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Re: Picks 33 and 34 Prospect Discussion 

Post#61 » by Diop » Fri May 30, 2025 5:51 am

Dink Pate is a good name, that could be a good fall back after Yang.

Or why not both?

Yang and Dink to the rescue!
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Re: Picks 33 and 34 Prospect Discussion 

Post#62 » by JMAC3 » Fri May 30, 2025 12:11 pm

Diop wrote:Dink Pate is a good name, that could be a good fall back after Yang.

Or why not both?

Yang and Dink to the rescue!


I do like Dink some, 6-8 point guard with some defensive upside. Ultimately maybe be best if he moves to the wing and gives you plus defense and plus playmaking from that spot. I think his downside is pretty high though as a young player who has been floating around the Gleague for some time.
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Re: Picks 33 and 34 Prospect Discussion 

Post#63 » by Diop » Fri May 30, 2025 12:30 pm

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Diop wrote:Dink Pate is a good name, that could be a good fall back after Yang.

Or why not both?

Yang and Dink to the rescue!


I do like Dink some, 6-8 point guard with some defensive upside. Ultimately maybe be best if he moves to the wing and gives you plus defense and plus playmaking from that spot. I think his downside is pretty high though as a young player who has been floating around the Gleague for some time.

I don't hate using a second on guys like that though, or if he doesn't get drafted bring him in like Caleb martin
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Re: Picks 33 and 34 Prospect Discussion 

Post#64 » by fatlever » Fri May 30, 2025 9:49 pm

the silver lining with this push of nil guys going back to school - we will have additional mid to late 1sts over next few years. when they do come out, they will be closer to league ready from the jump.
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Re: Picks 33 and 34 Prospect Discussion 

Post#65 » by Snidely FC » Sun Jun 1, 2025 7:58 pm

I saw a mock done by AI that had Tamar Bates to OKC at pick 24. Hmm never heard of him.

Tamar Bates is 6’5 Sr from Missouri who shot 39.7% from 3 and 94% ft this yr.

He performed so well at Portsmouth he was invited to Gleague where he earned a call up to the NBA combine and is now seen as one of the pre-draft fastest risers. “OKC style” player moving up charts after NIL pullouts
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Re: Picks 33 and 34 Prospect Discussion 

Post#66 » by Bassman » Sun Jun 1, 2025 9:38 pm

Snidely FC wrote:I saw a mock done by AI that had Tamar Bates to OKC at pick 24. Hmm never heard of him.

Tamar Bates is 6’5 Sr from Missouri who shot 39.7% from 3 and 94% ft this yr.

He performed so well at Portsmouth he was invited to Gleague where he earned a call up to the NBA combine and is now seen as one of the pre-draft fastest risers. “OKC style” player moving up charts after NIL pullouts.


I watched almost every Mizzou basketball game. We live in MO and our son is a grad. Bates was a transfer starter who played very well. Smart, nice shot, can drive with a good handle. He wasn’t always “THE MAN” as their system is based on ball movement, screens. Bates is OK on ISO’s but likely won’t beat top NBA defenders. He’s a good defender, good speed, really the kind of role player that makes OKC good. Would I trade our two picks into the first to get him? I would trade up but targeting one of the bigs. Second round, if we select Ace, then yes he’d be a quality option for the Hornets.
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Re: Picks 33 and 34 Prospect Discussion 

Post#67 » by fatlever » Sun Jun 1, 2025 10:42 pm

fatlever wrote:whats the deal with kobe brea? keep hearing he is the best shooter in the draft? is he unplayable otherwise? could he be that random sniper that teams like miami always throw in the game vs us for 8 minutes while they go 4 of 5 from 3 then disappear back to the bench?
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Post#68 » by EmpireFalls » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:42 am

fatlever wrote:
fatlever wrote:whats the deal with kobe brea? keep hearing he is the best shooter in the draft? is he unplayable otherwise? could he be that random sniper that teams like miami always throw in the game vs us for 8 minutes while they go 4 of 5 from 3 then disappear back to the bench?
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He doesn’t have anything to his game other than the shot, sort of like a taller Seth Curry, but he could be useful regardless.
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Re: Picks 33 and 34 Prospect Discussion 

Post#69 » by JMAC3 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 2:24 pm

fatlever wrote:
fatlever wrote:whats the deal with kobe brea? keep hearing he is the best shooter in the draft? is he unplayable otherwise? could he be that random sniper that teams like miami always throw in the game vs us for 8 minutes while they go 4 of 5 from 3 then disappear back to the bench?
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He will be drafted, but he is older and the combine was pretty bad. Negative wingspan and tested really bad in all the speed and quickness drills.
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Re: Picks 33 and 34 Prospect Discussion 

Post#70 » by fatlever » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:22 pm

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fatlever wrote:
fatlever wrote:whats the deal with kobe brea? keep hearing he is the best shooter in the draft? is he unplayable otherwise? could he be that random sniper that teams like miami always throw in the game vs us for 8 minutes while they go 4 of 5 from 3 then disappear back to the bench?
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He will be drafted, but he is older and the combine was pretty bad. Negative wingspan and tested really bad in all the speed and quickness drills.


seen him as high as 22 - cant remember where, maybe one of the no ceilings guys? - and as low as 58 - cbs
most have him mid 30s to early 40s
if lee/jpete looking to model boston, this might be your hauser
seems to be adequate team defender despite lack of quickness
but elite valuable skill from day 1. not exciting pick, but might be better than looking for high upside with depth depleted in 2nd rd. just a thought
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Re: Picks 33 and 34 Prospect Discussion 

Post#71 » by fatlever » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:28 pm

https://www.rookiescale.com/2025-consensus-board/

consensus big board as of 5/28/25

"Input sources include ESPN, The Athletic, Bleacher Report, Sports Illustrated, Yahoo, The Ringer, Tankathon, For the Win, CBS, No Ceilings, NBA Big Board, Swish Theory, Babock Hoops, SBN, and dozens of other independent boards/mocks."
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Re: Picks 33 and 34 Prospect Discussion 

Post#72 » by Diop » Tue Jun 3, 2025 12:46 am

JMAC3 wrote:
fatlever wrote:
fatlever wrote:whats the deal with kobe brea? keep hearing he is the best shooter in the draft? is he unplayable otherwise? could he be that random sniper that teams like miami always throw in the game vs us for 8 minutes while they go 4 of 5 from 3 then disappear back to the bench?
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He will be drafted, but he is older and the combine was pretty bad. Negative wingspan and tested really bad in all the speed and quickness drills.

a better version of LilAngelo Ball?
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Post#73 » by wilson115 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 1:01 am

Brea can really shoot but can't spend picks on one-dimensional players after this playoffs

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Re: Picks 33 and 34 Prospect Discussion 

Post#74 » by Diop » Tue Jun 3, 2025 2:24 am

my favourite Aussie pick in the 2nd round now Condon is out.

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/2025-nba-draft-editors-notes-volume-e76
Tyrese Proctor
It wouldn’t be too difficult to argue that nobody has boosted their draft stock more in the tournament to this point than Tyrese Proctor. The Duke junior has been absolutely torching the nets in the tournament so far, knocking down 13-of-16 three-pointers through Duke’s first two games.

I’ve written about Tyrese Proctor before in a previous edition of Editor’s Notes, and it’s been fascinating to me to follow his evolution as a player since then. He’s continued his upward trajectory as a jump shooter, ranking in the 94th percentile on jump shots per Synergy, and he’s mostly maintained the steps forward he took as a finisher (shooting 51% inside the arc this season after finishing last season at 52% on two-pointers). The shot, once a swing skill for Proctor, has become his main selling point:



Interestingly enough, though, Proctor has stepped into more of an off-ball role this season despite his passing chops being the main selling point of his prospect hype heading into his college career. After Proctor led Duke in assists in each of his first two seasons, it seemed like all but a given to me that he would be Duke’s primary point guard in Year Three. Instead, Proctor took a backseat to Duke’s star freshmen Cooper Flagg and Kon Knueppel in that department—Proctor finished fourth on the team in assists behind those two and Tulane transfer Sion James.

It’s not like Proctor’s passing abandoned him by any means. He still finished the year with an assist-to-turnover ratio of 2.2, and he can still sling the ball all over the court when it comes his way. Proctor’s offensive growth outside of his point guard skills, though, makes him an easier fit. With his size at 6’5”, Proctor was always big enough to play at either guard spot. Now, though, he has the complementary offensive game to match. He might not reach the heights of his pre-college lottery projections, but his game now is more versatile than it has ever been before. If he plays at even an average level for the rest of the tournament, he will get looks in the 2025 NBA Draft. If he maintains a little heat after the first two rounds, though, Tyrese Proctor could be the next prospect in a long line of players to ride a March Madness hot streak into the first round of the draft.


I love what I see from this kid. He reminds me of something Grayson Allen said a couple of media days ago, how during his four years at Duke, he played four different roles. That kind of experience breeds versatility, the kind that prepares you for the NBA. Tyrese Proctor, who stands nearly 6’6”, fits that mold to a T.

He spent three years at Duke and served as the team’s primary facilitator during his first two seasons, leading the Blue Devils in assists both years. But everything shifted this past season. With the arrival of 6’7” freshman phenom Kon Knueppel, a surefire lottery pick, and the looming presence of Cooper Flagg, Proctor had to reinvent himself. And he did.

Playing alongside future NBA stars, he still managed to finish third on the team in scoring. He attempted more threes than anyone on the roster — 5.8 per game — and knocked them down at a 40.5% clip. That’s not just efficient. That’s dangerous.

This is someone who has played in high-stakes moments. Someone who can facilitate. Someone who can score. And his jumper? Smooth. Pure. Repeatable.

More importantly, he’s shown he can adjust and adapt his game based on what the team needs. If we’re talking about fit relative to what the Suns need? He checks a lot of boxes. A combo guard with size, athleticism, and a killer jumper who can come off the bench and make an impact.
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Re: Picks 33 and 34 Prospect Discussion 

Post#75 » by Chapelchilla » Tue Jun 3, 2025 4:25 pm

Diop wrote:my favourite Aussie pick in the 2nd round now Condon is out.

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/2025-nba-draft-editors-notes-volume-e76
Tyrese Proctor
It wouldn’t be too difficult to argue that nobody has boosted their draft stock more in the tournament to this point than Tyrese Proctor. The Duke junior has been absolutely torching the nets in the tournament so far, knocking down 13-of-16 three-pointers through Duke’s first two games.

I’ve written about Tyrese Proctor before in a previous edition of Editor’s Notes, and it’s been fascinating to me to follow his evolution as a player since then. He’s continued his upward trajectory as a jump shooter, ranking in the 94th percentile on jump shots per Synergy, and he’s mostly maintained the steps forward he took as a finisher (shooting 51% inside the arc this season after finishing last season at 52% on two-pointers). The shot, once a swing skill for Proctor, has become his main selling point:



Interestingly enough, though, Proctor has stepped into more of an off-ball role this season despite his passing chops being the main selling point of his prospect hype heading into his college career. After Proctor led Duke in assists in each of his first two seasons, it seemed like all but a given to me that he would be Duke’s primary point guard in Year Three. Instead, Proctor took a backseat to Duke’s star freshmen Cooper Flagg and Kon Knueppel in that department—Proctor finished fourth on the team in assists behind those two and Tulane transfer Sion James.

It’s not like Proctor’s passing abandoned him by any means. He still finished the year with an assist-to-turnover ratio of 2.2, and he can still sling the ball all over the court when it comes his way. Proctor’s offensive growth outside of his point guard skills, though, makes him an easier fit. With his size at 6’5”, Proctor was always big enough to play at either guard spot. Now, though, he has the complementary offensive game to match. He might not reach the heights of his pre-college lottery projections, but his game now is more versatile than it has ever been before. If he plays at even an average level for the rest of the tournament, he will get looks in the 2025 NBA Draft. If he maintains a little heat after the first two rounds, though, Tyrese Proctor could be the next prospect in a long line of players to ride a March Madness hot streak into the first round of the draft.


I love what I see from this kid. He reminds me of something Grayson Allen said a couple of media days ago, how during his four years at Duke, he played four different roles. That kind of experience breeds versatility, the kind that prepares you for the NBA. Tyrese Proctor, who stands nearly 6’6”, fits that mold to a T.

He spent three years at Duke and served as the team’s primary facilitator during his first two seasons, leading the Blue Devils in assists both years. But everything shifted this past season. With the arrival of 6’7” freshman phenom Kon Knueppel, a surefire lottery pick, and the looming presence of Cooper Flagg, Proctor had to reinvent himself. And he did.

Playing alongside future NBA stars, he still managed to finish third on the team in scoring. He attempted more threes than anyone on the roster — 5.8 per game — and knocked them down at a 40.5% clip. That’s not just efficient. That’s dangerous.

This is someone who has played in high-stakes moments. Someone who can facilitate. Someone who can score. And his jumper? Smooth. Pure. Repeatable.

More importantly, he’s shown he can adjust and adapt his game based on what the team needs. If we’re talking about fit relative to what the Suns need? He checks a lot of boxes. A combo guard with size, athleticism, and a killer jumper who can come off the bench and make an impact.


I think him and a big (yang?) would be good gets in the second. Fills role as a plus back up pt or sg.
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Post#76 » by JMAC3 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 4:27 pm

Proctor couldn't even play point guard in college, he is more a Seth Curry type of player in the NBA. Small 2 who will shoot it really well, I don't think I have a ton of interest in him for Charlotte.
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Post#77 » by Chapelchilla » Tue Jun 3, 2025 5:26 pm

Proctor is 6'5" and was the main pg at Duke last season. This year he played more of a combo (and shot well) as Kon and Flagg are point forwards and needed the ball. Proctor can be a nice rotation dude at pt or sg in the nba.
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Post#78 » by JMAC3 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 5:38 pm

Chapelchilla wrote:Proctor is 6'5" and was the main pg at Duke last season. This year he played more of a combo (and shot well) as Kon and Flagg are point forwards and needed the ball. Proctor can be a nice rotation dude at pt or sg in the nba.


Sion James was the point guard after Flagg/Kon. Even Caleb Foster played more point guard than Proctor did this year, no team should be drafting Proctor to play point guard. Averaged 2.2 apg this year on the best offense in the country.
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Post#79 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Jun 3, 2025 6:05 pm

Proctor will be perfectly fine as a combo guard at the next level. Won’t ever be a pure PG, though. If you’re looking for a superstar that’s not him. If you’re looking for a solid roleplayer who will carve out a niche in the league that is him. Also came to Duke a year early and should only be finishing up his sophomore year. But yeah Sion did play more minutes at point guard than Proctor. Size is definitely not an issue.
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Post#80 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Jun 3, 2025 6:10 pm

I think he will land more in the 40 to 45 range.
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