ESPN: Potential trade offers for Flagg

Dan Z · Post #1 » by **Dan Z** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:46 pm

Haha!

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45425353/potential-trades-top-2025-nba-draft-pick-cooper-flagg-dallas-mavericks

adubmac · Post #2 » by **adubmac** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:52 pm

Personally, I would do the Spurs deal.

Dan Z · Post #3 » by **Dan Z** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:55 pm

adubmac wrote:Personally, I would do the Spurs deal.

You're probably higher on Harper than I am.

The trade offers mentioned in this article aren't terrible, but I don't think the Mavs will trade Flagg nor do I think Cleveland will trade Mitchell or Phoenix will trade Booker.

The Master · Post #4 » by **The Master** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 10:58 pm

The only option that makes sense for Mavs is Giannis. You either go with a super team-super team, or you're happy with your long-term future with Flagg. If Kyrie hadn't gotten injured, maybe Mavs would've explored the first option, but right now I doubt it.

SkyBill40 · Post #5 » by **SkyBill40** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:12 pm

Dan Z wrote:
adubmac wrote:Personally, I would do the Spurs deal.

You're probably higher on Harper than I am.

The trade offers mentioned in this article aren't terrible, but I don't think the Mavs will trade Flagg nor do I think Cleveland will trade Mitchell or Phoenix will trade Booker.

Given the fact that Ishbia has made it abundantly clear he's not an option in addition to involving him in the existing search for a coach, ESPN is just spitballing even if it has some semblance of realism attached to it. We're not going to get anywhere close to being back in the playoff hunt unless we rebuild and Booker is honestly the only piece teams would want and the only one that's going to net us a healthy return. I'd hate to see him go, but I do understand it's a business and nothing is guaranteed. I'm sure Booker is fully aware of that, too.

MrBigShot · Post #6 » by **MrBigShot** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:14 pm

Those trades all suck. Unless you are getting one of the top 3-4 guys in the nba back it makes zero sense to trade the pick.

jkvonny · Post #7 » by **jkvonny** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:16 pm

Other than '93 when the Orlando Magic traded Chris Webber to GSW for Penny Hardaway and a handful of future draft picks. When were the other occassions that the overall #1 pick was traded? I can't recall.

That would be very interesting if Dallas does facilitate a trade, though.

MrBigShot · Post #8 » by **MrBigShot** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:18 pm

jkvonny wrote:Other than '93 when the Orlando Magic traded Chris Webber to GSW for Penny Hardaway and a handful of future draft picks. When were the other occassions that the overall #1 pick was traded? I can't recall.

That would be very interesting if Dallas does facilitate a trade, though.

Wiggins for KLove comes to mind

The wiggins hype coming out of HS/college was huge, but obviously it worked out very well for cleveland.

jkvonny · Post #9 » by **jkvonny** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:20 pm

MrBigShot wrote:
jkvonny wrote:Other than '93 when the Orlando Magic traded Chris Webber to GSW for Penny Hardaway and a handful of future draft picks. When were the other occassions that the overall #1 pick was traded? I can't recall.

That would be very interesting if Dallas does facilitate a trade, though.

Wiggins for KLove comes to mind

The wiggins hype coming out of HS/college was huge, but obviously it worked out very well for cleveland.

Ah! You're right. Completely forgotten about that one.
Lol

Wiggins kinda flamed out too while at Minny. But did win ROY. NBA champ too later on with GSW.

Cavs obviously did well with KL. NBA championship too

SkyBill40 · Post #10 » by **SkyBill40** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:20 pm

jkvonny wrote:Other than '93 when the Orlando Magic traded Chris Webber to GSW for Penny Hardaway and a handful of future draft picks. When were the other occassions that the overall #1 pick was traded? I can't recall.

That would be very interesting if Dallas does facilitate a trade, though.

Traded ON draft night? Probably not since that move or Wiggins in '14 (at least that is what my memory tells me). Moving him after? Yeah, it's happened before but not necessarily right away or very often. Number one overall picks have been traded only 11 times since the draft order was put in place.

Bobbymcgee · Post #11 » by **Bobbymcgee** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:22 pm

I would totally trade Flagg for either Mitchell or Booker.

Dan Z · Post #12 » by **Dan Z** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:22 pm

jkvonny wrote:Other than '93 when the Orlando Magic traded Chris Webber to GSW for Penny Hardaway and a handful of future draft picks. When were the other occassions that the overall #1 pick was traded? I can't recall.

That would be very interesting if Dallas does facilitate a trade, though.

In 2017 the Celtics traded the #1 pick (Fultz) to Philly for the #3 pick (Tatum) and a future first round pick.

jkvonny · Post #13 » by **jkvonny** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:23 pm

Dan Z wrote:
jkvonny wrote:Other than '93 when the Orlando Magic traded Chris Webber to GSW for Penny Hardaway and a handful of future draft picks. When were the other occassions that the overall #1 pick was traded? I can't recall.

That would be very interesting if Dallas does facilitate a trade, though.

In 2017 the Celtics traded the #1 pick (Fultz) to Philly for the #3 pick (Tatum) and a future first round pick.

Ha! That one too.

Thanks.

jkvonny · Post #14 » by **jkvonny** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:24 pm

SkyBill40 wrote:
jkvonny wrote:Other than '93 when the Orlando Magic traded Chris Webber to GSW for Penny Hardaway and a handful of future draft picks. When were the other occassions that the overall #1 pick was traded? I can't recall.

That would be very interesting if Dallas does facilitate a trade, though.

Traded ON draft night? Probably not since that move or Wiggins in '14 (at least that is what my memory tells me). Moving him after? Yeah, it's happened before but not necessarily right away or very often. Number one overall picks have been traded only 11 times since the draft order was put in place.

Ha, true!

Thanks for this. Good overall information.

Yes, I meant on draft night. On original question. But the rest of your post is cool, informative as well.

Charlie Sollers · Post #15 » by **Charlie Sollers** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:28 pm

MrBigShot wrote:Those trades all suck. Unless you are getting one of the top 3-4 guys in the nba back it makes zero sense to trade the pick.

I think the NBA is putting feelers out to see what the fans want and then make the trade on draft night.

ACMFFL · Post #16 » by **ACMFFL** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:29 pm

It's not worth the candle for the Mavs to move Flagg for any superstar, they would lose a lot of depth, they better off trying to compete with his cost controlled contract on the book than turning into a slightly better version of the actual Suns.

Giannis is the only superstar worth Flagg+ who might be available this summer and I still would NOT do it.
Not a chance I'd give up #1 for Booker, Mitchell, Brown et similia.

Bornstellar · Post #17 » by **Bornstellar** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:30 pm

I would've said no way that Dallas trades the #1 pick but after they traded Luka for AD and scraps I'm not so sure anymore. I'm fairly confident they'll keep the pick and take Flagg. But it also wouldn't entirely shock me if Nico thought Harper was a better fit and their lead guard of the future

Post #18 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:31 pm

If I was Dallas, there would only be 2 options I would be looking for (not including unreal fantasy trades like getting Jokic).

1. The Bucks with Giannis. If Giannis tells the Bucks its officially over and he wants out. I would kick the tires if I was Dallas on that. Giannis is 30, to go with AD being 32 and Kyrie being 33. Age wise they fit, defensively the AD/Giannis paring would be a blast to watch. And once Kyrie gets healthy, that would be a very scary team in the playoffs.

2. The Spurs. I say this because they have the #2 pick and I would basically demand the world for the pick and see if the Spurs might be interested. And if I were the Spurs, I would definitely at least think about offering everything you can not named Wemby. Obviously I would try and keep Castle, but I wouldnt let that be a sticking point. Id give up a ton if I were the Spurs to have a young core of Wemby/Flagg to build around going forward.

Cavsfansince84 · Post #19 » by **Cavsfansince84** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:37 pm

I'd keep Flagg over any of the guys over age 27 for sure. If anything, he is the face of your franchise for 20 years barring injuries and gives you someone who can be the centerpiece of a contending team for like 12-15 years. Which is on top of the situation they already with him being able to be more of a complimentary piece for the first few years since they already have AD+Kyrie. It's a perfect situation for him. The whole idea of trading him is insane for anyone other than Wemby or SGA(which Okc isn't doing).

ACMFFL · Post #20 » by **ACMFFL** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 11:39 pm

If we still had Luka instead of AD, I'd trade Flagg+ for Giannis without even thinking twice. But at this juncture it doesn't make sense, Mavs have to renounce all their depth to match GA contract and then they are left with: AD/GA/Martin/Christie/no starting level PG until January, no depth off the bench, this team aint going anywhere in the stacked West.

AD is the one who has to go asap, Mavs should rebuild around Flagg.