2025 NBA Draft (2)

[KramerDSP]

I would NOT be looking to make a fair trade involving #3 and if I were Morey I would let that be known from the rip. Whoever wants it is going to have to pay out the ass for it.

#7 + Jones + best of Pels/Bucks 2026 1st + right to swap worse of our 1st/LAC 1st with Pelicans in 2028.

Wonder if Sixers could use the #7 and Bucks 2026 pick to jump up to #2 if Spurs go for Giannis.

And take Ace? lol Dumars would never live that down. But it makes sense. Spurs get Kamauch at #7

[Black Mage]

#7 + Jones + best of Pels/Bucks 2026 1st + right to swap worse of our 1st/LAC 1st with Pelicans in 2028.

Wonder if Sixers could use the #7 and Bucks 2026 pick to jump up to #2 if Spurs go for Giannis.

And take Ace? lol Dumars would never live that down. But it makes sense. Spurs get Kamauch at #7

I was thinking Harper; but man would that be funny to jump back to 2, steal Ace AND still have the future pick swap.

[Jojothewhale]

Some have been fair, others not so much. Even in the national and podcast discord. No need for you to internalize that, because it's a fact that some don't give him the benefit of being young with the ability to improve.

The people who haven't been fair are the same clout chasing podcast and TV idiots that do this for every player. There's no need to give them the attention they want.

I'm not internalizing anything. I'm directly calling Ace super fans as a whole whiny children because they're acting like it. Just disagree on prospects like we do EVERY year. Why is this so hard?

It's a fact that people over analyzed his height rather than his wingspan and reach.

That can't be a fact. It's the definition of an opinion. Height and wingspan both matter. We all get to assign values as we see fit. Again with the telling people what they have to think. Weak.

[Negrodamus]

I was 5x as brutal on Lonzo Ball and Ben Simmons and I don't remember a fraction of the pushback that I received when doing my evaluation of Bailey which was not really any different than every other year. It's definitely been an interesting pre-draft process.

[M2J]

Some have been fair, others not so much. Even in the national and podcast discord. No need for you to internalize that, because it's a fact that some don't give him the benefit of being young with the ability to improve.

The people who haven't been fair are the same clout chasing podcast and TV idiots that do this for every player. There's no need to give them the attention they want.

I'm not internalizing anything. I'm directly calling Ace super fans as a whole whiny children because they're acting like it. Just disagree on prospects like we do EVERY year. Why is this so hard?

It's a fact that people over analyzed his height rather than his wingspan and reach.

That can't be a fact. It's the definition of an opinion. Height and wingspan both matter. We all get to assign values as we see fit. Again with the telling people what they have to think. Weak.

I'm not telling you how to think...and I'm not referring to you, just like you don't speak for the others that have over analyzed on this board that I am talking about and essentially don't think he can improve. Either you're speaking for them or internalizing it.... Pick

It is also a fact that people have pretended like Ace is the only player that can in listed under his height and it's a huge deal. Cooper Flagg did too and it's a fact. I can definitely say that the top of someone's head means very little.... If you want to dispute that....I want to laugh

[Jojothewhale]

Some have been fair, others not so much. Even in the national and podcast discord. No need for you to internalize that, because it's a fact that some don't give him the benefit of being young with the ability to improve.

The people who haven't been fair are the same clout chasing podcast and TV idiots that do this for every player. There's no need to give them the attention they want.

I'm not internalizing anything. I'm directly calling Ace super fans as a whole whiny children because they're acting like it. Just disagree on prospects like we do EVERY year. Why is this so hard?

It's a fact that people over analyzed his height rather than his wingspan and reach.

That can't be a fact. It's the definition of an opinion. Height and wingspan both matter. We all get to assign values as we see fit. Again with the telling people what they have to think. Weak.

I'm not telling you how to think...and I'm not referring to you, just like you don't speak for the others that have over analyzed on this board that I am talking about and essentially don't think he can improve. Either you're speaking for them or internalizing it.... Pick

It is also a fact that people have pretended like Ace is the only player that can in listed under his height and it's a huge deal. Cooper Flagg did too and it's a fact. I can definitely say that the top of someone's head means very little.... If you want to dispute that....I want to laugh

I'm speaking for me. I'm not picking anything except who's not worth my time, like you're rapidly approaching.

Everyone who paid attention to Ace going back as far as high school knew his height was inflated. That happens a lot. Not only is it not a big deal, it's literally nothing. We knew this was his rough height. It's like a Slot WR who runs a poor 40 time. We already knew that wasn't a strength. Don't count it twice. The only relevance it has is when people used it to comp him to Durant because those few inches are a big difference.

[the_process]

I would NOT be looking to make a fair trade involving #3 and if I were Morey I would let that be known from the rip. Whoever wants it is going to have to pay out the ass for it.

#7 + Jones + best of Pels/Bucks 2026 1st + right to swap worse of our 1st/LAC 1st with Pelicans in 2028.

This would absolutely be a fleecing.

I'm here for it.

I would really like to include Embiid for Zion and PG for CJ too. Let's just end this charade and get to building a new team.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Of course we're sending mixed signals. It's Daryl Morey for Christmas sakes. As much as I've advocated for Bailey, he scares the crap outta me, and it's the Fultz/Simmons vibes he gives off. As if he's got some subterranean issues that will suddenly seep through the Philly Frostline and on to the court. At which point he becomes eclipsed and totally peeled back only to reveal to us a boy who has awful ADHD and a prescription for Ritalin that simply does nothing for him. His Pokémon collection has always been the core of who he is and he plays Pikmin 2 every Halloween night in ritualistic fashion. All of these traits are fine, but the court skills do not translate and he suddenly forgets how to shoot once he encounters Evan Turner shopping for avocados in a grocery store. These fears are legitimate and they've crept in like a sneaky cancer that is no longer undetected. As messed up as I am as a human, I don't want to miss on this pick. I'm sure the guys making the actual decisions feel double that. The fact that he has haters (WADR) already is terrifying. Negrodamus and 76ciology have turned it into a crusade and I'm sure spells have been casted as well. It's probably best if we stay away, but I'm too am going to believe and support until failure. All I personally wanted was for us to keep the 6th pick in the draft. Once we made it to 3rd, I initially felt Bailey was a shoe in fit, but bad mojo, and Ben Fultz vibes have Okafor'd there way into my brain and have left me taking like Evan Turner. Shawn Bradley, Sharone Wright, and Tim Thomas have haunted me for 30 years. We once traded the opportunity for Brad Daugherty for a coke head named Roy Hinson. This team has drafted historically bad in the lottery over the last 40 years.
Trade back down and be done. Or...Stay at three and just take whoever you want regardless of their mocked position. Happens every year. In fact, I fully expect Morey to do the unpredictable.

[Sixersftw]

I was 5x as brutal on Lonzo Ball and Ben Simmons and I don't remember a fraction of the pushback that I received when doing my evaluation of Bailey which was not really any different than every other year. It's definitely been an interesting pre-draft process.

Not to mention the draft threads were much harsher back then since we were all laser focused on the draft/college ball pre-Embiid.

Some of the **** we said about prospects was straight up uncalled for. Also, I would have killed a man for Hezonja back then. I still would but that's neither here nor there.

[Negrodamus]

Hey man, I just don’t like the kid’s stats. There is no Ace crusade, I’ve been actively avoiding discussing his game because it clearly has ruffled everyone’s feathers. I don’t know if you all are part of his PR campaign or what, but bravo to him; I’ve never seen such staunch supporters for a random draft prospect on the heels of a forgettable college season. I guess people liked Fultz and Simmons a lot too.

[Black Mage]

Of course we're sending mixed signals. It's Daryl Morey for Christmas sakes. As much as I've advocated for Bailey, he scares the crap outta me, and it's the Fultz/Simmons vibes he gives off. As if he's got some subterranean issues that will suddenly seep through the Philly Frostline and on to the court. At which point he becomes eclipsed and totally peeled back only to reveal to us a boy who has awful ADHD and a prescription for Ritalin that simply does nothing for him. His Pokémon collection has always been the core of who he is and he plays Pikmin 2 every Halloween night in ritualistic fashion. All of these traits are fine, but the court skills do not translate and he suddenly forgets how to shoot once he encounters Evan Turner stopping for avocados in a grocery store. These fears are legitimate and they've crept in like a sneaky cancer that is no longer undetected. As messed up as I am as a human, I don't want to miss on this pick. I'm sure the guys making the actual decisions feel double that. The fact that he has haters (WADR) already is terrifying. Negrodamus and 76ciology have turned it into a crusade and I'm sure spells have been casted as well. It's probably best if we stay away, but I'm too am going to believe and support until failure. All I personally wanted was for us to keep the 6th pick in the draft. Once we made it to 3rd, I initially felt Bailey was a shoe in fit, but bad mojo, and Ben Fultz vibes have Okafor'd there way into my brain and have left me taking like Evan Turner. Shawn Bradley, Sharone Wright, and Tim Thomas have haunted me for 30 years. We once traded the opportunity for Brad Daugherty for a coke head named Roy Hinson. This team has drafted historically bad in the lottery over the last 40 years.
Trade back down and be done. Or...Stay at three and just take whoever you want regardless of their mocked position. Happens every year. In fact, I fully expect Morey to do the unpredictable.

I read that the Sixers since Morey took over have 4 questions at the top of their prospect interview questionnaire:

1. Do you like trashing hotel rooms?

2. Do you like street racing over bridges?

3. Do you know what COD means and what's your Gamertag?

4. Do you love eating Chik-Fil-A?

If any prospects answer yes to one of the above they are walked out of the facility.

[the_process]

Of course we're sending mixed signals. It's Daryl Morey for Christmas sakes. As much as I've advocated for Bailey, he scares the crap outta me, and it's the Fultz/Simmons vibes he gives off. As if he's got some subterranean issues that will suddenly seep through the Philly Frostline and on to the court. At which point he becomes eclipsed and totally peeled back only to reveal to us a boy who has awful ADHD and a prescription for Ritalin that simply does nothing for him. His Pokémon collection has always been the core of who he is and he plays Pikmin 2 every Halloween night in ritualistic fashion. All of these traits are fine, but the court skills do not translate and he suddenly forgets how to shoot once he encounters Evan Turner stopping for avocados in a grocery store. These fears are legitimate and they've crept in like a sneaky cancer that is no longer undetected. As messed up as I am as a human, I don't want to miss on this pick. I'm sure the guys making the actual decisions feel double that. The fact that he has haters (WADR) already is terrifying. Negrodamus and 76ciology have turned it into a crusade and I'm sure spells have been casted as well. It's probably best if we stay away, but I'm too am going to believe and support until failure. All I personally wanted was for us to keep the 6th pick in the draft. Once we made it to 3rd, I initially felt Bailey was a shoe in fit, but bad mojo, and Ben Fultz vibes have Okafor'd there way into my brain and have left me taking like Evan Turner. Shawn Bradley, Sharone Wright, and Tim Thomas have haunted me for 30 years. We once traded the opportunity for Brad Daugherty for a coke head named Roy Hinson. This team has drafted historically bad in the lottery over the last 40 years.
Trade back down and be done. Or...Stay at three and just take whoever you want regardless of their mocked position. Happens every year. In fact, I fully expect Morey to do the unpredictable.

I read that the Sixers since Morey took over have 4 questions at the top of their prospect interview questionnaire:

1. Do you like trashing hotel rooms?

2. Do you like street racing over bridges?

3. Do you know what COD means and what's your Gamertag?

4. Do you love eating Chik-Fil-A?

If any prospects answer yes to one of the above they are walked out of the facility.

It was a rental house Noel trashed IIIRC.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Hey man, I just don’t like the kid’s stats. There is no Ace crusade, I’ve been actively avoiding discussing his game because it clearly has ruffled everyone’s feathers. I don’t know if you all are part of his PR campaign or what, but bravo to him; I’ve never seen such staunch supporters for a random draft prospect on the heels of a forgettable college season. I guess people liked Fultz and Simmons a lot too.

Dude it was joke. The point being that there are people that are against the idea of drafting him and they have explained with legitimate reasoning. I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU PROPS BRO...Relax. I don't necessarily see what you seen in terms of his game, but I see other traits so to speak that scream stay away. Three weeks ago, I was all for the idea of taking him. Now I'm more on the side of just trading down a few spots and taking a player we like there. That is all dude.

[Black Mage]

Hey man, I just don’t like the kid’s stats. There is no Ace crusade, I’ve been actively avoiding discussing his game because it clearly has ruffled everyone’s feathers. I don’t know if you all are part of his PR campaign or what, but bravo to him; I’ve never seen such staunch supporters for a random draft prospect on the heels of a forgettable college season. I guess people liked Fultz and Simmons a lot too.

To be fair to Fultz; he did have good statistical numbers in college. Don't know when the "hitch" happened, but his shot and mechanics were definitely different by summer league. The mental side of things is something we really can't get a read on b/c we're not given access to the player like teams are.

Ben, I'll admit I believe I was pro-Ben over Ingram and I put way too much weight in trusting that Brett gave us inside intel on Ben's mental makeup and desire and Brett would be able to give Ben tough love. Had I known Brett was going to coddle Ben b/c he was an emo-cripple boy, yeah I'd have punted. Again things we wouldn't know looking from the outside in.

I've put a lot more weight into the intangible basket since the Shai draft where I pegged him as the guy I'd want after Knox (yep missed on Knox, but got SGA down). Since then guys like Maxey and McCain have ticked that box where you see a team's trajectory altered by their presence entering the lineup.

It's why I just can't quit VJ b/c his FIBA impact was very real and it felt like a Shai/Maxey/McCain type trajectory change. Kon is the other guy that ticks that box with the way he stepped up to keep Duke afloat when Flagg got hurt in the tournament. The problem I have with Kon is athleticism and length which is a bigger deal breaker at 3 than it was at 16 for McCain.

[M2J]

The people who haven't been fair are the same clout chasing podcast and TV idiots that do this for every player. There's no need to give them the attention they want.

I'm not internalizing anything. I'm directly calling Ace super fans as a whole whiny children because they're acting like it. Just disagree on prospects like we do EVERY year. Why is this so hard?



That can't be a fact. It's the definition of an opinion. Height and wingspan both matter. We all get to assign values as we see fit. Again with the telling people what they have to think. Weak.

I'm not telling you how to think...and I'm not referring to you, just like you don't speak for the others that have over analyzed on this board that I am talking about and essentially don't think he can improve. Either you're speaking for them or internalizing it.... Pick

It is also a fact that people have pretended like Ace is the only player that can in listed under his height and it's a huge deal. Cooper Flagg did too and it's a fact. I can definitely say that the top of someone's head means very little.... If you want to dispute that....I want to laugh

I'm speaking for me. I'm not picking anything except who's not worth my time, like you're rapidly approaching.

Everyone who paid attention to Ace going back as far as high school knew his height was inflated. That happens a lot. Not only is it not a big deal, it's literally nothing. We knew this was his rough height. It's like a Slot WR who runs a poor 40 time. We already knew that wasn't a strength. Don't count it twice. The only relevance it has is when people used it to comp him to Durant because those few inches are a big difference.

I don't remember anyone quoting you or naming you, therefore you internalized, sorry you can't own up to that. Use your time wisely... I'm not getting steered into a Durant comparison discussion after you started with your abilities to weight height vs length.

[Negrodamus]

Hey man, I just don’t like the kid’s stats. There is no Ace crusade, I’ve been actively avoiding discussing his game because it clearly has ruffled everyone’s feathers. I don’t know if you all are part of his PR campaign or what, but bravo to him; I’ve never seen such staunch supporters for a random draft prospect on the heels of a forgettable college season. I guess people liked Fultz and Simmons a lot too.

Dude it was joke. The point being that there are people that are against the idea of drafting him and they have explained with legitimate reasoning. I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU PROPS BRO...Relax. I don't necessarily see what you seen in terms of his game, but I see other traits so to speak that scream stay away. Three weeks ago, I was all for the idea of taking him. Now I'm more on the side of just trading down a few spots and taking a player we like there. That is all dude.

My bad, I’m usually good with catching jokes, but I’m on edge after the entire Board of the Ace Bailey Fan Club came for my head for not liking that he didn’t draw enough fouls.

[ProcessDoctor]

Watch on YouTube

Man, this was a really good watch. Listen to how he talks about Ace and Dylan. What he's alluding to with Ace definitely worries me.

I'd like to change my vote.

[mjkvol]

Why can't we just get the 2nd pick so we can fail in unanimous peace:

DLO
Ingram
Lonzo
Jabari Parker

Gonna be hilarious when the Spurs or whoever takes eithe Ace or VJ at two and we have Harper in our laps after a month or two these discussions lol

And even more hilarious when Morey trades the Harper pick for a win-now veteran.

[Mik317]

Why can't we just get the 2nd pick so we can fail in unanimous peace:

DLO
Ingram
Lonzo
Jabari Parker

Gonna be hilarious when the Spurs or whoever takes eithe Ace or VJ at two and we have Harper in our laps after a month or two these discussions lol

And even more hilarious when Morey trades the Harper pick for a win-now veteran.

that might actually get me to stop watching lol

[Iverson Armband]

I’ll save everyone some time, Seth Greenberg says he’d take Tre Johnson at 3.