Is the NBA both a rigged league and about to have Oklahoma and Indiana play in the NBA finals?

[SOUL]

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[NZB2323]

What is the difference between saying “the NBA might be rigged,” and “The Aliens might have built the pyramids?”

Why would the NBA hire Ernst & Young to oversee the draft process to show it’s transparent and fair for a draft that they rig? If they rig the league, why are we having OKC vs. Indy? If they rigged the lottery for the Knicks to get Ewing, why not Melo? For a league that has been rigging things for 40 years, why haven’t we heard any leaks from anyone?

There is as much evidence that the NBA is rigged as you’d find in an episode of ancient aliens.

If the conspiracy theory is correct, the NBA has acheived a level of secrecy that even the CIA or La Cosa Nostra failed to achieve. The NBA conspirators leak nothing while CIA operations, Mob activity regularly makes the paper.

except they haven't since we're literally discussing it now, refs and players have been busted for cheating and it's an inside joke amongst the players that the draft has been rigged since 1985

Refs and players have been busted for gambling. Where is the source that the league is fixed? Lebron speculating on a podcast doesn’t count as a source, just like how Ancient Aliens says “Maybe aliens?” Doesn’t count as a source.

[NZB2323]

Suggesting that any business might do extraneous things to further its interests isn’t that wild. It’s not like they owe us a fair sports experience. They’re an entertainment product. They can do whatever they want. Sure, it could all be clean fun, but with that much money to be made I sincerely doubt there’s nothing to it.

What is the difference between saying “the NBA might be rigged,” and “The Aliens might have built the pyramids?”

Why would the NBA hire Ernst & Young to oversee the draft process to show it’s transparent and fair for a draft that they rig? If they rig the league, why are we having OKC vs. Indy? If they rigged the lottery for the Knicks to get Ewing, why not Melo? For a league that has been rigging things for 40 years, why haven’t we heard any leaks from anyone?

There is as much evidence that the NBA is rigged as you’d find in an episode of ancient aliens.

You act like you have all of the facts. You don’t. None of us do. You can’t put a few specific things together and claim that I’m stupid because of it. Maybe you’re just naïve.

We don’t know, so maybe aliens?

[nikster]

Suggesting that any business might do extraneous things to further its interests isn’t that wild. It’s not like they owe us a fair sports experience. They’re an entertainment product. They can do whatever they want. Sure, it could all be clean fun, but with that much money to be made I sincerely doubt there’s nothing to it.

If the 2025 lottery was fixed, why did the Jazz tank?

I genuinely don’t have answers because I can’t. I’m just speculating. Based off of how I’ve seen the world function this seems like something that wouldn’t surprise me. In fact I would be pleasantly surprised if things were straight down the middle. With how fat their profit margins are though I sincerely doubt they care about their consumers.

But what are you really speculating about? Conspiracy theorists say stuff they are "just asking questions" but the speculation stops at the idea that a conspiracy may be possible. No actual digging to get more information. 3 decades of the draft and not a single shred of evidence, or a cohesive narrative for how or why or when this is done, whos in charge etc..

Like you said you base this idea off your world view, you don't need any evidence to support it. The vague idea of a conspiracy is enough for you to belive it is likely, but brush it off as just "speculating" when asked for some supporting arguments

[New_Hawks_Era]

After the Luka and #1 draft pick situation, every other fan was saying the NBA rigs things to benefit the league. If that’s the case, you’d probably wager they’d prefer the Knicks or a team with a major superstar, rather than two small market, middle-America teams playing in their ultimate showcase.

People who say things are rigged are usually fans of teams that are unlucky or never succeed, it's a jaded fan cop out

[New_Hawks_Era]

in addition to what everyone else said, making sga a star is the nba's biggest priority, so yes they want okc in the finals

But you can do this with any team, insert Minnesota-Ant-Man or whoever is the top player on said team and the NBA biggest priority is getting Boston and the Lakers to the Finals every year if they could

[New_Hawks_Era]

The league is obviously not rigged lol

No idea why half you lot even watch sports if you think it’s rigged. Delusional

More like a bunch of jaded fans of teams who didn't get the pick they wanted or who always end up with the short end of the stick so they cope by making up conspiracy crap

[New_Hawks_Era]

Imagine having 2 of the smallest markets in the Finals and still believing the playoffs are rigged.

The draft though, way too much evidence. No defending all 3 teams with the highest odds dropping down. That is so statistically improbable, its absurd to think it wasn't. Especially with Dallas getting the pick.

You would have a lot more valid point if it literally didn't just happen last year, it was no basis or emphasis to rig it for the Hawks. Sometimes **** just happens that can't be explained. Risascher is not Flagg, I know that but he isn't a scrub either.

[New_Hawks_Era]

People who think the NBA is rigged are worse than people who think the Royal Rumble is rigged. You're telling me 30 different entities conspire for the benefit of the organization as a whole? And nothing leaks out? Please. What does Sheamus stand to gain from doing that?

Wrestling is different to me, it's individuals like boxing right? There aren't teams

[New_Hawks_Era]

why do you think there are only 2 scenarios: 0 (means no rigging at all) and 10 (means rigging all the time)? there are lot of numbers in between 0 and 10. By default NBA does not rig; but in some special cases, it does like the Luka situation where Mavs were compensated later by getting the #1 draft pick. This is not a new thing; it has happened before and will continue to happen as long as fans does not unite and campaign against this practice and demand NBA to be totally fair.

So the league/Mavs decided to injure AD in the first game for Mavs and then to tear ACL of Kyrie? Because this is why they got 1st draft pick in the first place. And yet they were a game away from making the playoffs.

Yeah, we have the biggest parity ever in the history of the NBA, both in terms of number of teams winning titles (7 in the last 7 years) as well as non-big market teams winning titles regularly (Cleveland, Toronto*, Bucks, Nuggets, OKC/Indiana - none of these teams is in top10 of organization value estimations).

If the league is rigged, the NBA is doing an amazing job.

if you continue to want to live in a fool's paradise, it is your choice; we simply cannot teach intelligence

The smartest ones know they know nothing at all, you're the one that might need to look around and make sure you're not the fool living in said residence

[New_Hawks_Era]

You have provided no evidence that you’re not a pedo.

I have done nothing suspicious.

Police put ppl on a suspect list all the time without evidence. Usually an investigation is done after that.

Equating this to an individual accusation, also another idiotic tactic.

“I have done nothing suspicious,” is what a guilty person would say.

Where is the evidence that the league has done something suspicious?

Nelson Mandela was on the terrorist watch list until 2008. The FBI was monitoring MLK. Thinking someone is suspicious is just gossip. Where is the proof that Lady Gaga isn’t a man? Where is the proof that Lebron James isn’t an alien? Where is the proof that Presti isn’t a time traveler? Where is the proof that Jokic isn’t a robot? Where is the proof that the Thunder don’t have gay orgies with each other in the showers after victories? Where is the proof that you’re not a pedo?

[New_Hawks_Era]

After the Luka and #1 draft pick situation, every other fan was saying the NBA rigs things to benefit the league. If that’s the case, you’d probably wager they’d prefer the Knicks or a team with a major superstar, rather than two small market, middle-America teams playing in their ultimate showcase.

It’s all a diversion you see! The NBA is trying to throw people off of their trail including telling Anthony Edwards to stop using condoms….

Bull, they should have rigged him to his hometown team Atlanta, that rig **** is fraudulent

[New_Hawks_Era]

They have presented absolutely no facts, just pure conjecture.

If the league rigs the draft, why not rig it for the glamor franchises that provide the most revenue for the league? The league rigs the draft for the Knicks because they are in new york, and then leaves them out to dry for 40 years after. Makes total sense.

Again, making stupid reasons on why it is or isn’t rigged.

Did Lebron get drafted to Cleveland with the #1 pick? Seems like a fact to me.

Did Dikembe claim he was told Philly was gonna remain in the top 3? Another fact

Is this suspicious? Maybe yes to some. Or maybe not. You can explain why it’s not suspicious.

None of it is actually evidence (technically foreknowledge can be taken as evidence in court).

Has LeBron had greater longevity than any NBA player? Seems like a fact to me. Could he be an alien or a robot?

Obama supporting gay marriage is a fact. Could he be the antichrist?

The Thunder being close is a fact. Could they be having gay orgies in their locker room?

You looking at a child is a fact. Could you be a pedophile?

Lady Gaga supporting trans rights is a fact. Could she be a man?

These are all facts, and you have no evidence to disprove any of these theories.

Your right about the facts but your questions after the facts are lowkey straight jacket worthy

Is it a fact that your losing it?

[Los_29]

That they don't win all of the time does not mean they are not favored by the league.

A league worth billions of dollars can’t even rig games properly. Is that what you’re trying to say?

The league is not rigged. Stop believing in conspiracy theories.

Explain Lakers free throw discrepancy over multiple years.

Unless the players are corrupt, league direction to refs isn't going to always get the desired results. I don't believe the players are corrupt.

Look at the top 10 teams for each season since 2022. Pelicans, Magic, Raptors, Spurs, Bucks, Suns, Jazz, Mavs, Rockets have all been on there. What’s the incentive to giving them an edge?

Once again, stop believing in conspiracy theories.

[New_Hawks_Era]

The Mavericks' odds of winning this year was 1.8%. The average odds of winning Powerball is nearly 1 in 300,000,000 or 0.0000003333% and yet seven people won the Powerball jackpot in 2024. The odds of all three of the Mavericks winning this year, the Pelicans winning in 2012 (13.7%) and the Cavaliers winning in 2003 (22.5%) combined is 0.055665% or approximately 1 in 1796, substantially greater than Powerball odds.

Sometimes, when dealing with a random process, things just happen.

What were the Hawks odds just last year?

[New_Hawks_Era]

Tim Donaghy is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to confirming if the NBA being rigged. Can’t deny it.

He was rigged, the NBA not so much

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The fact that you are treating people who suggest that there could be corruption in this day and age like lepars says more about you than them. Same goes for everyone else. Do you not have any critical thinking skills? Do you genuinely think things in the world are free of corruption? Should I treat you like you’re an idiot because I disagree with you?

[Broadcaster]

Tim Donaghy is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to confirming if the NBA being rigged. Can’t deny it.

He was rigged, the NBA not so much

You actually think it was just him?

[Broadcaster]

What is the difference between saying “the NBA might be rigged,” and “The Aliens might have built the pyramids?”

Why would the NBA hire Ernst & Young to oversee the draft process to show it’s transparent and fair for a draft that they rig? If they rig the league, why are we having OKC vs. Indy? If they rigged the lottery for the Knicks to get Ewing, why not Melo? For a league that has been rigging things for 40 years, why haven’t we heard any leaks from anyone?

There is as much evidence that the NBA is rigged as you’d find in an episode of ancient aliens.

You act like you have all of the facts. You don’t. None of us do. You can’t put a few specific things together and claim that I’m stupid because of it. Maybe you’re just naïve.

We don’t know, so maybe aliens?

Again, take that condescending **** and go **** yourself. Disagreeing is one thing. Being a condescending prick is another. You are the latter.

[Broadcaster]

If the 2025 lottery was fixed, why did the Jazz tank?

I genuinely don’t have answers because I can’t. I’m just speculating. Based off of how I’ve seen the world function this seems like something that wouldn’t surprise me. In fact I would be pleasantly surprised if things were straight down the middle. With how fat their profit margins are though I sincerely doubt they care about their consumers.

But what are you really speculating about? Conspiracy theorists say stuff they are "just asking questions" but the speculation stops at the idea that a conspiracy may be possible. No actual digging to get more information. 3 decades of the draft and not a single shred of evidence, or a cohesive narrative for how or why or when this is done, whos in charge etc..

Like you said you base this idea off your world view, you don't need any evidence to support it. The vague idea of a conspiracy is enough for you to belive it is likely, but brush it off as just "speculating" when asked for some supporting arguments

You make it seem like I can actually have any evidence. I can’t. Neither can you. This is entirely speculation on both of our parts.

The evidence for me is in how some things line up. When very unusual coincidences coincide with the league banking more money I am definitely skeptical. I’d feel that way about anything. I’ve seen enough to know the world of money doesn’t play nice.

And, to be clear, I’m not even claiming anything specific. I’m not saying they orchestrate everything. I just don’t trust them and have seen enough to make me feel like that’s warranted (foul calls that don’t exist at crucial points in games, Donaghy, draft lottery things, Luka, etc). Could I be wrong? Sure. But so could you.