Windhorst: Raptors making noise around the league looking for a “big fish” // Giannis & Toronto "Mutual Interest"/KD too

[TGM]

Siakam is 31 and just led a team to the finals. All we heard during his time here is he could never be a first option on a contender. Now at age 23 we have people declaring the same for scottie. Call me crazy but id rather keep building with the pieces we have rather than have 3 years of giannis and be one of those teams stuck in draft pick hell worrying about how high the pick were going to give up is every other year for the next 5+ years

Yes you are crazy. Watch Indiana get rolled over by OKC in 5 games.

Pacers are like the Heat a few years ago riding a short term momentum. This team will fall back down to earth next year. Also, it isn't so much about Siakam why they are winning. Andrew, Aaron, TJ these guys are all contributing especially on the defensive end. Also, Haliburton and Turner both have strong outside games. Turner is an underrated defender.

Giannis is a perennial MVP candidate. You definitely go for such a player when available. Scottie is not Giannis. Nor will he ever come close. Its four years now and its very evident that there is a huge gap in ability.

My guess is Giannis will cost something similar to what Phoenix paid: Bridges, Cam and a bunch of picks. For Raptors probably Barnes, Dick and a bunch of picks.

[WuTang_OG]

Lol

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[NinjaBro]

I do not want Durant. It would absolutely make me sick to have to cheer for him. Not doing it.

[Pointgod]

I’m under the impression Booker would cost more than Giannis.

Is that crazy?

It’s also why I’m kind of less interested in him, but if the price is right, sign me up.

Similarly, if KD can be had for RJ and stuff, screw everything else, I’d just do that.

To be fair, I’d take pretty much any “big fish” for RJ and stuff (Dick, #9, picks).

Both Booker and Giannis would cost a lot rightly. Look at what Donovan Mitchell was traded for, then remember both of these teams don’t have full control of their draft picks the next so there’s no incentive for them to be bad unless they’re getting their picks back.

[MessiahUjiri]

I do not want Durant. It would absolutely make me sick to have to cheer for him. Not doing it.

I’m sick to my stomach fam

[Clutch0z24]

And when you trade Barnes,IQ, Dick, picks.. is it really a massive upgrade over Giannis and a healthy Dame?

Legitimately.. it's starts being a question. If the trade package is RB/IQ/Dick and a massive load of picks? Sure. But when you add a few more rotation players and prospects to that...it starts getting a little dicier.

When you have Giannis/Ingram duo with some good players like IQ/RJ/Yak potentially in the mix you are a contender especially in this weak east.....Bucks like i said had Portis/GTJr/Kuzma for depth....Dame was also not healthy during his Bucks run....If you have a chance to get Giannis you do it...

No, no you dont (when you consider the cost).

Masai isn't trading Scottie and he isn't trading the pick (nor should he). Raptors scouted this draft really well and they love this draft. This whole rumor is a bluff.

Lol ....He also wanted Giannis for 15 years....And been in pursuit of him since 2013...

What makes us contenders with this current team?....Sorry to tell you this current team we have is not close to being legit contenders....Barnes is not a top player he will always hover as a top 50 player but thats it....And Ingram is not a 1st option on a title team....We don't have enough to be true legit winners...Maybe a 6th seed sure but what good is that?

[iBall101]

Oh snap! This must be factual then. Masai patiently waited until now to get one his favorite players. Scottie is 100% traded if this rumor comes into fruition. And, tbh Scottie is not a max player - ask Aaron Gordon lol

[PushDaRock]

Lol

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hoooooo man we just need an interest in Thanasis rumor and it's a lock

[mtcan]

Lol

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hoooooo man we just need an interest in Thanasis rumor and it's a lock

When I hear that Thanasis is replacing the Raptors mascot...that is when the Vegas odds go crazy.

[WuTang_OG]

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• This is not to say the Rockets and Suns are not in communication. On the contrary, Phoenix is aggressive in pursuit of a) trading Kevin Durant and b) regaining full control of their draft capital starting with the No. 10 pick in next month’s draft, team sources said. Since the conclusion of the season, Houston has fielded several calls from Phoenix, who have since gradually lowered their asking price for Durant, those sources said. There is a price where the Rockets would be interested, but with a fear of breaking up their roster for a 36-year-old coming off injury, doubt remains over a deal materializing.


• Bucks superstar Giannis Antetokounmpo remains a target, team sources said, but there has been recent uncertainty in the past week on Antetokounmpo’s actual availability — not to mention the potential asking price Milwaukee would require.

[Brinbe]

the next few months are gonna be feeling like summer 2018 all over again.

taste of danforth comeback szn

[YogurtProducer]

Delusion

Delusion is thinking the gap between Siakam and Ingram + Turner and Quickley is greater than the gap between Giannis and Haliburton. Giannis is a top 3-5 player — a true superstar in the league — whereas Haliburton is a borderline All-NBA player. Giannis is one of maybe 5 players that singlehandedly would elevate almost any team in the league to contender status. That is far more important than the extra defence that Siakam and Turner give the Pacers while Ingram and IQ are slightly better offensive players.

Haliburton being hella overrated on here. Before this playoff run I bet most people wouldn’t have even considered him a top 15 player in the league and now all of the sudden he’s basically as good as Giannis? Okay lol.

A borderline All-NBA player doesn't take his team to the Finals by beating Giannis, the #1 seed Cavs, and a solid Knicks team. Hali is a top-10 player.

This needs a lot of context though.

Giannis had zero help. Porter Jr and AJ Green were top 5 in mins played for Milwaukee.
Cavs were also banged up. Garland and Mobley both missed games.
The Knicks as well were a "worse than average" ECF opponent.

Lets be completely honest - I am happy for Indiana and Pascal mostly, but the Pacers are one of the worst finalist teams in recent memory. It took a LOT of luck (Tatum injury, Cavs injuries, etc.) for them to even have a shot here.

But either way - Giannis a superstar. Haliburton is a tier below that.

[GM89]

Trade Scottie plus draft capital for Giannis. Start Agbaji as the 3&D wing, move RJ to the sixth-man role, and let him and Dick try to replicate their earlier run where both dropped 25 a game, except this time, it should be even easier since they'll be up against backup units.

[JB7]

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• This is not to say the Rockets and Suns are not in communication. On the contrary, Phoenix is aggressive in pursuit of a) trading Kevin Durant and b) regaining full control of their draft capital starting with the No. 10 pick in next month’s draft, team sources said. Since the conclusion of the season, Houston has fielded several calls from Phoenix, who have since gradually lowered their asking price for Durant, those sources said. There is a price where the Rockets would be interested, but with a fear of breaking up their roster for a 36-year-old coming off injury, doubt remains over a deal materializing.


• Bucks superstar Giannis Antetokounmpo remains a target, team sources said, but there has been recent uncertainty in the past week on Antetokounmpo’s actual availability — not to mention the potential asking price Milwaukee would require.

Durant to the Rockets makes the most sense. Suns get back some of their picks, and the Rockets get the clutch scorer they need. Giannis doesn't make sense in Houston, unless they are trying to get both him and Durant. Rockets need backcourt or wing support if they were to acquire Giannis. FVV is not doing it.

[YogurtProducer]

And Giannis is miles better than all 5.

Giannis > Hali
Ingram = Siakm
Turner = Quickley

Delusion

Delusion is thinking the gap between Siakam and Ingram + Turner and Quickley is greater than the gap between Giannis and Haliburton. Giannis is a top 3-5 player — a true superstar in the league — whereas Haliburton is a borderline All-NBA player. Giannis is one of maybe 5 players that singlehandedly would elevate almost any team in the league to contender status. That is far more important than the extra defence that Siakam and Turner give the Pacers while Ingram and IQ are slightly better offensive players.

Haliburton being hella overrated on here. Before this playoff run I bet most people wouldn’t have even considered him a top 15 player in the league and now all of the sudden he’s basically as good as Giannis? Okay lol.

Yep.

Ingram and Siakam are the same tier of player. Both are all-star caliber guys who might make an all-nba team if the stars align.
Quick and Turner are both guys who are 4th/5th starters. I like Turner, but he has just as many flaws as IQ does. He is a center who averaged 6.5rpg and is not some elite defender. Blocks shots but isn't a great defender by any means.

You add Giannis to this team and we are easily at Indiana's level.

[WuTang_OG]

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[YogurtProducer]

Trade Scottie plus draft capital for Giannis. Start Agbaji as the 3&D wing, move RJ to the sixth-man role, and let him and Dick try to replicate their earlier run where both dropped 25 a game, except this time, it should be even easier since they'll be up against backup units.

IQ/Shead
Agbaji/Barrett
Ingram/Battle
Giannis/Boucher
Poeltl/Mogbo

I would probably be moving off Dick in this scenario to get a true backup C. Also would be looking to get a vet backup PG. As much as I like Shead, I think we would benefit from a Tyus Jones or something

[GM89]

Trade Scottie plus draft capital for Giannis. Start Agbaji as the 3&D wing, move RJ to the sixth-man role, and let him and Dick try to replicate their earlier run where both dropped 25 a game, except this time, it should be even easier since they'll be up against backup units.

IQ/Shead
Agbaji/Barrett
Ingram/Battle
Giannis/Boucher
Poeltl/Mogbo

I would probably be moving off Dick in this scenario to get a true backup C. Also would be looking to get a vet backup PG. As much as I like Shead, I think we would benefit from a Tyus Jones or something

What about Ja'Kobe?

[YogurtProducer]

Trade Scottie plus draft capital for Giannis. Start Agbaji as the 3&D wing, move RJ to the sixth-man role, and let him and Dick try to replicate their earlier run where both dropped 25 a game, except this time, it should be even easier since they'll be up against backup units.

IQ/Shead
Agbaji/Barrett
Ingram/Battle
Giannis/Boucher
Poeltl/Mogbo

I would probably be moving off Dick in this scenario to get a true backup C. Also would be looking to get a vet backup PG. As much as I like Shead, I think we would benefit from a Tyus Jones or something

What about Ja'Kobe?

Completely forgot about him.

Even more reason to move off Dick.

But either way - if we got Giannis it is gonna be more than just Scottie. It would probably cost us Scottie + picks + stuff. Jakobe or Dick is likely gone in that deal. Personally my wish would be that Brook wants to come here with Giannis and signs as a cheap FA, or we get Portis in a deal to.

[LoveMyRaps]

RJ + Poeltl + 1st for Bam + Kyle Anderson