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Re: Free Agent, Trade, Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 con't 

Post#1581 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jun 4, 2025 12:22 pm

Jrue and Boston future pick to Pelicans (Herb Jones and 2 pick swaps with Milwaukee)

Kyle Kuzma to Brooklyn

Jaylen Brown, Kelly Olynyk, Tillman, 2027 Boston first, 2025 Boston First, and Bucks own picks back from New Orleans)

Giannis and Herb Jones to Celtics.

Sheds 20 million.


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Jones/Hauser
Giannis/Horford
Kristaps/Kornet
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Post#1582 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 1:22 pm

Heading into the 2024-25 campaign, Boston Celtics management knew big roster changes were likely coming after the season, given the team’s upcoming payroll and luxury tax bill, league sources told HoopsHype.

Once franchise star Jayson Tatum suffered a torn Achilles in the playoffs against the New York Knicks, it confirmed that inevitable scenario.

“Boston needs to get off two big salaries at least, or they’ll have massive tax implications,” an NBA executive told HoopsHype. “Tatum’s injury lets them use next year as a gap year to audition other players or young guys.”

Several executives around the league believe Boston will explore the trade market for center Kristaps Porzingis, who’s owed $30.73 million and an expiring contract after the 2025-26 season.

Porzingis is viewed by executives around the league as Boston’s top trade candidate to trim salary for next season.

The Latvian center was instrumental in helping Boston win a championship but recently dealt with a mysterious illness that limited him during the playoffs.

Derrick White, who turns 31 in July, has always drawn interest from teams around the league. However, Boston has rebuffed previous inquiries to this point, and he’s still young enough to potentially be a difference-maker during the 2026-27 season when Tatum should be fully healthy.

Celtics guard Jrue Holiday, who turns 35 later this month and is owed a combined $104.4 million over the next three years, including a player option for the 2027-28 season, has already been linked to trade interest from the Clippers and Mavericks.

Another trade candidate to keep an eye on in the eyes of NBA executives around the league is sharpshooter Sam Hauser, a career 42 percent shooter from beyond the arc and has been a consistent rotation player for Boston the past three seasons.

Hauser will begin a four-year, $45 million contract starting in the 2025-26 season.

When Boston drafted Baylor Scheierman 30th overall in the 2024 NBA Draft, some NBA talent evaluators pointed to him as an eventual possible replacement for Hauser after he shot 39 percent beyond the arc in five collegiate seasons.

While Scheierman could potentially be asked to step up more, Boston will need Payton Pritchard to take an even bigger leap next season fresh off his Sixth Man of the Year campaign if the Celtics want to be a contender without their top player.

Despite the loss of Tatum and looming roster decisions against the luxury tax, championship expectations remain for the Celtics in Pritchard’s eyes.

“This is the Boston Celtics,” Pritchard explained to HoopsHype following Boston’s season-ending loss to the New York Knicks at Madison Square Garden. “We’re going to compete for a championship. There’s only one standard. That’s the standard we’ll always live by.


https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-intel-celtics-trade-candidates-james-hardens-free-agency-timberwolves-kings/
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Post#1583 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Jun 4, 2025 1:43 pm

Did the Celtics get Giannis for Scheierman, Walsh, Queta and the 32nd pick yet?
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Post#1584 » by 165bows » Wed Jun 4, 2025 1:53 pm

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Heading into the 2024-25 campaign, Boston Celtics management knew big roster changes were likely coming after the season, given the team’s upcoming payroll and luxury tax bill, league sources told HoopsHype.

Once franchise star Jayson Tatum suffered a torn Achilles in the playoffs against the New York Knicks, it confirmed that inevitable scenario.

“Boston needs to get off two big salaries at least, or they’ll have massive tax implications,” an NBA executive told HoopsHype. “Tatum’s injury lets them use next year as a gap year to audition other players or young guys.”

Several executives around the league believe Boston will explore the trade market for center Kristaps Porzingis, who’s owed $30.73 million and an expiring contract after the 2025-26 season.

Porzingis is viewed by executives around the league as Boston’s top trade candidate to trim salary for next season.

The Latvian center was instrumental in helping Boston win a championship but recently dealt with a mysterious illness that limited him during the playoffs.

Derrick White, who turns 31 in July, has always drawn interest from teams around the league. However, Boston has rebuffed previous inquiries to this point, and he’s still young enough to potentially be a difference-maker during the 2026-27 season when Tatum should be fully healthy.

Celtics guard Jrue Holiday, who turns 35 later this month and is owed a combined $104.4 million over the next three years, including a player option for the 2027-28 season, has already been linked to trade interest from the Clippers and Mavericks.

Another trade candidate to keep an eye on in the eyes of NBA executives around the league is sharpshooter Sam Hauser, a career 42 percent shooter from beyond the arc and has been a consistent rotation player for Boston the past three seasons.

Hauser will begin a four-year, $45 million contract starting in the 2025-26 season.

When Boston drafted Baylor Scheierman 30th overall in the 2024 NBA Draft, some NBA talent evaluators pointed to him as an eventual possible replacement for Hauser after he shot 39 percent beyond the arc in five collegiate seasons.

While Scheierman could potentially be asked to step up more, Boston will need Payton Pritchard to take an even bigger leap next season fresh off his Sixth Man of the Year campaign if the Celtics want to be a contender without their top player.

Despite the loss of Tatum and looming roster decisions against the luxury tax, championship expectations remain for the Celtics in Pritchard’s eyes.

“This is the Boston Celtics,” Pritchard explained to HoopsHype following Boston’s season-ending loss to the New York Knicks at Madison Square Garden. “We’re going to compete for a championship. There’s only one standard. That’s the standard we’ll always live by.


https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-intel-celtics-trade-candidates-james-hardens-free-agency-timberwolves-kings/

If Reid wants to start, just go get him and leave it at that. Move the $70M in salary and give Reid 4/100M, gives you the starting lineup (PP/White/Brown/Tatum/Reid) for the next 3-4 years and then just fill in with another 3-4 elite bench guys after next year.

Ie, take the year off and let Tatum and Brown get healthy and get a good pick and some other assets in trades this summer.
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Post#1586 » by playa-hater » Wed Jun 4, 2025 2:58 pm

Don't shoot the messenger, but a Rumor of Josh Hart + Mitchell Robinson for Jrue and KP is now out there. Knicks thinking Jrue is a more reliable shooter and obviously KP far better on offense. Too lazy to see how the money works. But interesting to say the least.
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Post#1587 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:07 pm

playa-hater wrote:Don't shoot the messenger, but a Rumor of Josh Hart + Mitchell Robinson for Jrue and KP is now out there. Knicks thinking Jrue is a more reliable shooter and obviously KP far better on offense. Too lazy to see how the money works. But interesting to say the least.



I take that and run honestly.

Mitchell is a nice player and Josh is another Derrick White level impact player.

Honestly, just have Mitchell work with a shooting coach / Tatum non stop. If he developed a solid midrange jumper he is a great player, imo.
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Post#1588 » by gammajamma » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:09 pm

playa-hater wrote:Don't shoot the messenger, but a Rumor of Josh Hart + Mitchell Robinson for Jrue and KP is now out there. Knicks thinking Jrue is a more reliable shooter and obviously KP far better on offense. Too lazy to see how the money works. But interesting to say the least.



I think that is off by 30 mill from Knicks side
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Post#1589 » by Jellybeans » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:11 pm

playa-hater wrote:Don't shoot the messenger, but a Rumor of Josh Hart + Mitchell Robinson for Jrue and KP is now out there. Knicks thinking Jrue is a more reliable shooter and obviously KP far better on offense. Too lazy to see how the money works. But interesting to say the least.

WTF?
How does this even work?
That puts Knicks salary cap at +/- 230 mil with 9-10 players :lol:
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Post#1590 » by Fierce1 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:15 pm

We'll have to wait 3 more weeks to finally see something happen.
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Post#1591 » by brackdan70 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:16 pm

playa-hater wrote:Don't shoot the messenger, but a Rumor of Josh Hart + Mitchell Robinson for Jrue and KP is now out there. Knicks thinking Jrue is a more reliable shooter and obviously KP far better on offense. Too lazy to see how the money works. But interesting to say the least.

Salary way off for the Knicks. They would need to trade Bridges for nothing I think to stay under the second Apron.
Jrue for both actually comes close to working though. Cs don’t save much this year but can in 26/27
Edit: Cs would be taking back more money…would need to route Robinson to a someone’s TPE or cap space.
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Post#1592 » by 165bows » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:21 pm

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playa-hater wrote:Don't shoot the messenger, but a Rumor of Josh Hart + Mitchell Robinson for Jrue and KP is now out there. Knicks thinking Jrue is a more reliable shooter and obviously KP far better on offense. Too lazy to see how the money works. But interesting to say the least.

Salary way off for the Knicks. They would need to trade Bridges for nothing I think to stay under the second Apron.
Jrue for both actually comes close to working though. Cs don’t save much this year but can in 26/27
Edit: Cs would be taking back more money…would need to route Robinson to a someone’s TPE or cap space.

Could move off another guy though. KAT for a guy making $20M would make it work for them.

I don't really love it but if the Js are on the shelf getting healthy it would be good for getting a good draft pick.
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Post#1593 » by Fierce1 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:31 pm

If it's true Spurs want a veteran star player to complement Wemby and Fox, who would you rather have, JB or KD?
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Post#1594 » by djFan71 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:38 pm

My daily DAL/ATL trade, now with Lakers. Doesn't attempt to save all the money in the world, but brings back 4 guys that can actually play (to varying degrees) and could be moved in other trades after.

BOS in: Knecht, Rui, Marshall, Mann
BOS out: Jrue, KP, Tillman

DAL in: Jrue
DAL out: Gafford, Marshall, Martin

ATL in: KP, Martin
ATL out: Mann, Niang

LAL in: Gafford, Niang
LAL out: Rui, Knecht

BOS saves $16.3M here and gets 4 good younger players back.
You're a Hauser (or Marshall) to TPE and 2nds back from ducking the apron.

With 4 of the guys back and picks you can build an interesting trade package to consolidate since you're low on roster spots. But, you get decent value and savings back this way.
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Post#1595 » by Fierce1 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:41 pm

djFan71 wrote:My daily DAL/ATL trade, now with Lakers. Doesn't attempt to save all the money in the world, but brings back 4 guys that can actually play (to varying degrees) and could be moved in other trades after.

BOS in: Knecht, Rui, Marshall, Mann
BOS out: Jrue, KP, Tillman

DAL in: Jrue
DAL out: Gafford, Marshall, Martin

ATL in: KP, Martin
ATL out: Mann, Niang

LAL in: Gafford, Niang
LAL out: Rui, Knecht

BOS saves $16.3M here and gets 4 good younger players back.
You're a Hauser (or Marshall) to TPE and 2nds back from ducking the apron.

With 4 of the guys back and picks you can build an interesting trade package to consolidate since you're low on roster spots. But, you get decent value and savings back this way.

That really helps the Lakers.
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Post#1596 » by djFan71 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:46 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
djFan71 wrote:My daily DAL/ATL trade, now with Lakers. Doesn't attempt to save all the money in the world, but brings back 4 guys that can actually play (to varying degrees) and could be moved in other trades after.

BOS in: Knecht, Rui, Marshall, Mann
BOS out: Jrue, KP, Tillman

DAL in: Jrue
DAL out: Gafford, Marshall, Martin

ATL in: KP, Martin
ATL out: Mann, Niang

LAL in: Gafford, Niang
LAL out: Rui, Knecht

BOS saves $16.3M here and gets 4 good younger players back.
You're a Hauser (or Marshall) to TPE and 2nds back from ducking the apron.

With 4 of the guys back and picks you can build an interesting trade package to consolidate since you're low on roster spots. But, you get decent value and savings back this way.

That really helps the Lakers.

Yeah, but I still like the return for us. They're tough to get fair trades with since they don't have 2nds to balance anything. A lot depends on what you think of Knecht's value in a future trade.
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Post#1597 » by Triple7 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:52 pm

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playa-hater wrote:Don't shoot the messenger, but a Rumor of Josh Hart + Mitchell Robinson for Jrue and KP is now out there. Knicks thinking Jrue is a more reliable shooter and obviously KP far better on offense. Too lazy to see how the money works. But interesting to say the least.



I take that and run honestly.

Mitchell is a nice player and Josh is another Derrick White level impact player.

Honestly, just have Mitchell work with a shooting coach / Tatum non stop. If he developed a solid midrange jumper he is a great player, imo.


Pass on Mitchell. Dude is a liability with his horrible free throw shooting. Unplayeable at crunch time. We need two way players. Hart is a nice player though
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Post#1598 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:53 pm

What did Michael Scotto say? Who are our reported trade targets?
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Post#1599 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:54 pm

gammajamma wrote:
playa-hater wrote:Don't shoot the messenger, but a Rumor of Josh Hart + Mitchell Robinson for Jrue and KP is now out there. Knicks thinking Jrue is a more reliable shooter and obviously KP far better on offense. Too lazy to see how the money works. But interesting to say the least.



I think that is off by 30 mill from Knicks side



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Post#1600 » by djFan71 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:57 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
gammajamma wrote:
playa-hater wrote:Don't shoot the messenger, but a Rumor of Josh Hart + Mitchell Robinson for Jrue and KP is now out there. Knicks thinking Jrue is a more reliable shooter and obviously KP far better on offense. Too lazy to see how the money works. But interesting to say the least.



I think that is off by 30 mill from Knicks side



Dollar for Dollar match.

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32.4 in

You missed the KP part.

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