Breaking: Tom Fired

[Galvationknicks]

this list is a little crazy

Why is Kenny atkinson on here????

God I wish

Why is Steven A on this list lmao

[DaGawd]

Respectfully im done witht he nova sht.

Keep jay wright away from the knicks pls

josh hart is now extremely tradable

[Iron Mantis]

Leon cashed in all of the chips to assemble this roster. And it is a championship level roster.

There was no way he was going to continue to let Tom mismanage what he put together. Leon's own job would be in jeopardy.

We getting Spo, right?

[Jeff Van Gully]

Brunson knew...make no mistake...thats why he repeated the question at the post game press conference

Doubt he knew. Seems like a genuine guy. I’m sure Brunson is upset but in the same way like trading someone like Donte, Brunson is committed to the ultimate task of winning a title and all that it comes with.

Dont be fooled by Brunson...His father has schooled him from 5 years old about the NBA and how it works. Hell, he might of had a conversation with Thibs. Brunson had to keep it quiet and he owes his loyalty to the organization first before the fans...

be at the dinner table like, "i did this to you. who's weak NOW, eric!"

[8516knicks]

You're not soft for having empathy for Tom, Guano. I feel bad for him because this job was everything to him.

Yeah he's owed 30mil but man when you lose something you love, it can destroy you. I hope he will be alright mentally.

Yeah, he loved this sht with everything. It was his true passion and im glad that he was able to live his dream job and taking us to the ecf was one of the greatest experiencing I've had watching this team. his "shortcomings" and "ffailures" lead to his demise here but his overall tenure should be celebrated. He is a knicks legend.

And yeah I hope he finds peace. He fcking deserves it.

Yeah man.

Again, I was very critical of Tom this year. I feel like everything was a step backwards. But at the end of the day we gotta keep in mind that there's a human being at the center of this.

Can't help but feel a little sad for all he's done. Yearly improvement to the ECF this year and with one bounce of the ball, could have made the finals. This was his year. And will stand as his best year for all time to come now.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Respectfully im done witht he nova sht.

Keep jay wright away from the knicks pls

josh hart is now extremely tradable

oh, errbody can go.

firing thibs couldn't be a clearer message about accountability.

[snadler]

I will say this again, many of you place too much responsibility on the coach, and again, Thibs was far from perfect, but when you watch Brunson and KAT come up small, you watch the struggles they had especially with KaT and his brain lapses on defense, you see the lack of shooting, the lack of another ball handler to help Brunson out, to see a team without the athletes to keep up with the pacers. Again, to blame the coach for the loss roster flaws is just flat out wrong. Again with ALL OF THAT SAID, I trust Leon and his decision making. I am disappointed Thibs is gone, but I WILL
KEEP SAYING THIS, a new coach WILL NOT FIX THE ROSTER FLAWS..but now this is step one, i will keep saying this a new coach deserves to not have KAT and brunson..at least give the new coach a chance

I agree with a lot of the sentiment. However in this case the coach was responsible for the quite decent bench not being used and/or developed properly. Live by inflexibly grinding 52 wins a season with the starters all playing over 40 minutes a game/die by it. Even without talking about the actual plays and so on.

Decent bench? Really?

[The KnicksFix]

we gon see.

i don't know what to think right now.

He lost this series in game 2 of the pacers series, the meltdown in game 1 was one thing, but game 2 was a winnable game. He started the 4th quarter with cam Payne, we went into the quarter tied. We then go down 6. A timeout is called, we come out with the same lineup which included Cam Payne, we go down 12.

I said this earlier in the threads. He lost the job when he lost Game 2. A lot of inner circles and front office statisticians did NOT like that.

SEE YA THIBS! Just like I called it

these non sequiturs, man. so hard to follow.

What’s so hard to follow? He made the wrong adjustment specifically in game 2 of the series against the pacers
I can’t be any clearer than that

The job was not lost in game 1 when we blew the lead
Or even game 4 where he didn’t play delon and shamet (even though he played them in game 3 and won)

HIS JOB WAS LOST WHEN HE LOST THAT FOURTH QUARTER IN GAME 2 IN A WINNABLE GAME IN FRONT OF KINCKS BRASS AND DOLAN

I said it then, and that was the rumbling as to why he was fired

[aq_ua]

No roster is perfect and good coaches will adapt to what they have.

We've said since Christmas that what Tom was doing was asinine and we got told we were crazy. Now look.

All I can say is, I hope you’re right. It was super clear coming into the season that our bench would be paper thin, and this was going to be a year that our starters had to carry us through and hopefully make the incremental bench adjustments this offseason.

Everyone saw it and accepted it at the time. The only thing that changed was the moving goalposts - Thibs became a victim of his own success and outperformance beyond the overall construct of this roster. We’ll now get to see if the expectations were wrong then or now.

The goalposts did move, but I think the front office saw a lot of bad things all season long and that Indiana series was where the rubber met the road per say.

But however...there were players on the bench that could have played all year long. There was zero reason for this team to run a 7 man rotation in DECEMBER

Except that was the time we were still trying to integrate KAT after still trying to figure out Mikal’s role in the offense, all the while trying to win games and not having Landry Shamet or Delon Wright on the roster at the time - the only two guys that actually contributed off the bench in addition to our core seven. There’s all sorts of narratives to play into - again I hope you’re right and Thibs was the biggest problem.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

I dont want Mike Malone. Just a Thibs clone prioritizing vets and playing 7-8 deep. Dude was lucky he had Jokic to save his ass and win him a chip. Get me a young hungry coach or a guy that knows his Xs and Os. This team is far too talented to be playing 90s style basketball. We should be the highest scoring team in the league with our guys.

No one thinks that Denver championship is on Malone. Jokic is not only the best basketball player I've watched, but also appears to be one of the smarter coaches.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Respectfully im done witht he nova sht.

Keep jay wright away from the knicks pls

josh hart is now extremely tradable

oh, errbody can go.

firing thibs couldn't be a clearer message about accountability.

Jalen is the only safe one.

[BadNewsBarnes]

You have to think the Thibs replacement will have something to do with CAA...

[JBreezeNY]

Here Coach Bryant explains elite spacing https://youtu.be/osY0NWe4M0w?si=Ch4JFtPWZCjGi7de

What’s his thoughts on defense.

He implements zone, the same technique that won game 3 for the Cavs against the pacers
Atkinson went away from that in game 4

A coach that uses zone???? Hell yes bring him back.

[snadler]

SAS on sportscenter throwing out the Giannis rumors that could this move been made to make the knicks more desirable??

[HEZI]

!

My man HEZI prolly in shambles right now!

As long as the roster issue is addressed I always said it doesn’t matter if Thibs is the coach or not. I’m always down for upgrades no matter what it is, coach or player, it I’m not naive to believe the coach was the issue when the roster has major issues. Change the coach and make some moves and let’s get back to it next year

[BKlutch]

Just don't screw this up. Thibs made a ton of questionable choices this season, so I'm not mad at it. But I thought he did enough to warrant one more season with the FO tweaking the roster for him.

Get me a legit coach...the last thing I want is another decade of hiring mediocrity.

I disagree. He's maximized in game results over his period as HC while the FO have fought, not always correctly, to maximize season long/playoff long results.

Give him flowers for doing what he aims to do well if you like.

However, that's not what the Knicks needed or need.

[Obviously, Thibs was, day by day, leagues and leagues ahead of the likes of Fizdale ... but that's not really a hurdle to be estimated.]

Sadly, you're right.

[Guano]

You're not soft for having empathy for Tom, Guano. I feel bad for him because this job was everything to him.

Yeah he's owed 30mil but man when you lose something you love, it can destroy you. I hope he will be alright mentally.

Yeah, he loved this sht with everything. It was his true passion and im glad that he was able to live his dream job and taking us to the ecf was one of the greatest experiencing I've had watching this team. his "shortcomings" and "ffailures" lead to his demise here but his overall tenure should be celebrated. He is a knicks legend.

And yeah I hope he finds peace. He fcking deserves it.

He's getting $30 million over the next couple of years, if he wants to switch bank accounts with me and coach an AAU team in my name, I'll do it happily.

Man, he lost his dream job. His passion in life. That sucks. The money helps but doesn't change that.

But congrats you got your wish. Hope it works out cause if it doesn't youre getting COOOOOOOOOKED.

[Jeff Van Gully]

He lost this series in game 2 of the pacers series, the meltdown in game 1 was one thing, but game 2 was a winnable game. He started the 4th quarter with cam Payne, we went into the quarter tied. We then go down 6. A timeout is called, we come out with the same lineup which included Cam Payne, we go down 12.

I said this earlier in the threads. He lost the job when he lost Game 2. A lot of inner circles and front office statisticians did NOT like that.

SEE YA THIBS! Just like I called it

these non sequitirs, man. so hard to follow.

What’s so hard to follow? He made the wrong adjustment specifically in game 2 of the series against the pacers
I can’t be any clearer than that

The job was not lost in game 1 when we blew the lead
Or even game 4 where he didn’t play delon and shamet (even though he played them in game 3 and won)

HIS JOB WAS LOST WHEN HE LOST THAT FOURTH QUARTER IN A WINNABLE GAME IN FRONT OF KINCKS BRASS AND DOLAN

I said it then, and that was the rumbling as to why he was fired

do you know what a non sequitir is?

[Pr0nzingis]

Is Leon the best Knicks GM ever? He did it!

[Gravy]

Wow not really expected. They should have someone in mind if they did this