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Post#1061 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:02 am

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B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Right. I think Leon goes hard for Giannis. And Giannis probably wants like to be in New York, on the Knicks


Giannis can't shoot that well. Knicks playing Giannis and Mitch? Doesn't seem like a recipe for success.



I think whoever trades for Giannis has to sit him down, and explain to him that he should be playing center now. As he gets older that would make the most sense for him positionally, and would expose teams to having to defend him with their C if the other 4 players can shoot.

100%. Should be Giannis and Ben Simmons battling it out as C's in the NBA finals
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Post#1062 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:04 am

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Giannis can't shoot that well. Knicks playing Giannis and Mitch? Doesn't seem like a recipe for success.



I think whoever trades for Giannis has to sit him down, and explain to him that he should be playing center now. As he gets older that would make the most sense for him positionally, and would expose teams to having to defend him with their C if the other 4 players can shoot.


C: Giannis
PF: OG
SF: ? (Can't be Hart)
SG: Mikal
C: Brunson

Who is the SF or shooting guard? Deuce? Doesn't seem like a chip' team. Divo?




I really don't think we're getting Giannis, mainly because we just don't have any players that really fit with him after the trade. He can't work with Mitch or Hart, and if you play him at the 5 you need a + rebounder at the 3 or 4 because Mikal and OG are mediocre rebounders.
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Post#1063 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:06 am

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Giannis can't shoot that well. Knicks playing Giannis and Mitch? Doesn't seem like a recipe for success.



I think whoever trades for Giannis has to sit him down, and explain to him that he should be playing center now. As he gets older that would make the most sense for him positionally, and would expose teams to having to defend him with their C if the other 4 players can shoot.


C: Giannis
PF: OG
SF: ? (Can't be Hart)
SG: Mikal
C: Brunson

Who is the SF or shooting guard? Deuce? Doesn't seem like a chip' team. Divo?

Mitch (my favourite knick by a long way) is redundant, or a luxury back up with Giannis. Probably part of the trade. Though he is super good value, and probably could be extended on a very preferable for the Knicks deal. Hum. Choices, choices

SF might be one of Pacome and McCullars. Otherwise, sure, needs someone. DDV fits for synergy, but as a player doesn't seem like an above average option.
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Post#1064 » by msanchez2725 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:10 am

Any chance we had at Giannis died with the Bridges trade.
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Post#1065 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:20 am

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

I think whoever trades for Giannis has to sit him down, and explain to him that he should be playing center now. As he gets older that would make the most sense for him positionally, and would expose teams to having to defend him with their C if the other 4 players can shoot.


C: Giannis
PF: OG
SF: ? (Can't be Hart)
SG: Mikal
C: Brunson

Who is the SF or shooting guard? Deuce? Doesn't seem like a chip' team. Divo?

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Post#1066 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:22 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

I think whoever trades for Giannis has to sit him down, and explain to him that he should be playing center now. As he gets older that would make the most sense for him positionally, and would expose teams to having to defend him with their C if the other 4 players can shoot.


C: Giannis
PF: OG
SF: ? (Can't be Hart)
SG: Mikal
C: Brunson

Who is the SF or shooting guard? Deuce? Doesn't seem like a chip' team. Divo?




I really don't think we're getting Giannis, mainly because we just don't have any players that really fit with him after the trade. He can't work with Mitch or Hart, and if you play him at the 5 you need a + rebounder at the 3 or 4 because Mikal and OG are mediocre rebounders.

I think JJJ is the target. Not sure if for the 4 or 5
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Post#1067 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:29 am

I think the Bucks just let Giannis go wherever he wants. They won with him. They are not close to repeating. They probably just let go. Same as Denver, except Jokic doesn't really seem to want to move.
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Post#1068 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:34 am

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
C: Giannis
PF: OG
SF: ? (Can't be Hart)
SG: Mikal
C: Brunson

Who is the SF or shooting guard? Deuce? Doesn't seem like a chip' team. Divo?




I really don't think we're getting Giannis, mainly because we just don't have any players that really fit with him after the trade. He can't work with Mitch or Hart, and if you play him at the 5 you need a + rebounder at the 3 or 4 because Mikal and OG are mediocre rebounders.

I think JJJ is the target. Not sure if for the 4 or 5

Jjj and Mitch works imo
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Post#1069 » by dukeknicksirish » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:00 am

2026 NBA Champs

Brunson/Wright/Lonzo
Lonzo/McBride/Shamet
OG/Bogdanovic/Dadiet
JJJ/KAT/McCullar
KAT/Mitch/Huk

Mikal + Kolek for JJJ
Precious S&T & 2nd for Lonzo
Hart for Bogdan Bogdanovic
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Post#1070 » by sol537 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:05 am

dukeknicksirish wrote:2026 NBA Champs

Brunson/Wright/Lonzo
Lonzo/McBride/Shamet
OG/Hart/Dadiet
JJJ/KAT/McCullar
KAT/Mitch/Huk

Mikal + Kolek for JJJ
Precious S&T & 2nd for Lonzo


My body is ready
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Post#1071 » by dukeknicksirish » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:06 am

sol537 wrote:
dukeknicksirish wrote:2026 NBA Champs

Brunson/Wright/Lonzo
Lonzo/McBride/Shamet
OG/Hart/Dadiet
JJJ/KAT/McCullar
KAT/Mitch/Huk

Mikal + Kolek for JJJ
Precious S&T & 2nd for Lonzo


My body is ready

Made one more trade

Hart for Bog

He’ll be our 6th man scoring punch we need
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Post#1072 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:20 am

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
C: Giannis
PF: OG
SF: ? (Can't be Hart)
SG: Mikal
C: Brunson

Who is the SF or shooting guard? Deuce? Doesn't seem like a chip' team. Divo?




I really don't think we're getting Giannis, mainly because we just don't have any players that really fit with him after the trade. He can't work with Mitch or Hart, and if you play him at the 5 you need a + rebounder at the 3 or 4 because Mikal and OG are mediocre rebounders.

I think JJJ is the target. Not sure if for the 4 or 5




I don't see them letting him go, forwards that can block shots and hit threes are at a premium. I actually think they'd trade JA before they trade JJJ, his rebounding sucks but the blocks & threes are still hard to come by.
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Post#1073 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:21 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:I think the Bucks just let Giannis go wherever he wants. They won with him. They are not close to repeating. They probably just let go. Same as Denver, except Jokic doesn't really seem to want to move.




If they were in a better situation with young players on the team already and picks they could do that, but they have to get back assets for him regardless of whether or not he won a title for them. Their future picks and roster as a whole is horrendous. If they take back a bad package for him, they may as well get ready to move the team to Seattle.


I think the Raptors get him.
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Post#1074 » by mpharris36 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:26 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:


I really don't think we're getting Giannis, mainly because we just don't have any players that really fit with him after the trade. He can't work with Mitch or Hart, and if you play him at the 5 you need a + rebounder at the 3 or 4 because Mikal and OG are mediocre rebounders.

I think JJJ is the target. Not sure if for the 4 or 5




I don't see them letting him go, forwards that can block shots and hit threes are at a premium. I actually think they'd trade JA before they trade JJJ, his rebounding sucks but the blocks & threes are still hard to come by.


the only thing I can think of is he only has 1 more year left on his deal. Don't know if he likes Memphis or wants a change of scenery or Memphis will be cheap not wanting to pay him the big time extension. I think he's extension eligible so we should find out soon enough.
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Post#1075 » by mpharris36 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:29 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:I think the Bucks just let Giannis go wherever he wants. They won with him. They are not close to repeating. They probably just let go. Same as Denver, except Jokic doesn't really seem to want to move.




If they were in a better situation with young players on the team already and picks they could do that, but they have to get back assets for him regardless of whether or not he won a title for them. Their future picks and roster as a whole is horrendous. If they take back a bad package for him, they may as well get ready to move the team to Seattle.


I think the Raptors get him.


Outside of the Ujiri connection why in the world would he want to go to TOR? Giannis is a big enough star to think he will have some say in where he goes.

Especially with TOR basically going to have to gut there team to get him. He would be in the the same/worst situation then he is right now.
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Post#1076 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:30 am

mpharris36 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:I think JJJ is the target. Not sure if for the 4 or 5




I don't see them letting him go, forwards that can block shots and hit threes are at a premium. I actually think they'd trade JA before they trade JJJ, his rebounding sucks but the blocks & threes are still hard to come by.


the only thing I can think of is he only has 1 more year left on his deal. Don't know if he likes Memphis or wants a change of scenery or Memphis will be cheap not wanting to pay him the big time extension. I think he's extension eligible so we should find out soon enough.



If JJJ is on the market, you can expect someone like the Spurs to get involved. I think guys like that and Giannis are just out of our tax bracket right now, we just don't have the picks for it.



I think KD is realistically the only player we can get, the Suns are trying to move him before the draft and their asking price has dropped.
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Post#1077 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:31 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:I think the Bucks just let Giannis go wherever he wants. They won with him. They are not close to repeating. They probably just let go. Same as Denver, except Jokic doesn't really seem to want to move.




If they were in a better situation with young players on the team already and picks they could do that, but they have to get back assets for him regardless of whether or not he won a title for them. Their future picks and roster as a whole is horrendous. If they take back a bad package for him, they may as well get ready to move the team to Seattle.


I think the Raptors get him.

The Raptors are a possibility. I just think in the end they won't really fight that hard and will just rebuild basically. I agree that's probably not an optimal strategy in terms of maximizing wins or whatever. However it may be somewhat sound in terms of long term keeping (future) stars.
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Post#1078 » by mpharris36 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:35 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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I don't see them letting him go, forwards that can block shots and hit threes are at a premium. I actually think they'd trade JA before they trade JJJ, his rebounding sucks but the blocks & threes are still hard to come by.


the only thing I can think of is he only has 1 more year left on his deal. Don't know if he likes Memphis or wants a change of scenery or Memphis will be cheap not wanting to pay him the big time extension. I think he's extension eligible so we should find out soon enough.



If JJJ is on the market, you can expect someone like the Spurs to get involved. I think guys like that and Giannis are just out of our tax bracket right now, we just don't have the picks for it.



I think KD is realistically the only player we can get, the Suns are trying to move him before the draft and their asking price has dropped.



I guess it all depends on if you make guys like KAT, Mikal, OG available. If thats the case depending on multiple team trade you can surely get people involved.

Who knows what these teams want...THe bucks don't own the rights to there pick until kingdom come...you can't really rebuild without your own picks. The might be better getting players that help them be competitive and draw some decent crowds because they hit reset closer to when they start getting access to there picks back.
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Post#1079 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:38 am

mpharris36 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:I think the Bucks just let Giannis go wherever he wants. They won with him. They are not close to repeating. They probably just let go. Same as Denver, except Jokic doesn't really seem to want to move.




If they were in a better situation with young players on the team already and picks they could do that, but they have to get back assets for him regardless of whether or not he won a title for them. Their future picks and roster as a whole is horrendous. If they take back a bad package for him, they may as well get ready to move the team to Seattle.


I think the Raptors get him.


Outside of the Ujiri connection why in the world would he want to go to TOR? Giannis is a big enough star to think he will have some say in where he goes.

Especially with TOR basically going to have to gut there team to get him. He would be in the the same/worst situation then he is right now.




The Masai connection is pretty massive, not something you can just brush off, they're both on record talking about how much they mean to one another.




Would they really have to gut their team? You start with Scottie Barnes, then work out from there. Barnes, RJ, Dick, the pick this year, future picks.
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Post#1080 » by mpharris36 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 4:48 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:


If they were in a better situation with young players on the team already and picks they could do that, but they have to get back assets for him regardless of whether or not he won a title for them. Their future picks and roster as a whole is horrendous. If they take back a bad package for him, they may as well get ready to move the team to Seattle.


I think the Raptors get him.


Outside of the Ujiri connection why in the world would he want to go to TOR? Giannis is a big enough star to think he will have some say in where he goes.

Especially with TOR basically going to have to gut there team to get him. He would be in the the same/worst situation then he is right now.




The Masai connection is pretty massive, not something you can just brush off, they're both on record talking about how much they mean to one another.




Would they really have to gut their team? You start with Scottie Barnes, then work out from there. Barnes, RJ, Dick, the pick this year, future picks.


to me KAT's way more valuable than Barnes and that. Honestly think OG is a better piece than Barnes.

Giannis goes to TOR to play with IQ as his second best player? I don't see it if Giannis is all about winning. He's going to have an issue with that. Ujiri might want him but not sure is see why Giannis would want to go there.

If I'm giannis I would much rather go to San Antonio or something like that. If he would be ok living there. Because he would be playing with a generational talent and they could legit win it all which he says is important to him at this stage in his career.
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