from until/if Kyrie returns. And then there is AD and his injury issues.

Depending on moves made in the next few months, I'm not sure if Mavs will have a choice but count on Flagg to have a prominent role.

Watching OKC defense bullying everyone then imagining an 18/19yo having a huge impact on offense is kinda unimaginable to me right now. But i guess we'll see when we get there

Again, i was strictly talking about playoffs. Because these type of players get usually drafted to lesser teams where they have like 30 win seasons. It's insane pressure to be nr1 pick and then expect to perform at the absolute peak level of competition.

I hear ya man....OKC would have a field day baptizing Flagg into the league during a PO series.

I'm just saying Flagg could very easily be our 2nd best scorer by the middle of the season and Kidd wouldnt have a choice but to put him in that difficult situation.

[Teffer10]

I think you guys are confused on the trade offer. PHX 2029 #1 is not belonging to PHX, tons of team are in the mix for the right for pick swap. So IMO, you can assume it will be a late first round pick. NYK pick will be a very distant one or actually untradeable yet, or if you are talking about that one from WAS, it has no value as it is lottery protected. Therefore, it is basically AD for KD + McBride + a late first, and it is a NO for me.

Thanks for clarifying. My understanding is that WAS pick from NY is now top 8 protected, not lottery protected. Still unlikely but top 14 vs top 8 is pretty big. To be honest, both NY and PHX's draft availability situation confuses me which is why I kept it general in my initial proposal in this thread.

I don't disagree that we are owed more. AD has the highest value in this trade proposal in general. If we can exact another pick or 2 from both, that would be my preference.

I guess I'm vastly under valuing AD because he isnt worth 57+mil we owe him over the next few years. Hell, I'm close to putting him in the KP category when it comes to reliability.

And to think we will be relying on him to be our offensive catalist going into next season should make every Mavs fan cringe.

We should get what we can while we can before we end up having to resort to Dinwiddie/Bertan Davis type moves and include picks just to get rid of him.

[Maverick41]

I guess I'm vastly under valuing AD because he isnt worth 57+mil we owe him over the next few years. Hell, I'm close to putting him in the KP category when it comes to reliability.

And to think we will be relying on him to be our offensive catalist going into next season should make every Mavs fan cringe.

We should get what we can while we can before we end up having to resort to Dinwiddie/Bertan Davis type moves and include picks just to get rid of him.

Yup, my worry is that AD is an injury away from everyone in the league not wanting to touch that contract. While he's still a star player, he's clearly lost a step, somehow gotten worse as a shooter and is going to be 33 in March of next year. With Kyrie out, he's gonna try and prove people wrong and that can be good but can also be bad. We have no idea what this new medical staff is gonna be like and I just can't be confident they'll be better with Nico at the helm making these hiring decisions.

One of my biggest fears is Nico giving AD a long extension, he gets hurt (either big or continued nagging injuries) and we're screwed at building a good team around Flagg because we're stuck with the contract. Imo AD isn't just chummy with Nico because they're friends but because he knows he's the guy that's gonna give him that last big payday.

[41Dirk41]

AD is one injury to be next KP for us... And i don't think Dinwiddie and Bertans will be good pieces along Flagg hahahahaha

[Michaellam1987]

I think you guys are confused on the trade offer. PHX 2029 #1 is not belonging to PHX, tons of team are in the mix for the right for pick swap. So IMO, you can assume it will be a late first round pick. NYK pick will be a very distant one or actually untradeable yet, or if you are talking about that one from WAS, it has no value as it is lottery protected. Therefore, it is basically AD for KD + McBride + a late first, and it is a NO for me.

Thanks for clarifying. My understanding is that WAS pick from NY is now top 8 protected, not lottery protected. Still unlikely but top 14 vs top 8 is pretty big. To be honest, both NY and PHX's draft availability situation confuses me which is why I kept it general in my initial proposal in this thread.

I don't disagree that we are owed more. AD has the highest value in this trade proposal in general. If we can exact another pick or 2 from both, that would be my preference.

I guess I'm vastly under valuing AD because he isnt worth 57+mil we owe him over the next few years. Hell, I'm close to putting him in the KP category when it comes to reliability.

And to think we will be relying on him to be our offensive catalist going into next season should make every Mavs fan cringe.

We should get what we can while we can before we end up having to resort to Dinwiddie/Bertan Davis type moves and include picks just to get rid of him.

If that is the return for AD, I would rather hold on to him first, or later on talk to the teams that miss out for the Giannis trade, e.g. HOU/SAS

[Michaellam1987]

I think you guys are confused on the trade offer. PHX 2029 #1 is not belonging to PHX, tons of team are in the mix for the right for pick swap. So IMO, you can assume it will be a late first round pick. NYK pick will be a very distant one or actually untradeable yet, or if you are talking about that one from WAS, it has no value as it is lottery protected. Therefore, it is basically AD for KD + McBride + a late first, and it is a NO for me.

Thanks for clarifying. My understanding is that WAS pick from NY is now top 8 protected, not lottery protected. Still unlikely but top 14 vs top 8 is pretty big. To be honest, both NY and PHX's draft availability situation confuses me which is why I kept it general in my initial proposal in this thread.

I don't disagree that we are owed more. AD has the highest value in this trade proposal in general. If we can exact another pick or 2 from both, that would be my preference.

yes, you are right, it is top 8 protected, but IMO, WAS will be 1 of the dead last team again, don't think its pick will drop beyond top 8.

[Mavrelous]

Here is my offseason plan on the T&T
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2461710
Dump Gafford and Marshall to gain cap flexibility, add CP3 and Sexton.
I didn't want to dump them, I prefered to send picks, but there really are no minutes, and it's unfair to keep them w/o real shot at playing.

[daoneandonly]

DAL receives: KD + McBride + 1 FRP from NY + 1 FRP from PHX
NY receives: AD + Omax
PHX receives: KAT

DAL does the 2 timeline thing. Compete now, remain flexible and collect picks. McBride becomes the stopgap PG who also can play with Kyrie since he's a good defender. This team just fits better with Flagg while still accomplishing ownership and Nico's vision of competing now.

NY replaces KAT for a 2 way star in AD since they can't afford to have a negative defender with Brunson as seen by this recent series. The good news is that NY has the best medical staff to keep street clothes on the court. Replace KAT with a healthy AD and that team would have beat the Pacers.

PHX gets a star that is very good friends with their franchise guy in Booker. Keeps him happy and gets something good for KD before he leaves for nothing.

You should propose this on the T&T board, it's intriguing. The only way I'd want KD is for AD & picks

Then you'll have KD/PJ/Christie/Naji all on wings... How do you develop Flagg? Some players would have to go and then you risk gutting a deep roster just to make space for Flagg?

AD at the center would be ideal but then Lively is the odd man out. I mean... a ton of options if you're building for the future, but not that many for the "win now culture".

These trades that make sense on paper make no sense in reality because we have to see first how they solve playmaking issue. They still have B.Will as an option... maybe develop him, sign CP3 and hold on to your assets. There is also still a Gafford trade in the air, so there is some room as well.

But KD for AD, from logical standpoint, is not it. On top of it, we know AD is Nico's guy, he's not trading him after what he just did few months ago lol.

Oh I dont want KD, at all, I just want AD gone and the picks. Then forward KD elsewhere for more picks and/or a young guy who fits with Flagg. But the goal is dump AD before he misses 34 games for an itchy chin

[Darren]

I'd explore AD and a pick for LaMelo Ball. I think it's better to have 3 playmakers on court together. The spacing is not too good with both AD and Lively. The initial lineup is strong as hell. defensively But I don't think is too good to slide Flagg to SF spot offensively. I don't think the two line approach works too beautifully. Unless you have Flagg playing 2 or 1, the current lineup doesn't work too well. Flagg scored a lot in midrange and the paint.