Giannis to Raptors

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Re: Giannis to Raptors 

Post#121 » by JonHeist » Tue Jun 3, 2025 1:49 am

Texas Chuck wrote:
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Texas Chuck wrote:yeah I don't think your billion dollar math checks out but whatever.

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I definitely don't think that if Giannis asks out he only gets where he wants 1/15 times. Feels optimistic for a guy who wants him to stay. I tried to have real numbers at your request. I didn't sugar it any direction.



c'mon I spent like 10 mins on that, gimme a better rebuttal than "nah"


Let's call it even. I broke down my percentage of Giannis to a specific team and you just said nah 1%. :lol:



bruh, you do a pretty good job modding this forum, so you must definitely know how to read


>you forgot the "and ends up there this offseason" part of the calculation -- that's what takes it from ~15% to ~1%
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Re: Giannis to Raptors 

Post#122 » by Texas Chuck » Tue Jun 3, 2025 1:59 am

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c'mon I spent like 10 mins on that, gimme a better rebuttal than "nah"


Let's call it even. I broke down my percentage of Giannis to a specific team and you just said nah 1%. :lol:



bruh, you do a pretty good job modding this forum, so you must definitely know how to read


>you forgot the "and ends up there this offseason" part of the calculation -- that's what takes it from ~15% to ~1%


I struggle at times but I did manage to make that out.

But you are saying 14 out of 15 or 19 out of 20 times that the Bucks couldn't find a deal with the team he picked. Again, I get you wanting that to be the case, but I don't agree with you.

Because there are some teams that seem like they'd be logical for him to want to go to, who can make a very compelling offer. And unlike the posters on this forum who state they would only want if they got him for 10 cents on the dollar I think those actual teams would covet adding Giannis.

Then there are some potential teams he might want who don't have a singular great asset, but who have enough volume that I think the Bucks might work with him anyway.

But we aren't going to agree. I don't think you are ready to face the possibility he might leave and that's okay. We aren't to that point and may never be.

But I don't think its a 1% chance that he asks for a trade and gets traded where he wants. I definitely think its higher.
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Re: Giannis to Raptors 

Post#123 » by JonHeist » Tue Jun 3, 2025 2:16 am

Texas Chuck wrote:
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JonHeist wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Let's call it even. I broke down my percentage of Giannis to a specific team and you just said nah 1%. :lol:



bruh, you do a pretty good job modding this forum, so you must definitely know how to read


>you forgot the "and ends up there this offseason" part of the calculation -- that's what takes it from ~15% to ~1%


I struggle at times but I did manage to make that out.

But you are saying 14 out of 15 or 19 out of 20 times that the Bucks couldn't find a deal with the team he picked. Again, I get you wanting that to be the case, but I don't agree with you.

Because there are some teams that seem like they'd be logical for him to want to go to, who can make a very compelling offer. And unlike the posters on this forum who state they would only want if they got him for 10 cents on the dollar I think those actual teams would covet adding Giannis.

Then there are some potential teams he might want who don't have a singular great asset, but who have enough volume that I think the Bucks might work with him anyway.

But we aren't going to agree. I don't think you are ready to face the possibility he might leave and that's okay. We aren't to that point and may never be.


But I don't think its a 1% chance that he asks for a trade and gets traded where he wants. I definitely think its higher.


before October 22nd? yup, strong disagree

by the start of the 26-27 season? now there's a conversation to be had
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Re: Giannis to Raptors 

Post#124 » by cgf » Tue Jun 3, 2025 2:36 am

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How do they keep Barnes? Why would they keep Barnes. He doesn’t fit with Giannis and he is the most valuable asset the Raps have.

One post above you, in response to someone saying Barnes & Giannis overlapped and that he had to be in the trade, I wrote:

cgf wrote:Do they overlap? Barnes struggles at creating for himself and he's not as forceful on the glass as I'd like him too be, but he has shot the 3 well for stretches...especially when they're created for him, with the kind of FT numbers that suggest his mechanics are sound...and passes the ball well. So I think he'd fit very well in the front court next to Giannis like a better defending Portis.

Maybe I'm just not as high on him but I don't think he's a particularly great centerpiece, despite him being an exciting defender with playmaking chops, and see him in that same '2b/3a on a good team' tier that I see Ingram, Barrett, and Quickley; I just don't know that he has the tools to become a 1b/2a caliber scorer.

So if Giannis wants and is able to force his way to Toronto, I'm not sure which of those 2b/3a guys you get makes a meaningful difference unless one just fits better with a post-Giannis Bucks. So if Bropez dips + Dame is done as an elite player, I don't see why Barnes would be any better a fit than Ingram or Barrett :dontknow:


Man, Barnes can’t shoot and that’s a problem if they get Giannis.


This season was a mess, but last year he shot 38.5% on 3.9 C&S 3s a game. That is perfectly fine next too Giannis even without any improvement.
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Re: Giannis to Raptors 

Post#125 » by Asif16 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 3:10 am

Giannis would love in love with Toronto and can seriously expand his brand with a Market like Toronto.

The bucks are going no-where fast and he has terrible chemistry with Dame. Not to mention no picks for the future. This is a easy yes for Toronto
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Re: Giannis to Raptors 

Post#126 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Tue Jun 3, 2025 9:18 am

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Bucks also get their pick of two of Dick, Walter, Agbaji, Shead and Mogbo...


Toronto still has to have a team around Giannis post trade or it makes no sense to make this move...

the offer in the OP is too light to close the deal, imo
if Raps would rather keep all the younger guys, Milwaukee can get a better deal
it's too bad you guys didn't land in the top 4 of the draft, honestly


I don't think there are many teams that are actually willing to trade a significant piece at this time. People are floating Jaylen Brown, Jalen Johnson, Sengun, Mobley etc trades but I doubt any of those teams are actually willing to make franchise altering moves like that because they can rationale retooling on the margins to make a run. There's been a different champion every year and the East is weaker.

The Raptors just need to beat the market here, but if Giannis also says he wants to go to Toronto, it might be enough
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Re: Giannis to Raptors 

Post#127 » by SlimShady83 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 10:43 am

Is there a way for Raptors to get both Giannis and KD ??? I just feel like there is storm coming a big storm.
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Re: Giannis to Raptors 

Post#128 » by YayBasketball » Tue Jun 3, 2025 10:50 am

SlimShady83 wrote:Is there a way for Raptors to get both Giannis and KD ??? I just feel like there is storm coming a big storm.

The satire accounts think so.... :lol:

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Re: Giannis to Raptors 

Post#129 » by Mavrelous » Tue Jun 3, 2025 10:56 am

Didn't know there is a Logion Hoops in addition to Centel...
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Re: Giannis to Raptors 

Post#130 » by zimpy27 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 12:20 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Didn't know there is a Logion Hoops in addition to Centel...


We got Sharms Charania :lol:

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Re: Giannis to Raptors 

Post#131 » by GiannisAnte34 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 2:26 pm

Logion and Centel aren’t even the Temu of ESPN, more like the AliExpress

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