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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1161 » by sco » Tue Jun 3, 2025 5:46 pm

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RSP83 wrote:if the Grizzlies is hitting the reset button and JJJ ever becomes available, that's probably the guy I'm after. He's an expiring contract next year and per sportrac will be UFA in 2026.

I'm sold on the idea that a rim protecting big who can hit 2-3 treys a game at > 37% clip is super valuable and also a rarity. Yes, I'm inspired by the role that Myles Turner play for Indiana. Brook Lopez is a similar player who was a key piece for that championship Bucks team. Both are poor rebounders for their size, but their strengths more than offset their weaknesses.

Guys other than JJJ who provide the same are Mobley and Wemby, and they are untouchable.

I would look for this type of player in the 2nd round of this year's draft. Or just take Khaman Maluach if he's somehow available at #12 which I highly doubt


I also have a hard time finding a better/more-attainable FA than JJJ. He’s a little injury prone and the rebounding is an issue, maybe isn’t a great leader, but I have no problem maxing him at 25yo. The spacing and rim protection would address Bulls’ 2 biggest issues, if Coby is supposed to stick around (Kind of hoping he doesn’t unless it’s sub-$20M salary). Almost don’t even mind keeping Vuc into his retirement at that point, assuming his minutes and next contract are halved.

The only question is whether Memphis maxes him without hesitation, seeks trade bids, or actually waits until he hits unrestricted free agency next year. Think is, JJJ’s next deal will put Memphis way over the cap and they won’t have much flexibility to improve that roster, unless they flirt with luxury, which they’ve traditionally avoided.


Not a rim protector but intriguing possible FA option is Naz Reid. But as much as I like the guy we should NOT pursue him. He's basically a younger Bobby Portis without the crazy. He's going to be asking for high 20s type money, and he can certainly help some teams but definitely not us. He's not elite enough for us to commit our future and significant size of our cap space at this moment.

I can't get a good sense if Naz has the ability to be PF and still allow us to get rim protection elsewhere. I would look at him (functionally) as a replacement for Coby (with Coby getting traded either in the deal or elsewhere). He'll give you 20ppg but better defense than Coby. We start a POA defender (Ball), Giddey, Matas, Naz, Rim Protector (TBD). That could be interesting.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1162 » by RSP83 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 5:51 pm

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I like Whitmore, I think he has playoff level solid contributor potential. I'd love to see him as Coby's main backup.

Coby/Whitmore
Giddey/Ayo

Lonzo most likely going to miss games and I don't see him as part of the Bulls future. Tre Jones probably gone. Dalen hasn't shown anything that warrants future promise. Don't care about THT and Carter.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1163 » by RSP83 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 5:54 pm

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I also have a hard time finding a better/more-attainable FA than JJJ. He’s a little injury prone and the rebounding is an issue, maybe isn’t a great leader, but I have no problem maxing him at 25yo. The spacing and rim protection would address Bulls’ 2 biggest issues, if Coby is supposed to stick around (Kind of hoping he doesn’t unless it’s sub-$20M salary). Almost don’t even mind keeping Vuc into his retirement at that point, assuming his minutes and next contract are halved.

The only question is whether Memphis maxes him without hesitation, seeks trade bids, or actually waits until he hits unrestricted free agency next year. Think is, JJJ’s next deal will put Memphis way over the cap and they won’t have much flexibility to improve that roster, unless they flirt with luxury, which they’ve traditionally avoided.


Not a rim protector but intriguing possible FA option is Naz Reid. But as much as I like the guy we should NOT pursue him. He's basically a younger Bobby Portis without the crazy. He's going to be asking for high 20s type money, and he can certainly help some teams but definitely not us. He's not elite enough for us to commit our future and significant size of our cap space at this moment.

I can't get a good sense if Naz has the ability to be PF and still allow us to get rim protection elsewhere. I would look at him (functionally) as a replacement for Coby (with Coby getting traded either in the deal or elsewhere). He'll give you 20ppg but better defense than Coby. We start a POA defender (Ball), Giddey, Matas, Naz, Rim Protector (TBD). That could be interesting.


Naz and JJJ pairing would be really awesome though. Because JJJ can slide to the 4 and still provide that rim protection. It's like if Naz playing with a version of Gobert that can slide to the 4 and shoot 2-3 treys a game at high clip. Despite both being poor rebounders, we have Giddey who is a really strong rebounder to complement them.

Giddey, Huerter/Ayo, Matas, Naz, JJJ.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1164 » by WesPeace » Tue Jun 3, 2025 6:50 pm

dpucane wrote:
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Smith, 2026 1st round pick and Por pick for Allen


No more picks for guys who don't move the needle!


He would be big difference vs Vucevic in the post?! He would move the needle for us..
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Post#1165 » by RSP83 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 7:21 pm

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No more picks for guys who don't move the needle!


He would be big difference vs Vucevic in the post?! He would move the needle for us..


Jarrett Allen? He would probably move the needle if you consider Gobert moves the needle. I'm a bit skeptic of their type though. Whether they worth the big investment. Gobert's teams tend to have a problem getting over the hump because he's too one dimensional. I think the best type of centers are the more balanced ones. Provide both sufficient rim protection and offense beyond just finishing lobs and putbacks.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1166 » by sco » Tue Jun 3, 2025 7:22 pm

WesPeace wrote:
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No more picks for guys who don't move the needle!


He would be big difference vs Vucevic in the post?! He would move the needle for us..

He may be the best "gettable" player for us.

Prefer him to KAT at the same price.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1167 » by pipfan » Tue Jun 3, 2025 8:32 pm

Whitmore is one of my targets to use our TPE and the Port pick (my favorite still Dieng/#24)
There are others-we get a talent from a stacked team
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1168 » by dpucane » Tue Jun 3, 2025 9:27 pm

WesPeace wrote:
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No more picks for guys who don't move the needle!


He would be big difference vs Vucevic in the post?! He would move the needle for us..


He moves you closer to the exact middle, probably the 8 seed. You don't trade picks for that.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1169 » by Chi town » Tue Jun 3, 2025 9:59 pm

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I like Whitmore, I think he has playoff level solid contributor potential. I'd love to see him as Coby's main backup.

Coby/Whitmore
Giddey/Ayo

Lonzo most likely going to miss games and I don't see him as part of the Bulls future. Tre Jones probably gone. Dalen hasn't shown anything that warrants future promise. Don't care about THT and Carter.


Can has been one of my targets for awhile.

Dude can score and has crazy athleticism and strength. Don’t know about his attitude or work ethic though. He’s doesn’t really do anything but score.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1170 » by GuardianEnzo » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:11 pm

pipfan wrote:Whitmore is one of my targets to use our TPE and the Port pick (my favorite still Dieng/#24)
There are others-we get a talent from a stacked team


Whitmore is an interesting target. Obviously can score, not a catastrophically bad defender for a young player, decent rebounder. The Rockets are also a team that could actually use Coby White. He could be a difference-maker for them.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1171 » by leo921 » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:50 pm

would love a whitmore trade, dont know if we could do something like
whitmore for philips/Port pick

wouldnt mind a larger deal centered around

smith/whitmore for Jalen Smith/phillips/12th pick

before people go off about Smith being starting PF, the rockets have been playing Van Fleet at PG and using Amen Thompson as a PF to be an extra ballhandler, driver, switchable defender plus they have Eason as well. At least here Smith is your bench big on a solid contract, a young prospect, and a low end lotto pick

For bulls i like Smith as your switchable strench 4 who can shoot and maybe able to scale up his game. love the fit with Smith/Matas as your 3/4 can switch score block and defend and young. Whitmore becomes your high scoring 6th man playing at the 2/3/4 mix off the bench depending on matchups.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1172 » by Red8911 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:02 am

Like Whitmore a lot more than Kuminga that’s for sure. Very talented scorer with lots of potential.Only 21 yrs old. I’m sure a lot of teams will be making offers to trade for him but at the same time wouldn’t want the bulls to give up much to get him.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1173 » by WesPeace » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:33 am

dpucane wrote:
WesPeace wrote:
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No more picks for guys who don't move the needle!


He would be big difference vs Vucevic in the post?! He would move the needle for us..


He moves you closer to the exact middle, probably the 8 seed. You don't trade picks for that.


We need defense and best defensive centers have price! You need to give something to get something.. prices arent low for that kind of players before their prime!
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1174 » by Nyce_1 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 2:31 pm

What would Bulls be looking to get in a trade for Lonzo?
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1175 » by RSP83 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 2:56 pm

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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1176 » by kodo » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:49 pm

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I saw this but the general media have no clue how the Bulls operate. The general media thought the Bulls would tank the last 4 seasons. Last 4 seasons we've averaged 41 W seasons. What were the Bulls expected to win going into this season? 25 W?

We're all in on short term and Coby helps that for 1 more season.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1177 » by kodo » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:51 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:What would Bulls be looking to get in a trade for Lonzo?

Any kind of non-guard roleplayer. Org would also be adverse to really long term contracts but I doubt a low level roleplayer would have a 4 or 5 year. Only the Bulls do that.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1178 » by dpucane » Wed Jun 4, 2025 5:18 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:What would Bulls be looking to get in a trade for Lonzo?


They turned down a first last year so it better be at that level
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1179 » by Nyce_1 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 5:28 pm

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Nyce_1 wrote:What would Bulls be looking to get in a trade for Lonzo?


They turned down a first last year so it better be at that level
Foolish of them to turn that down in hindsight, IMO. That last injury doesn't help him regain 1st pick round value.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread #12 

Post#1180 » by jnrjr79 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 6:23 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
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Nyce_1 wrote:What would Bulls be looking to get in a trade for Lonzo?


They turned down a first last year so it better be at that level
Foolish of them to turn that down in hindsight, IMO. That last injury doesn't help him regain 1st pick round value.


Important to note that pick was offered with long-term salary attached (and we'd have been talking matching Lonzo's old higher salary), which is presumably why the Bulls balked.

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