Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd

[thebuzzardman]

Here are the Thibs candidates to improve the bench

Please disregard any stars on the list

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/best-nba-players-37-years-old

[mpharris36]

Isn't the above trade not possible because the Suns are deep in the 2nd apron?

Suns can add 2 players or 3 players for Durant...they just can aggregate Durant with another player to match salary purposes. It has to be Durant going out by himself.

But the only way to do a Durant trade for us since we are over the 1st apron is.

KAT basically straight up

or

Mikal + OG

or

Mikal + Josh Hart + Mitch

basically the only trade that sort of makes sense is KAT straight up but even then that is super risky short term move. And KAT was a better player than KD last year and younger and healthier. I get the case you can probably trust KD in the playoffs for next year more. But I don't know if we should be making that risky of a move because our windown completely shuts with another KD injury.

Since KD is old and injury prone....NO WAY...I give up 3 years of a younger KAT for him.

However if its Bridges who is only controlled for 1 more year and then Mitch who is only controlled for one more year and Josh who is a nice player but still a role player. I would do this.

would be a terrible move. Brunson KAT, and KD...someone would have to take a backseat offensively and you would have no one doing the dirty work. Trading 3 for 1 on a team that is already thin.

And 2 of those 3 being our most durable players.

We also wouldnt have defensive center. We don't solve the Brunson/KAT defensive issues...we bring in a still very good but older not durable player.

You would basically be relying on OG to carry the defense and he hasn't always been durable either. You would be way too top heavy with 3 high volume scorers who all really don't defend at a high level.

[KnixinSix]

If PHX wants KAT they'd have to send us more than just KD due to the age difference alone. I'm talking KD, Dunn, and an unprotected 1st.

Otherwise, look elsewhere.

Then we could try to get DDV back with that Deuce, Dadiet, Tucker package someone was floating earlier.

Mitch / Huk
KD / Dunn
OG / Hart
Mikal / DDV
Brunson

I think a better team than what we had this season.

I think MPH trade idea was good Bridges,Mitch,Hart as centerpieces.....PHx loves Bridges...and wants to accomodate KD moving on (who only has 1 year left on his deal)

Bridges (24.9)
Mitch (12.9)
Hart (19.4)
PJ Tucker (3.5)

For

KD (54.7)
Nick Richards (5M)
Ryan Dunn (2.6M)


KAT/Nick Richards/Huk
KD/KAT/OG
OG/Dunn
Divo/Dunn
Brunson/Divo

[thebuzzardman]

Just compile the list of scrubs who will play for 1 million and 2 million per year and that'll be the roster changes.

[god shammgod]

Kd for Kat makes the most sense. Kd was the best iso scorer in the league this year which fits Thibs. He replaces the play making that Randle provided and the shooting that Donte did. He’s also a good perimeter defender. He’s older but our window is now. The league doesn’t stand still. Other teams will rise up. The east is as open as it’s ever gonna be. 3 years from now and who knows where we are in the pecking order. Can’t waste another year hoping that we can make Kat and Jalen work.

[thebuzzardman]

Kd for Kat makes the most sense. Kd was the best iso scorer in the league this year which fits Thibs. He replaces the play making that Randle provided and the shooting that Donte did. He’s also a good perimeter defender. He’s older but our window is now. The league doesn’t stand still. Other teams will rise up. The east is as open as it’s ever gonna be. 3 years from now and who knows where we are in the pecking order. Can’t waste another year hoping that we can make Kat and Jalen work.

They might do this.

Knicks FO seems to operate (I guess most decent ones do, not generally familiar with the idea as a Knick fan this last 20 years) of getting some good players at X dollars with an expiring timeline, so that they will be able to potentially deal them for another high $ player.

I think the KAT and Mikal trades fit that description to some degree. Less than OG, since they resigned him.

Could see KAT or OG going out in some way for KD or Giannis or JJJ...who knows.


A few thoughts:

Pacers: Siakam and Turner
Celtics: KP/Horford/Kornet
Bucks: Giannis/Brook
Cavs: Mobley/Allen

Western contenders (short list)
OKC: iShart/Chet
TPups: Rudy/KAT, then Rudy/Randle/Naz

A bunch of teams are going two bigs, particularly in the east.
Are the Knicks looking to keep pace with JJJ/KAT or Mitch/KD?
I'd think matching up against Celts/Pacers/Cavs is on their mind.


Anyway, this whole topic is really just copium to the fact the Knicks are stuck with this team and have used up all their assets and the team isn't that good.

So, already it's devolved into the KAT hater club, Brunson hater club, Mikal hater club and Hart hater club. Hates everyone club (Shams)
Good luck to the mods.
Place won't really be cleaned up without at least 20 bans.

[KnixinSix]

Kd for Kat makes the most sense. Kd was the best iso scorer in the league this year which fits Thibs. He replaces the play making that Randle provided and the shooting that Donte did. He’s also a good perimeter defender. He’s older but our window is now. The league doesn’t stand still. Other teams will rise up. The east is as open as it’s ever gonna be. 3 years from now and who knows where we are in the pecking order. Can’t waste another year hoping that we can make Kat and Jalen work.

If the Sidery rumor is true...it'll be Bridges plus pieces for KD.....


Keeping 3 years of KAT and trading Hart, Mitch (1 year left) and Bridges (1 year left) is much better

[mpharris36]

If PHX wants KAT they'd have to send us more than just KD due to the age difference alone. I'm talking KD, Dunn, and an unprotected 1st.

Otherwise, look elsewhere.

Then we could try to get DDV back with that Deuce, Dadiet, Tucker package someone was floating earlier.

Mitch / Huk
KD / Dunn
OG / Hart
Mikal / DDV
Brunson

I think a better team than what we had this season.

I think MPH trade idea was good Bridges,Mitch,Hart as centerpieces.....PHx loves Bridges...and wants to accomodate KD moving on (who only has 1 year left on his deal)

Bridges (24.9)
Mitch (12.9)
Hart (19.4)
PJ Tucker (3.5)

For

KD (54.7)
Nick Richards (5M)
Ryan Dunn (2.6M)


KAT/Nick Richards/Huk
KD/KAT/OG
OG/Dunn
Divo/Dunn
Brunson/Divo

dont put that evil on me. I said the money would work but it would be a terrible idea.

[mpharris36]

Kd for Kat makes the most sense. Kd was the best iso scorer in the league this year which fits Thibs. He replaces the play making that Randle provided and the shooting that Donte did. He’s also a good perimeter defender. He’s older but our window is now. The league doesn’t stand still. Other teams will rise up. The east is as open as it’s ever gonna be. 3 years from now and who knows where we are in the pecking order. Can’t waste another year hoping that we can make Kat and Jalen work.

Keeping 3 years of KAT and trading Hart, Mitch (1 year left) and Bridges (1 year left) is much better

no

[KnixinSix]

If PHX wants KAT they'd have to send us more than just KD due to the age difference alone. I'm talking KD, Dunn, and an unprotected 1st.

Otherwise, look elsewhere.

Then we could try to get DDV back with that Deuce, Dadiet, Tucker package someone was floating earlier.

Mitch / Huk
KD / Dunn
OG / Hart
Mikal / DDV
Brunson

I think a better team than what we had this season.

I think MPH trade idea was good Bridges,Mitch,Hart as centerpieces.....PHx loves Bridges...and wants to accomodate KD moving on (who only has 1 year left on his deal)

Bridges (24.9)
Mitch (12.9)
Hart (19.4)
PJ Tucker (3.5)

For

KD (54.7)
Nick Richards (5M)
Ryan Dunn (2.6M)


KAT/Nick Richards/Huk
KD/KAT/OG
OG/Dunn
Divo/Dunn
Brunson/Divo

dont put that evil on me. I said the money would work but it would be a terrible idea.

Lollll you dont like it if we get the right role players back like Dunn and Richards while keeping 3 years of KAT ????

Sidery seems to think it'll be Bridges and we know Leon is super close with KAT. They could keep KAT and move Bridges while also replacing Thibs with a coach that will better utilize KAT.

[Fury]

If PHX wants KAT they'd have to send us more than just KD due to the age difference alone. I'm talking KD, Dunn, and an unprotected 1st.

Otherwise, look elsewhere.

Then we could try to get DDV back with that Deuce, Dadiet, Tucker package someone was floating earlier.

Mitch / Huk
KD / Dunn
OG / Hart
Mikal / DDV
Brunson

I think a better team than what we had this season.

I think MPH trade idea was good Bridges,Mitch,Hart as centerpieces.....PHx loves Bridges...and wants to accomodate KD moving on (who only has 1 year left on his deal)

Bridges (24.9)
Mitch (12.9)
Hart (19.4)
PJ Tucker (3.5)

For

KD (54.7)
Nick Richards (5M)
Ryan Dunn (2.6M)


KAT/Nick Richards/Huk
KD/KAT/OG
OG/Dunn
Divo/Dunn
Brunson/Divo

dont put that evil on me. I said the money would work but it would be a terrible idea.

Thanks for the trade idea Mp, couldn't have done this without you.

[mpharris36]

I think MPH trade idea was good Bridges,Mitch,Hart as centerpieces.....PHx loves Bridges...and wants to accomodate KD moving on (who only has 1 year left on his deal)

Bridges (24.9)
Mitch (12.9)
Hart (19.4)
PJ Tucker (3.5)

For

KD (54.7)
Nick Richards (5M)
Ryan Dunn (2.6M)


KAT/Nick Richards/Huk
KD/KAT/OG
OG/Dunn
Divo/Dunn
Brunson/Divo

dont put that evil on me. I said the money would work but it would be a terrible idea.

Lollll you dont like it if we get the right role players back like Dunn and Richards while keeping 3 years of KAT ????

Dunn can't shoot (think Josh Hart and 100% worse because he can't play make like Hart). And Richards is nothing more than a backup big. He's basically KAT on defense for the most part with a little more shot blocking.

Honestly I would rather develop Houkporti.

[spree8]

Sign and trade Precious and a pick?

Nobody really wants Precious

I like him

Haha I wish man… don’t think they want him at 11-12m and we don’t have much to add to him in the way of picks to get them to do it. Doubt the 2026 Wiz protected pick does it.

[KnixinSix]

dont put that evil on me. I said the money would work but it would be a terrible idea.

Lollll you dont like it if we get the right role players back like Dunn and Richards while keeping 3 years of KAT ????

Dunn can't shoot (think Josh Hart and 100% worse because he can't play make like Hart). And Richards is nothing more than a backup big. He's basically KAT on defense for the most part with a little more shot blocking.

Honestly I would rather develop Houkporti.

Fair enough however, Mitch has only 1 year left and Bridges only has 1 year left and may prefer to go back to Phoenix.

Plus you are getting Kevin Durant.

[mpharris36]

Kd for Kat makes the most sense. Kd was the best iso scorer in the league this year which fits Thibs. He replaces the play making that Randle provided and the shooting that Donte did. He’s also a good perimeter defender. He’s older but our window is now. The league doesn’t stand still. Other teams will rise up. The east is as open as it’s ever gonna be. 3 years from now and who knows where we are in the pecking order. Can’t waste another year hoping that we can make Kat and Jalen work.

I would ease up on "good" perimeter defender. He obviously can bother shots with his size and wingspan but he really is an impactful defender...I would say neutral is better. Better than KAT yes in terms that teams won't seek him out on switches. And KD won't pick up the dummy fouls KAT does which would help.

I am torn a little bit. A fully healthy KD in the playoffs for next year might be the better option.

But KD wasn't better than KAT this year...those are just facts. Add in the rebounding, and the fact KAT is more durable and 7 years younger.

They both have equal shooting gravity...and KAT drives way more.

I don't know if I can pull the trigger on that move.

[knicksstuff]

Phoenix cant aggregate players they are way over the second apron

[spree8]

Kd for Kat makes the most sense. Kd was the best iso scorer in the league this year which fits Thibs. He replaces the play making that Randle provided and the shooting that Donte did. He’s also a good perimeter defender. He’s older but our window is now. The league doesn’t stand still. Other teams will rise up. The east is as open as it’s ever gonna be. 3 years from now and who knows where we are in the pecking order. Can’t waste another year hoping that we can make Kat and Jalen work.

I would ease up on "good" perimeter defender. He obviously can bother shots with his size and wingspan but he really is an impactful defender...I would say neutral is better. Better than KAT yes in terms that teams won't seek him out on switches. And KD won't pick up the dummy fouls KAT does which would help.

I am torn a little bit. A fully healthy KD in the playoffs for next year might be the better option.

But KD wasn't better than KAT this year...those are just facts. Add in the rebounding, and the fact KAT is more durable and 7 years younger.

They both have equal shooting gravity...and KAT drives way more.

I don't know if I can pull the trigger on that move.

Only way I’m making that deal is if we run their pockets of all picks and young players to flip elsewhere for more depth/upgrades. KAT for KD straight up is just indefensible all things considered.

[god shammgod]

Kd for Kat makes the most sense. Kd was the best iso scorer in the league this year which fits Thibs. He replaces the play making that Randle provided and the shooting that Donte did. He’s also a good perimeter defender. He’s older but our window is now. The league doesn’t stand still. Other teams will rise up. The east is as open as it’s ever gonna be. 3 years from now and who knows where we are in the pecking order. Can’t waste another year hoping that we can make Kat and Jalen work.

I would ease up on "good" perimeter defender. He obviously can bother shots with his size and wingspan but he really is an impactful defender...I would say neutral is better. Better than KAT yes in terms that teams won't seek him out on switches. And KD won't pick up the dummy fouls KAT does which would help.

I am torn a little bit. A fully healthy KD in the playoffs for next year might be the better option.

But KD wasn't better than KAT this year...those are just facts. Add in the rebounding, and the fact KAT is more durable and 7 years younger.

They both have equal shooting gravity...and KAT drives way more.

I don't know if I can pull the trigger on that move.

I think he’s actually good. Not great. You’re not gonna put him on people to shut them down. But I think he’s above average. If you asked suns fans I would bet they agree.

It’s not an easy decision because of his age. But like I said, the time is now. You can’t assume we’re gonna be contenders 3 years from now just because we stood still.

Maybe some other option will appear that makes sense. But right now I’m not sure who else is gonna become available.

[DaGawd]

i need some assets back from phoenix other than kd in a kat swap

[spree8]

Zion for free? Wtf lol

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