Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd

[MrDollarBills]

imagine we drafted zion like we should’ve been able to/wanted and his crash out happened all in real time in nyc.. i’m grateful

Zion would have spent all his $ on Junior's Cheesecake and high priced escorts.

He'd have turned into a 400lb Herpes Simplex Virus in NYC.

The folks who work on Tryst would have their retirement funds secured if Zion ever came to NYC.

[MrDollarBills]

Nick Young on Gil's Arena said Giannis just bought a $10 million dollar house in NY...fwiw.

Is it in Brooklyn? Because that's where he'll be playing.

Reverse jinx is now in full effect.

Giannis is coming here. Bookmark this post!!!

[Jeffrey]

I would need something else back from PHX though if we were to do it. They are getting the get out of jail free card by getting the younger, more durable, more controllable player for a player they want to trade.

PHX isn't dictating these terms.

Also metrically it says KAT was a better defender than KD last year. Again metrics aren't everything but the move based on Offensive and Defensive LEBRON says we would lose about 2 wins with this move.

A win or 2 is kind of meaningless with these metrics which are imperfect to begin with.

And you’re acting like there’s no market for Kd while there clearly will be.

Do the suns even have anything much to give ? It all went in the Durant trade.

I hate that KD is so old but he slides into KATs role perfectly. Durant this year got 63 touches per game to KATs 60 and believe it or not their post-up volume was shockingly close. The key difference between the two being time of possession and dribbles per touch. When you think of all those times the Knicks could never make an entry pass to KAT while consistently asking him to create from 23+ feet out…that’s sort of KDs world even at his age. When you factor in his playmaking the fit would be seamless. Again…the issue is he’s 37 but I’m with you. Get me a championship tomorrow I can’t be worrying about whether Orlando finally acquires an elite guard in three years. We need to get to the finals next year period. Losing to Siakam is ridiculous to me.

I would like to add these other points:

1. Although at age 37, he is still Kevin Durant. If y'all think he will just fall off the cliff if he is healthy and only due to age, you're thinking of the wrong sport. That's the NFL and MLB.

2. Contract length - if this doesn't work out then we will be a player for a significant FA or two in 2027. KAT doesn't give us that option of flexibility until 2028. I'm pretty sure if traded, KD wants an extension similar to Jimmy Butler. I don't know if I want to stomach additional 2 years of KD with Butler's money. If it was 2 years 35-45 per year where do I sign up.

3. KD has enough moxie to demand the ball during crunch time. I love Brunson but we need another crunch time scorer. We just saw KAT being iced out this whole year during crunch time

4. KD is a better help defender and perimeter defender than KAT

5. KD takes more 3s than KAT... 6.0 vs. 4.7.

6. This can only be for a 1v1 trade or they need to add another player BECAUSE you are getting a younger player that is locked in for x amount of years.

[thebuzzardman]

Nick Young on Gil's Arena said Giannis just bought a $10 million dollar house in NY...fwiw.

Is it in Brooklyn? Because that's where he'll be playing.

Reverse jinx is now in full effect.

Giannis is coming here. Bookmark this post!!!

Only this time I mean it. They have the picks.

Giannis
Hart
OG
Mikal
Brunson


That starting lineup sucks. Lacks spacing. Giannis going to do secondary ballhandling and pass to the open Hart?

Good plan.

If you want to get eliminated in the first or second round

[KnixinSix]

Gut feeling, the trade that happens is Mikal for JJJ.

Does it make the Knicks better? No.

I guess the follow on trade would be for Divo, however that happens.

It's not what I want, it's what I think this FO wants.

KAT
JJJ
OG
Divo
Brunson

Hart
Mitch
Whatever etc


Starting lineup still has defensive issues in the backcourt. But I think they like the taller KAT/Someone who can play defense thing in the frontcourt.

Are you being serious? How JJJ for Bridges is approaching a steal. No knockt on Bridges. But JJJ is the best player on Memphis. His 3 pointer improved drastically and we already know he's an elite very athletic defender and still very young. Does it make us better? Hell F@cking yeah does. But why would Memphis trade JJJ to us?

It may need to be KAT for JJJ with an agreement to extend with us.

[thebuzzardman]

Gut feeling, the trade that happens is Mikal for JJJ.

Does it make the Knicks better? No.

I guess the follow on trade would be for Divo, however that happens.

It's not what I want, it's what I think this FO wants.

KAT
JJJ
OG
Divo
Brunson

Hart
Mitch
Whatever etc


Starting lineup still has defensive issues in the backcourt. But I think they like the taller KAT/Someone who can play defense thing in the frontcourt.

Are you being serious? How JJJ for Bridges is approaching a steal. No knockt on Bridges. But JJJ is the best player on Memphis. His 3 pointer improved drastically and we already know he's an elite very athletic defender and still very young. Does it make us better? Hell F@cking yeah does. But why would Memphis trade JJJ to us?

It may need to be KAT for JJJ with an agreement to extend with us.

If the Knicks are retaining Thibs (bad idea) then they should do this.

At least JJJ provides defense and his offensive game is emerging.
KAT is very good on defense but he's hardly dominant. Is that worth 60 million per?

Memphis might like the spacing, ability to compete, and still be able to reset financially a little sooner.

Ah, who am I kidding.

Knicks only moves are bring back PJ Tucker; adding Taj and Kyle Lowry.

[KnixinSix]

Are you being serious? How JJJ for Bridges is approaching a steal. No knockt on Bridges. But JJJ is the best player on Memphis. His 3 pointer improved drastically and we already know he's an elite very athletic defender and still very young. Does it make us better? Hell F@cking yeah does. But why would Memphis trade JJJ to us?

It may need to be KAT for JJJ with an agreement to extend with us.

If the Knicks are retaining Thibs (bad idea) then they should do this.

At least JJJ provides defense and his offensive game is emerging.
KAT is very good on defense but he's hardly dominant. Is that worth 60 million per?

Memphis might like the spacing, ability to compete, and still be able to reset financially a little sooner.

Ah, who am I kidding.

Knicks only moves are bring back PJ Tucker; adding Taj and Kyle Lowry.

Thibs and KAT simply will not work. One or the other absolutely has to go.

KAT wants to stay here. He loves it. But is a bad fit with Thibs. He is also super close with Rose.

Bridges is in theory a great fit for a Thibs team but Bridges didn't like the way he was used by Thibs on multiple fronts.

I feel like at mimium 1 of the Thibs, Bridges, KAT trifecta are gone. Depending what presents itself it could be 2 of the 3 and maybe (albeit a smaller chance) all 3.

[thebuzzardman]

It may need to be KAT for JJJ with an agreement to extend with us.

If the Knicks are retaining Thibs (bad idea) then they should do this.

At least JJJ provides defense and his offensive game is emerging.
KAT is very good on defense but he's hardly dominant. Is that worth 60 million per?

Memphis might like the spacing, ability to compete, and still be able to reset financially a little sooner.

Ah, who am I kidding.

Knicks only moves are bring back PJ Tucker; adding Taj and Kyle Lowry.

Thibs and KAT simply will not work. One or the other absolutely has to go.

KAT wants to stay here. He loves it. But is a bad fit with Thibs. He is also super close with Rose.

Bridges is in theory a great fit for a Thibs team but Bridges didn't like the way he was used by Thibs on multiple fronts.

I feel like at mimium 1 of the Thibs, Bridges, KAT trifecta are gone. Depending what presents itself it could be 2 of the 3 and maybe (albeit a smaller chance) all 3.

Agreed. One of them is gone for sure.

[KnixinSix]

If the Knicks are retaining Thibs (bad idea) then they should do this.

At least JJJ provides defense and his offensive game is emerging.
KAT is very good on defense but he's hardly dominant. Is that worth 60 million per?

Memphis might like the spacing, ability to compete, and still be able to reset financially a little sooner.

Ah, who am I kidding.

Knicks only moves are bring back PJ Tucker; adding Taj and Kyle Lowry.

Thibs and KAT simply will not work. One or the other absolutely has to go.

KAT wants to stay here. He loves it. But is a bad fit with Thibs. He is also super close with Rose.

Bridges is in theory a great fit for a Thibs team but Bridges didn't like the way he was used by Thibs on multiple fronts.

I feel like at mimium 1 of the Thibs, Bridges, KAT trifecta are gone. Depending what presents itself it could be 2 of the 3 and maybe (albeit a smaller chance) all 3.

Agreed. One of them is gone for sure.

I love the 3 way Minny, Memphis, NY JJJ/Bane/Divo trade idea with us sending out KAT, Bridges, McBride and other smaller pieces to get it done. Its almost perfect roster construction even if you kept Thibs.

You could slight alter it if they want to keep KAT to Bridges(24.9), Mitchell Robinson (12.9) and 3 2nd picks for JJJ (23.4), Brandon Clark (12.5). Mitch's defensive dominance would be very appealing to Memphis as a pair with Edey.

From Google:
Jackson Jr. (JJJ), a basketball player, and Leon Rose, a former sports agent and current president of the New York Knicks, have a connection. Rose used to represent JJJ as a sports agent. This relationship helped establish a familiarity between Rose and JJJ's father, Jaren Jackson Sr., who was also a basketball player. In fact, when Rose took over the Knicks, he had a pre-existing relationship with several top young players, including JJJ. According to a post on X, the Knicks have kept it familiar, suggesting a continuation of this relationship.




Rotation(minutes):
JJJ(20)/KAT(20)/Huk(8)
KAT(12)/OG(20)/JJJ(12)/Hart(4)
OG(12)/Hart(20)/Shamet(8)
Divo(25)/Hart(10)/Shamet(5)/Wright(8)
Brunson(33)/Divo(5)/Wright(10)

Rebounding/big defense lineup:
Huk
JJJ
OG
Hart
Brunson/Divo/Wright

Scoring lineup:
JJJ
KAT
OG
Divo/Shamet
Brunson

Small defense lineup:
JJJ
OG
Hart
Divo/Wright
Wright/Brunson

[whocares1]

A win or 2 is kind of meaningless with these metrics which are imperfect to begin with.

And you’re acting like there’s no market for Kd while there clearly will be.

Do the suns even have anything much to give ? It all went in the Durant trade.

I hate that KD is so old but he slides into KATs role perfectly. Durant this year got 63 touches per game to KATs 60 and believe it or not their post-up volume was shockingly close. The key difference between the two being time of possession and dribbles per touch. When you think of all those times the Knicks could never make an entry pass to KAT while consistently asking him to create from 23+ feet out…that’s sort of KDs world even at his age. When you factor in his playmaking the fit would be seamless. Again…the issue is he’s 37 but I’m with you. Get me a championship tomorrow I can’t be worrying about whether Orlando finally acquires an elite guard in three years. We need to get to the finals next year period. Losing to Siakam is ridiculous to me.

I would like to add these other points:

1. Although at age 37, he is still Kevin Durant. If y'all think he will just fall off the cliff if he is healthy and only due to age, you're thinking of the wrong sport. That's the NFL and MLB.

2. Contract length - if this doesn't work out then we will be a player for a significant FA or two in 2027. KAT doesn't give us that option of flexibility until 2028. I'm pretty sure if traded, KD wants an extension similar to Jimmy Butler. I don't know if I want to stomach additional 2 years of KD with Butler's money. If it was 2 years 35-45 per year where do I sign up.

3. KD has enough moxie to demand the ball during crunch time. I love Brunson but we need another crunch time scorer. We just saw KAT being iced out this whole year during crunch time

4. KD is a better help defender and perimeter defender than KAT

5. KD takes more 3s than KAT... 6.0 vs. 4.7.

6. This can only be for a 1v1 trade or they need to add another player BECAUSE you are getting a younger player that is locked in for x amount of years.

I think on paper you seriously consider the trade but a 37 year old for an all nba player in his prime off the first season you get him is just too much risk in my opinion.

[MrDollarBills]

Is it in Brooklyn? Because that's where he'll be playing.

Reverse jinx is now in full effect.

Giannis is coming here. Bookmark this post!!!

Only this time I mean it. They have the picks.

Giannis
Hart
OG
Mikal
Brunson


That starting lineup sucks. Lacks spacing. Giannis going to do secondary ballhandling and pass to the open Hart?

Good plan.

If you want to get eliminated in the first or second round

Brooklyn has a war chest of draft assets but two things:

1) there is nothing there for Giannis to play with. I doubt he demands a trade there.

2) Milwaukee isn't going to tank.

[KnixinSix]

Reverse jinx is now in full effect.

Giannis is coming here. Bookmark this post!!!

Only this time I mean it. They have the picks.

Giannis
Hart
OG
Mikal
Brunson


That starting lineup sucks. Lacks spacing. Giannis going to do secondary ballhandling and pass to the open Hart?

Good plan.

If you want to get eliminated in the first or second round

Brooklyn has a war chest of draft assets but two things:

1) there is nothing there for Giannis to play with. I doubt he demands a trade there.

2) Milwaukee isn't going to tank.

The Toronto buzz is real for Giannis and it was confirmed there is mutual interest. They can make a substantial offer of picks and Barnes + which Milwaukee might like.

[TheGreenArrow]

Knicks trade- KAT
Pelicans trade- Murphy, Alvarado, Olynyk, 2026 1st

Knicks After
Brunson/Alvarado/Kolek
Bridges/Mcbride/ McCullar
Anunoby/Hart
Murphy/Dadiet
Robinson/Olynyk/Hakporti

They put 3 and D wings all around JB and Mitch back in the starting spot to navigate the pick and rolls. Its not the star power that KAT has but it will be a more functional team with Murphy coming into his own as a budding star. Also huge financially as it puts them at about $9 mil under the 1st apron to make some moves in free agency.

Throw in duece and and a 2nd and I think we can get herb jones also!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Polk377]

Knicks trade- KAT
Pelicans trade- Murphy, Alvarado, Olynyk, 2026 1st

Knicks After
Brunson/Alvarado/Kolek
Bridges/Mcbride/ McCullar
Anunoby/Hart
Murphy/Dadiet
Robinson/Olynyk/Hakporti

They put 3 and D wings all around JB and Mitch back in the starting spot to navigate the pick and rolls. Its not the star power that KAT has but it will be a more functional team with Murphy coming into his own as a budding star. Also huge financially as it puts them at about $9 mil under the 1st apron to make some moves in free agency.

Throw in duece and and a 2nd and I think we can get herb jones also!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont mind that

[WargamesX]

Kd for Kat makes the most sense. Kd was the best iso scorer in the league this year which fits Thibs. He replaces the play making that Randle provided and the shooting that Donte did. He’s also a good perimeter defender. He’s older but our window is now. The league doesn’t stand still. Other teams will rise up. The east is as open as it’s ever gonna be. 3 years from now and who knows where we are in the pecking order. Can’t waste another year hoping that we can make Kat and Jalen work.

I just can’t shake the “old player goes to Knicks and does squat” aspect of this trade. If he comes here and his age finally hits him, we’re not getting past the second round again.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Are you being serious? How JJJ for Bridges is approaching a steal. No knockt on Bridges. But JJJ is the best player on Memphis. His 3 pointer improved drastically and we already know he's an elite very athletic defender and still very young. Does it make us better? Hell F@cking yeah does. But why would Memphis trade JJJ to us?

It may need to be KAT for JJJ with an agreement to extend with us.

If the Knicks are retaining Thibs (bad idea) then they should do this.

At least JJJ provides defense and his offensive game is emerging.
KAT is very good on defense but he's hardly dominant. Is that worth 60 million per?

Memphis might like the spacing, ability to compete, and still be able to reset financially a little sooner.

Ah, who am I kidding.

Knicks only moves are bring back PJ Tucker; adding Taj and Kyle Lowry.

I mean, I know Taj is a running joke/meme, but he's actually a useful piece unlike PJ. It's kinda like Brook Lopez. Players who will eventually retire through boredom with their minor roles rather than really being displaced from the league.

fwiw, offence/defense

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Kd for Kat makes the most sense. Kd was the best iso scorer in the league this year which fits Thibs. He replaces the play making that Randle provided and the shooting that Donte did. He’s also a good perimeter defender. He’s older but our window is now. The league doesn’t stand still. Other teams will rise up. The east is as open as it’s ever gonna be. 3 years from now and who knows where we are in the pecking order. Can’t waste another year hoping that we can make Kat and Jalen work.

I just can’t shake the “old player goes to Knicks and does squat” aspect of this trade. If he comes here and his age finally hits him, we’re not getting past the second round again.

But that's fine. This year the Knicks lucked into getting past the second round. But their real level was ... getting to the second round. They were one of the top 4 teams in the East, but not one of the top 2. I mean, for sure, they went to the ECF, but that's an illusion if one wants to be realistic about what they should do going forward. ... "Don't be results orientated."

[NoDopeOnSundays]

KD will be 37 before the start of the season, he has averaged 61 games per season the last 3. If you had a coaching staff that would treat him like the Clippers treat Kawhi, kept his minutes in check between 30-33mpg, didn't play him in B2Bs on some days, and basically did everything in their power to get him to the playoffs healthy and fresh, then it would make a little more sense. But, trading for KD, and having Thibs coach him? He will burn out just like he has with the Suns and Nets.


I also feel like we're a week or two away from people floating PG13 trades as well.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

KD will be 37 before the start of the season, he has averaged 61 games per season the last 3. If you had a coaching staff that would treat him like the Clippers treat Kawhi, kept his minutes in check between 30-33mpg, didn't play him in B2Bs on some days, and basically did everything in their power to get him to the playoffs healthy and fresh, then it would make a little more sense. But, trading for KD, and having Thibs coach him? He will burn out just like he has with the Suns and Nets.


I also feel like we're a week or two away from people floating PG13 trades as well.

legit lol'd re PG.

I think trade KAT for KD and fire Thibs into the Suns is the way forward. The JJJ for KAT trades also look reasonable for both sides. Again. The Knicks need to get out from under Thibs.

Fwiw, even though it's not realistic, I still want Splitter for HC.

[Buttah304]

KD will be 37 before the start of the season, he has averaged 61 games per season the last 3. If you had a coaching staff that would treat him like the Clippers treat Kawhi, kept his minutes in check between 30-33mpg, didn't play him in B2Bs on some days, and basically did everything in their power to get him to the playoffs healthy and fresh, then it would make a little more sense. But, trading for KD, and having Thibs coach him? He will burn out just like he has with the Suns and Nets.


I also feel like we're a week or two away from people floating PG13 trades as well.

It’s amazing that through all of our trade discussions somehow Josh Hart feels like he’s dodging bullets. I love the guy but his defense is bad and he is a terrible shooter who has somehow evolved into an unwilling one. From a scheming perspective teams will be covering him with a C for all 82 and we will try to award him the minutes MVP again. NDOS fix this