Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas

[ShootingtheJ]

I'd like to believe in the potential of KPJ, but I also think there's a high likelihood that he nukes the team when he's on the court if his game doesn't mature.

Not that big of a concern considering he replaces the guy who was nuking the team.

The Bucks actually had a better offensive rating with KPJ on the floor last year than with Dame on the floor. Largely a function of handing the reigns of the offense to Giannis, but that's our future.

Pairing Giannis with a PG who defends is a proven winning formula.

You don't have to make literally every single post of yours about Dame.

Then read my other posts, and learn what literally means.

[ShootingtheJ]

Sims will be better than Looney over the next 3 years, and it doesn't eat into our exceptions to sign Sims, but it does for Looney.

Looney is a much better ballplayer than Sims and is only three years older.

Sims is another guy with no discernible bball skills.

Looney has much better hands, is a better rebounder, has a much better assist to turnover ratio, is much smarter and understands the game so much better. Sims is starting his 6th year. He is what he is, which is better than nothing, but not much more.

Looney may be out of our price range, but if he isn't, he's miles ahead of Sims.

Sims was phenomenal defensively. Every defensive metric as a Buck was outrageous, as was the eye test.

Defending is a basketball skill.

I don't dislike Looney, but I'd rather have Sims and Trent than Looney and another season of Taurean Prince.

[ReasonablySober]

Not that big of a concern considering he replaces the guy who was nuking the team.

The Bucks actually had a better offensive rating with KPJ on the floor last year than with Dame on the floor. Largely a function of handing the reigns of the offense to Giannis, but that's our future.

Pairing Giannis with a PG who defends is a proven winning formula.

You don't have to make literally every single post of yours about Dame.

Then read my other posts, and learn what literally means.

I sense subtext.

[Frank Nova]

Bobby opts in, Pat opts in.

Kuzma, Bobby, Pat and 2031 1st for KD.

Giannis/KD vs. the world.

Does Phoenix consider this?

[JonHeist]

Bobby opts in, Pat opts in.

Kuzma, Bobby, Pat and 2031 1st for KD.

Giannis/KD vs. the world.

Does Phoenix consider this?

probably not, but who knows what KD's market actually looks like and they might be dead-set on moving him

[jschligs]

Bobby opts in, Pat opts in.

Kuzma, Bobby, Pat and 2031 1st for KD.

Giannis/KD vs. the world.

Does Phoenix consider this?

probably not, but who knows what KD's market actually looks like and the might be dead-set on moving him

Well if the media and Twitter world says Giannis is worth a sack of cheeseburgers than 37 year old KD has to be worth table scraps. That's what is so wild to me. Knicks fans saying no to a KAT + scraps and 2 pick swaps trade. Toronto fans saying no to a Scottie, Dick, a few pick swaps and 1 unprotected first. If Giannis isn't worth that, then KD isn't worth more than Kuz/Bobby/Pat/31 first.

After all that, I'd take KD on the Bucks for that package. He's not an aggressively physical player. He could easily put up 26 ppg again next year. And when Dame comes back....ooooooo weeeee. That's an old ass team though, basically banking on it working. But if it didn't at least you'd be off Kuz's contract for 2026-2027.

[RRyder823]

Bobby opts in, Pat opts in.

Kuzma, Bobby, Pat and 2031 1st for KD.

Giannis/KD vs. the world.

Does Phoenix consider this?

probably not, but who knows what KD's market actually looks like and they might be dead-set on moving him

I mean I've seen worse trade offers for **** Giannis on the GB sooooooooooooooooo yeah still no probably not

Sent from my SM-S918U using RealGM mobile app

[ReasonablySober]

Bobby opts in, Pat opts in.

Kuzma, Bobby, Pat and 2031 1st for KD.

Giannis/KD vs. the world.

Does Phoenix consider this?

There's nothing the Bucks can do to win in an open trade war. If KD was on the market, the Suns are getting a lot more than Milwaukee can offer. It's like Sacramento hoping they can land Giannis with Sabonis and some picks five years from now.

[soxperry]

Bobby opts in, Pat opts in.

Kuzma, Bobby, Pat and 2031 1st for KD.

Giannis/KD vs. the world.

Does Phoenix consider this?

There's nothing the Bucks can do to win in an open trade war. If KD was on the market, the Suns are getting a lot more than Milwaukee can offer. It's like Sacramento hoping they can land Giannis with Sabonis and some picks five years from now.

maybe. and then again maybe not.

Houston is the front runner in any Phoenix deal since they have Phoenix draft capital. But Houston, a very young team, would probably rather have Booker at 29 than KD at 37.

You take them out of the equation for KD and things get a lot more interesting. We do probably still get outbid but i'm not totally crossing it off.

[JonHeist]

I'd say it's no more likely that Giannis is gone before opening day than KD is a Buck

both very unlikely tho

[pifhluk23]

Bobby opts in, Pat opts in.

Kuzma, Bobby, Pat and 2031 1st for KD.

Giannis/KD vs. the world.

Does Phoenix consider this?

Why the hell would we do that... Those are valuable contracts and Bobby is an actual good player and you want to give them the 31 1st for 37 year old KD? That's a Kohl era trade.

Also I know people are infatuated with Sims and he has looked ok but I can all but guarantee he looks a whole lot different playing 30+ mpg.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

I'd like to believe in the potential of KPJ, but I also think there's a high likelihood that he nukes the team when he's on the court if his game doesn't mature.

agreed. theres also a possibility he becomes an allstar tho. you can believe it either way but id like to think as long as giannis is around he stays much more focused than hes been.

[emunney]

Bobby opts in, Pat opts in.

Kuzma, Bobby, Pat and 2031 1st for KD.

Giannis/KD vs. the world.

Does Phoenix consider this?

There's nothing the Bucks can do to win in an open trade war. If KD was on the market, the Suns are getting a lot more than Milwaukee can offer. It's like Sacramento hoping they can land Giannis with Sabonis and some picks five years from now.

Tbf, they probably do have a better chance five years from now.

[Ron Swanson]

I don't think we have a competitive KD offer FWIW, but I did see a proposal where Dallas was getting him in a 3-team deal and all they gave up was Klay (bad salary), PJ Washington, Gafford, and the Lakers 2029 1st, so *shrugs*. As usual, I think people severely underrate good/great players just because they're "old".

[emunney]

I don't think we have a competitive KD offer FWIW, but I did see a proposal where Dallas was getting him in a 3-team deal and all they gave up was Klay (bad salary), PJ Washington, Gafford, and the Lakers 2029 1st, so *shrugs*. As usual, I think people severely underrate good/great players just because they're "old".

Reasonable to question how good he'll be next year, but not reasonable to think he'd be any worse than a phenomenal #2.

[jschligs]

I think if you could somehow manage to get KD, Giannis, and Dame all on the Bucks you do it. The three of them have insane gravity in different ways and while we'd be in a tough spot with the rest of the roster, there isn't a better 3 in the league. I don't love the idea of another KD super team type situation, but this is one I'd absolutely try.

Having those three plus KPJ/Trent/Sims/Green/scraps puts you in contention right away. If Brook wants to come back for cheap then you're set.

[Ron Swanson]

Makes sense why the Rockets would leak that the Suns have been prying around getting their pick (#10) back. I'm sure they'd love to add Durant at a discount (FVV's bad salary plus 2/3rd's of the Suns picks). Also saw a proposal on the T&T board where the Raptors would step in and have the winning bid with us kicking in our 2031 1st (Top-5 protected) and getting Ingram re-routed here. I'd be pretty intrigued by that idea.

[ShootingtheJ]

I think if you could somehow manage to get KD, Giannis, and Dame all on the Bucks you do it. The three of them have insane gravity in different ways and while we'd be in a tough spot with the rest of the roster, there isn't a better 3 in the league. I don't love the idea of another KD super team type situation, but this is one I'd absolutely try.

Having those three plus KPJ/Trent/Sims/Green/scraps puts you in contention right away. If Brook wants to come back for cheap then you're set.

Logistically not possible because of the hard cap

[ReasonablySober]

Athletic:

If Adams leaves, team sources said the Rockets could reignite their interest in Brook Lopez. The 37-year-old, who averaged 13.0 points, 5.0 rebounds and 1.9 blocks per game shooting 37 percent from 3 in Milwaukee last season, was previously a target for Houston and would theoretically be a fit, given his two-way production and health (played 237 games over the last three seasons)

[EasyE31]

he commits us to the wrong style of play generally.... even if he can be uber effective from time to time with it

no caoch can manage the idea of playing him 30 minutes one night and not at all the next

lopez more than any other player....prince or kuzma included.... cost us being competitive in that indy series

It depends on the deal when they bring him back. If he's committed to playing more of a reserve 10-20 minutes per night role he'd be great. Even if its not our ideal style of play its still good to be able to play big when you need to.

i mean theoretically yes. but if thats who youve got it changes the entire dynamic of the rest of the roster too. put a crazy active switching rim protecting dunker in the center spot and then you can build the roster out in modern fashion.

its almost like you have to decide.....besides giannis whose like a joker card....what kind of roster do you build to play defense around lopez. what kind of offense do you play with a guy like sims.

youre literally building two different teams on each side of the ball for when hes on the court and when hes off. its not like oh just play drop when hes there and something else when hes not. its a completely different dynamic and style of play for the entire roster

If you build an athletic, competent roster they should have no problem playing multiple styles of defense. Its no different than switching between man and zone.