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Hello Brooklyn wrote:I'm not the biggest Thibs fan but are we really supposed to believe a different coach would do better?
The Knicks should not have beaten the Celtics.
JustBuzzin wrote:Don't ask me how I know.
Keep an eye out for Ty Lue as the next Knicks HC.
Optms wrote:Ssj16 wrote:Optms wrote:
Pretty sure Jokic got Malone fired. Dumb decision. They are now a treadmill team.
Knicks, especially Brunson, has been vocal how much they support Thibs. This is management being idiots. And now will be a treadmill team. Like the Nuggets.
This doesn't even make any sense. Malone lost the locker room which was clear as day.
This is like saying Lakers should have kept Darvin Ham because he got the Lakers to a conference finals.
People also forget about the firing of David Blatt after he got them to 1 finals and look how that worked out for Cleveland.
One thing that is true about Thibs until proven otherwise, his players get rundown or his teams flame out in the playoffs.
Definitely risky for NYC but if they do their due diligence, there are definitely upgrades out there.
Lakers didn't fire him weeks before the playoffs though. Moving on is one thing, but the timing was off with that firing. No way you can convince me he was not run out. Jokic definitely signed off on it.
Johnny Bball wrote:bronxknicksfan1 wrote:reload141 wrote:
Both teams are pretty even to be honest. Losing that OT game is what killed the Knicks. That loss was on the players.
It’s on Thibs as well. Why would you take out the lineup that gave you a 17 point lead and put in Brunson, who had 5 fouls at the time, at the 5 min mark in the 4th quarter? He was getting attacked the entire time.
whne someone doesn't understand their entire argument is based on the benefit of hindsight.
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?
so many people are going to eat their words about randle
NiceLikeChrist wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:bronxknicksfan1 wrote:
It’s on Thibs as well. Why would you take out the lineup that gave you a 17 point lead and put in Brunson, who had 5 fouls at the time, at the 5 min mark in the 4th quarter? He was getting attacked the entire time.
whne someone doesn't understand their entire argument is based on the benefit of hindsight.
And a good coach recognizes things as they happen so there isn’t a need to look at things in hindsight. The problem with thibs is EVERY single game, every single season, we are pointing out things in hindsight from MONTHS back.
Fans were asking for different rotations, different guys getting looks, different lineups, an actual offense, stopping the drop coverage, less minutes on the starters, since NOVEMBER. We all knew what would happen in the playoffs because we go through it every year with this bozo coach.
It took him until down 0-2 in the ECF to play guys who could’ve been contributing all playoffs. And even then he didn’t play them enough or when he should because he just doesn’t understand the flow of the game.
Every single thibs interview is the same garbage “the game tells you what to do”. No you idiot the coach does. The coach tells you what to do. Former players who have played under thibs pointing out that he’s still using the same post up plays from a decade ago. Not allowing coordinators to have any real input on schemes and plays. Too stubborn to take teams to the next level.
Anyone who actually watches the Knicks and understands basketball knows how much thibs limited this roster. It’s clear as day
ArksNetsSince99 wrote:Enzo954 wrote:Repeat 3-peat wrote:Fired the coach that just got them to the Conference Finals for the first time since the 99'-00' season smh.
You didn't watch every game over the last few years like us die hard Knicks fans did. The guy can't adjust on the fly, has antiquated outdated plays, buried the bench the entire year, and role player types in the league have been saying they would never sign with NY because Thibs would never give them any burn. Even retired players on Podcasts are talking about how old school and outdated his coaching is. Any above average coach in this league could have got this squad to the ECF's this year. Thibs did absolutely nothing in that game 1 loss when the Knicks were up 15 with a few minutes to go and blew it. No timeouts, nothing.
Without Thibs , Knicks will be a play in team next season , book it
He made them overachieving big time
Patsfan1081 wrote:Enzo954 wrote:Repeat 3-peat wrote:Fired the coach that just got them to the Conference Finals for the first time since the 99'-00' season smh.
You didn't watch every game over the last few years like us die hard Knicks fans did. The guy can't adjust on the fly, has antiquated outdated plays, buried the bench the entire year, and role player types in the league have been saying they would never sign with NY because Thibs would never give them any burn. Even retired players on Podcasts are talking about how old school and outdated his coaching is. Any above average coach in this league could have got this squad to the ECF's this year. Thibs did absolutely nothing in that game 1 loss when the Knicks were up 15 with a few minutes to go and blew it. No timeouts, nothing.
There’s always going to be complaints, the coach is the easiest guy to blame after a loss. If it’s not one thing it’s another. He ends up playing his bench more than he’s an idiot for not relying on his starters more. Results should be at the forefront.
djsunyc wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:Don't ask me how I know.
Keep an eye out for Ty Lue as the next Knicks HC.
will clippers let him out of his deal?
reload141 wrote:NiceLikeChrist wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:
whne someone doesn't understand their entire argument is based on the benefit of hindsight.
And a good coach recognizes things as they happen so there isn’t a need to look at things in hindsight. The problem with thibs is EVERY single game, every single season, we are pointing out things in hindsight from MONTHS back.
Fans were asking for different rotations, different guys getting looks, different lineups, an actual offense, stopping the drop coverage, less minutes on the starters, since NOVEMBER. We all knew what would happen in the playoffs because we go through it every year with this bozo coach.
It took him until down 0-2 in the ECF to play guys who could’ve been contributing all playoffs. And even then he didn’t play them enough or when he should because he just doesn’t understand the flow of the game.
Every single thibs interview is the same garbage “the game tells you what to do”. No you idiot the coach does. The coach tells you what to do. Former players who have played under thibs pointing out that he’s still using the same post up plays from a decade ago. Not allowing coordinators to have any real input on schemes and plays. Too stubborn to take teams to the next level.
Anyone who actually watches the Knicks and understands basketball knows how much thibs limited this roster. It’s clear as day
While I agree with a lot of this, you also have to remember you’re balancing egos here as part of the game.
What if it got under Brunson’s skin that being the Knicks best player he was benched (obviously with 5 fouls) and then the expectation as the BEST player on the Knicks is to finish off the game.
He simply didn’t do that. A lot of the blame falls on Brunson for that collapse not just solely on Thibs.
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?
so many people are going to eat their words about randle
donkki wrote:What I'm suggesting is that going back to MSG for G7, everything would have been possible for the Knicks. But you are right, Thibs was outcoached most of the series and that's why he had to go.
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