NBA Draft 2025

[Netaman]

Ok Harper believers, here's the best I can do to make sense of a Harper trade. Boston saves a boatload of money now and in the future, gets some younger assets for Brown and clears a lot of bad money. SAS gets Brown + CamJ for basically #2 and salary matching.

We eat into cap room to get Harper.

[vincecarter4pres]

I just feel like if the Nets somehow get up to 2, it’s two truly separate trades, the first one where the get up to 3 without giving up the farm. Then you have to adhere to the thought that San An isn’t totally sold on Harper and loves someone like Ace, Tre or VJ(all viable # 3’s), and trades back to 3 for a Cam Johnson for Vassell swap, or something like that.

[Netaman]

I just feel like if the Nets somehow get up to 2, it’s two truly separate trades, the first one where the get up to 3 without giving up the farm. Then you have to adhere to the thought that San An isn’t totally sold on Harper and loves someone like Ace, Tre or VJ(all viable # 3’s), and trades back to 3 for a Cam Johnson for Vassell swap, or something like that.

There's also the possibility that they may not want anyone with any headache risk. They have Fox and Castle, the harpers have already encouraged the idea of staying local. This is probably wishful thinking at least a little bit but unless they think he's special it may be worth cashing in the value for a couple more future picks/cam j plus the chance to pick anyone else they like.

i agree getting up to 3 seems like it should be doable, just not sure who id do it for out of bailey/vj/tre/fears/kneuppel. i think i like the latter 3 guys better than the consensus 3/4 tbh.

[Paradise]

I'm afraid that the cost to get to #2 will be crazy, and you can't pay all of that for someone unproven.

He’s NBA ready. Look at his workout with Giannis and Ace Bailey.


#8
#26
#27
Cam Johnson
Philly’s 2027 unprotected 1st
2027 NYK pick swap

For #2 pick

The Spurs aren't looking for quantity, they're looking for quality. No reason to trade a guy that will pair with Wemby for the next decade plus for a bunch of more dubious picks.

They could flip those picks into Giannis or KD


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[TheNetsFan]

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This is the type of deal that makes more sense. On the surface, it doesn't seem to place a ton of value on CamJ, but bad contract is relative. Outside of Jalen Green, there's no really bad contract on either the Rockets or Raptors books.

[vincecarter4pres]

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This is the type of deal that makes more sense. On the surface, it doesn't seem to place a ton of value on CamJ, but bad contract is relative. Outside of Jalen Green, there's no really bad contract on either the Rockets or Raptors books.

Then wonder if they’ll move up from one or both of the 8th and 9th(or 10th) with the later picks, or maybe try and package 8 and 9/10 with a future pick or a player for the 2nd overall?

[Eatgreenz]

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This is the type of deal that makes more sense. On the surface, it doesn't seem to place a ton of value on CamJ, but bad contract is relative. Outside of Jalen Green, there's no really bad contract on either the Rockets or Raptors books.

Then wonder if they’ll move up from one or both of the 8th and 9th(or 10th) with the later picks, or maybe try and package 8 and 9/10 with a future pick or a player for the 2nd overall?

getting harper and still having the 26th and 27th n 2nd rd pick to do some more moving around would be amazing.

[vincecarter4pres]

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This is the type of deal that makes more sense. On the surface, it doesn't seem to place a ton of value on CamJ, but bad contract is relative. Outside of Jalen Green, there's no really bad contract on either the Rockets or Raptors books.

Dillon Brooks or FVV maybe, which yeah, I’d gladly absorb to move up.

[vincecarter4pres]

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This is the type of deal that makes more sense. On the surface, it doesn't seem to place a ton of value on CamJ, but bad contract is relative. Outside of Jalen Green, there's no really bad contract on either the Rockets or Raptors books.

Then wonder if they’ll move up from one or both of the 8th and 9th(or 10th) with the later picks, or maybe try and package 8 and 9/10 with a future pick or a player for the 2nd overall?

getting harper and still having the 26th and 27th n 2nd rd pick to do some more moving around would be amazing.

Even if it’s a series of moves that costs nothing more than the 8th, all late picks and one of Cam J or Clax(or both) and we move all the way up to 2 and snag Harper, I’m all in.

Can’t get obsessed with “proper” value if we can finagle a way to 2 without touching any future picks.

I’m not 100% sold on Harper, but there’s no one in this draft I am, even though I really like Tre, Ace, Riley, Essengue, KJ and Fears. But Harper has a much clearer path to stardom imho.

[Netaman]

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This is the type of deal that makes more sense. On the surface, it doesn't seem to place a ton of value on CamJ, but bad contract is relative. Outside of Jalen Green, there's no really bad contract on either the Rockets or Raptors books.

Dillon Brooks or FVV maybe, which yeah, I’d gladly absorb to move up.

Absorbing FVV or Jrue to get assets is a double win imo. Strong veteran leaders who would greatly benefit both CamT (who i expect resigns on a clax level contract) and also mentor a young guard (be it Harper, Fears, Traore, Demin, whoever).

I think CamJ is getting moved in a deal like the Raps suggest, or a trade up for #2/3, and Clax goes to LAL.

Nets absorb salary, get 2 top 10 picks, and maybe have enough $ leftover to also poach Kuminga.

coming out of this draft with a combo like Noa Essenge and Jeremiah Fears would be awesome. But there are honestly a lot of combos of top 20 players i'd be similar excited about (or even more excited about like Harper + anyone else).

[Netaman]

Then wonder if they’ll move up from one or both of the 8th and 9th(or 10th) with the later picks, or maybe try and package 8 and 9/10 with a future pick or a player for the 2nd overall?

getting harper and still having the 26th and 27th n 2nd rd pick to do some more moving around would be amazing.

Even if it’s a series of moves that costs nothing more than the 8th, all late picks and one of Cam J or Clax(or both) and we move all the way up to 2 and snag Harper, I’m all in.

Can’t get obsessed with “proper” value if we can finagle a way to 2 without touching any future picks.

I’m not 100% sold on Harper, but there’s no one in this draft I am, even though I really like Tre, Ace, Riley, Essengue, KJ and Fears. But Harper has a much clearer path to stardom imho.

I think Harper has a pretty safe path to Brandon Roy. In this class I think that is worth trading up for even though that may be a super max superstar.

I think Fears has a reasonable path to a Fox type outcome and Tre has a reasonable Michael Redd.

Kon is tricky, I could see him getting to the Klay or Hayward levels which is probably on the Fox/Redd level.

Those are the 4 i'd be most excited about because I see the translateable dynamic skills beyond cam thomas volume shot making.

Bailey and VJ are both a little more boom/bust I think. Same with Queen and Maluach. I can see a really high end outcome for any of them, or Bol Bol/Jahlil Okafor type outcomes.

[TheNetsFan]

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This is the type of deal that makes more sense. On the surface, it doesn't seem to place a ton of value on CamJ, but bad contract is relative. Outside of Jalen Green, there's no really bad contract on either the Rockets or Raptors books.

Then wonder if they’ll move up from one or both of the 8th and 9th(or 10th) with the later picks, or maybe try and package 8 and 9/10 with a future pick or a player for the 2nd overall?

I think they'd prefer to draft 2 in that range. The roster is virtually empty. Take a chance to land 2 very good prospects. Maybe they develop into 2 future starters. Maybe one pops and becomes a star like Curry, Hali, SGA, Giannis and Kawhi all did from that range.

[Netaman]

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This is the type of deal that makes more sense. On the surface, it doesn't seem to place a ton of value on CamJ, but bad contract is relative. Outside of Jalen Green, there's no really bad contract on either the Rockets or Raptors books.

Then wonder if they’ll move up from one or both of the 8th and 9th(or 10th) with the later picks, or maybe try and package 8 and 9/10 with a future pick or a player for the 2nd overall?

I think they'd prefer to draft 2 in that range. The roster is virtually empty. Take a chance to land 2 very good prospects. Maybe they develop into 2 future starters. Maybe one pops and becomes a star like Curry, Hali, SGA, Giannis and Kawhi all did from that range.

Mitchell too, who they also supposedly really liked his draft year.

This is in part why im expecting a Kuminga pursuit, he was a 7th overall who has flashed and is still just 22, which is same age as Bridges when he was drafted and just a year older than Mitchell when drafted. He's flashed. He'd give them a 3rd "lotto pick" and all he costs is cash. He's also ready to take on a heavier role.

Kuminga, CamT, 2 top 10's from this solid lotto class, maybe Knecht from a Claxton trade, Clowney, Wilson, etc. would be a nice haul of young guys for Jordi to develop, and that group would have so much inexperience I'd expect them to probably again be top 10 lotto odds next year no matter how hard they compete.

If it's 1 top 10 because they get up for Harper that's totally fine too, I'm sure they will still have at least 1 or 2 picks outside the lottery left over as well and this is a deep first round so I could see getting someone useful later on too. One of the other euros, or traore, or clayton, or a 3/d like flemming.

[FarBeyondDriven]

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This is the type of deal that makes more sense. On the surface, it doesn't seem to place a ton of value on CamJ, but bad contract is relative. Outside of Jalen Green, there's no really bad contract on either the Rockets or Raptors books.

most teams wished they had a 3 and D with only two years left on a very team friendly contract and you all seem ready to trade him away (even adding a first round pick) to trade up for a late lottery pick in a weak draft.

[TheNetsFan]

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[Netaman]

I like Fears a lot. I think a DeAron Fox type is a pretty realistic outcome, and not far off what I think a pretty realistic outcome is for Harper (Brandon Roy).

[Netaman]

ok think this may be the version of getting up to #2 that makes the most sense for all involved. SAS gets 2 wing pieces that make them an elite outside shooting team with length and defense next to Wemby, will get another good piece at #8. Suns get 2 first round picks including 1 lotto, plus some other pieces. Could also see Claxton possibly making sense in this deal going to PHO but kept that out for now.

[Eatgreenz]

ok think this may be the version of getting up to #2 that makes the most sense for all involved. SAS gets 2 wing pieces that make them an elite outside shooting team with length and defense next to Wemby, will get another good piece at #8. Suns get 2 first round picks including 1 lotto, plus some other pieces. Could also see Claxton possibly making sense in this deal going to PHO but kept that out for now.

Loving this trade

[jeff1624]

Part of me is getting excited again about draft time after the obvious despair induced by dropping down in the lottery. Sucks not getting Flagg or Harper (cant see San Antonio trading the pick to us) but warming up to the idea of moving our later picks to get a 2nd pick in the lottery. If we come away with 2 of these guys (Fears, Knueppel, Maluach, Johnson) I'll be happy.

We also have a LOT of leverage thanks being the only team with substantial cap space and teams getting screwed by the 2nd apron will benefit us greatly. Even if we do end up only alleviating other teams' cap situations, we should end up with even more assets.

I'm all in on tanking for the 2026 draft while the young guys we draft this year get all the playing time they need.

[Netaman]

Part of me is getting excited again about draft time after the obvious despair induced by dropping down in the lottery. Sucks not getting Flagg or Harper (cant see San Antonio trading the pick to us) but warming up to the idea of moving our later picks to get a 2nd pick in the lottery. If we come away with 2 of these guys (Fears, Knueppel, Maluach, Johnson) I'll be happy.

We also have a LOT of leverage thanks being the only team with substantial cap space and teams getting screwed by the 2nd apron will benefit us greatly. Even if we do end up only alleviating other teams' cap situations, we should end up with even more assets.

I'm all in on tanking for the 2026 draft while the young guys we draft this year get all the playing time they need.

this is exactly where im at. I feel like CBA stars have aligned for Marks to maximize assets in return for having cap space as a facilitator. I expect him to manipulate the draft somehow by taking back salary, and probably dealing CamJ.

the idea of 2 or 3 of fears/knueppel/essengue/bryant/sorber/queen/maluach/traore/etc and marks being able to target the ones he values highly is pretty exciting knowing how good they've generally been at drafting. so many young freshman in this class.

the tanking thing to me is kind of irrelevant, it's hard to imagine any way they won't be in the lotto, and as we saw wherever you are in the lotto anything can happen. just pick interesting young guys who fit with jordi and let's see them flash.