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2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1301 » by Yallbecrazy » Wed Jun 4, 2025 1:05 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Samson again mentioning raps are high on fears

Stupid lottery


Do we think Samson or any media actually has any sources inside the organization ?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1302 » by DG88 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 1:08 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:Samson again mentioning raps are high on fears

Stupid lottery

I have a feeling he might slip a bit because some other players like Essengue move up draft boards or someone slated higher falls down. It's possible that Fears could be there at 9. It all depends on Washington and Brooklyn.


Let’s hope. But all points to BRK having him tops on their board. Maybe they go Essengue if he’s not there. That seems to be the buzz now.

I've said it earlier but outside of the top 2 everything is fluid with this draft. I'm pretty sure Fears is very high on Brooklyn's board.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1303 » by WuTang_OG » Wed Jun 4, 2025 1:20 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:Samson again mentioning raps are high on fears

Stupid lottery


Do we think Samson or any media actually has any sources inside the organization ?


He's closer to the team than any of us
These guys hear things

he was the one who said we worked out gradey twice just before the draft when no one knew he was on our radar
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1304 » by dagger » Wed Jun 4, 2025 1:23 pm

I'm sure we are high on a lot of these guys. Several will make very good pros.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1305 » by MavCarter » Wed Jun 4, 2025 1:27 pm

I miss the days of draft workout lists being released followed by interviews with players in our gear. I still find it hard to understand what the big advantage of not releasing workouts is
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1306 » by WuTang_OG » Wed Jun 4, 2025 1:39 pm

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1307 » by grant101 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 1:39 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Samson again mentioning raps are high on fears

Stupid lottery


Do we think Samson or any media actually has any sources inside the organization ?


He's closer to the team than any of us
These guys hear things

he was the one who said we worked out gradey twice just before the draft when no one knew he was on our radar


He's also not one to spout off on insider knowledge very often. I believe it, and I see why they'd be so high on him. Fears is a stud, and one of the very few prospects outside of Flagg and Harper with star potential. That said the poor at rim finishing does worry me. I was very high on Blake Wesley and thought the finishing would come around given the quality of the looks he would routinely generate for himself (much like Fears). I was wrong. I think it happens for Fears as he grows into his body and works on his craft, but I admit, I could be wrong again.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1308 » by bboyskinnylegs » Wed Jun 4, 2025 1:47 pm

Fears is really young. Are there examples of guards who did a poor job finishing at the basket in college then thrived at it in the NBA?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1309 » by Bruin » Wed Jun 4, 2025 2:26 pm

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1310 » by dagger » Wed Jun 4, 2025 2:40 pm

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The problem here is the luxury tax. Johnson has a $20 million cap hit. If you think RJ Barrett is pricey at $25m, I'd argue the same about Johnson. I see no need for him, and I don't know who we would offload to make the salaries work unless this was part of a multi-team deal.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1311 » by grant101 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 2:43 pm

bboyskinnylegs wrote:Fears is really young. Are there examples of guards who did a poor job finishing at the basket in college then thrived at it in the NBA?


Ja Morant and Russell Westbrook - going by FG% - I don't have access to at-rim finishing numbers
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1312 » by grant101 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 2:47 pm

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The problem here is the luxury tax. Johnson has a $20 million cap hit. If you think RJ Barrett is pricey at $25m, I'd argue the same about Johnson. I see no need for him, and I don't know who we would offload to make the salaries work unless this was part of a multi-team deal.


I think the idea is that RJ goes out (I don't see what other salaries make sense). Cam is definitely the better fit, and I don't think the downgrade in draft position means much in terms of talent available (assuming there are no droppers @9). That said, I would ask that they swap 26 with 39 as well.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1313 » by MEDIC » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:01 pm

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The problem here is the luxury tax. Johnson has a $20 million cap hit. If you think RJ Barrett is pricey at $25m, I'd argue the same about Johnson. I see no need for him, and I don't know who we would offload to make the salaries work unless this was part of a multi-team deal.


I think the idea is that RJ goes out (I don't see what other salaries make sense). Cam is definitely the better fit, and I don't think the downgrade in draft position means much in terms of talent available (assuming there are no droppers @9). That said, I would ask that they swap 26 with 39 as well.


That's a horrible trade. Drop 10 draft spots just to swap RJ & Cam Johnson. Highway robbery for the Nets
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1314 » by PoundTown » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:02 pm

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The problem here is the luxury tax. Johnson has a $20 million cap hit. If you think RJ Barrett is pricey at $25m, I'd argue the same about Johnson. I see no need for him, and I don't know who we would offload to make the salaries work unless this was part of a multi-team deal.


I think the idea is that RJ goes out (I don't see what other salaries make sense). Cam is definitely the better fit, and I don't think the downgrade in draft position means much in terms of talent available (assuming there are no droppers @9). That said, I would ask that they swap 26 with 39 as well.


RJ + 9 + 39 for Cam Johnson, 19 and 26 would be a wild deal. I'd have Sorber in play at 19.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1315 » by grant101 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:09 pm

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The problem here is the luxury tax. Johnson has a $20 million cap hit. If you think RJ Barrett is pricey at $25m, I'd argue the same about Johnson. I see no need for him, and I don't know who we would offload to make the salaries work unless this was part of a multi-team deal.


I think the idea is that RJ goes out (I don't see what other salaries make sense). Cam is definitely the better fit, and I don't think the downgrade in draft position means much in terms of talent available (assuming there are no droppers @9). That said, I would ask that they swap 26 with 39 as well.


That's a horrible trade. Drop 10 draft spots just to swap RJ & Cam Johnson. Highway robbery for the Nets


Cam > RJ for our team, so I guess it depends on your evaluation of this draft's talent? Unless someone like Fears or Kneuppel drop, I'm not overly enthused by any of the other selections and think you can get pretty much equal value @19. Exactly who do you think we'd be missing out on? Also, @26 you can secure one of Yang or Markovic, or snap up any obvious fallers.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1316 » by CoinTossRoss31 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:13 pm

Is Cam that much better than hometown boy RJ?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1317 » by Godaddycurse » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:16 pm

CoinTossRoss31 wrote:Is Cam that much better than hometown boy RJ?


cam misses 25-30 games a year.. no thanks
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1318 » by Clutch0z24 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:17 pm

That trade is not happening....Move down 10 spots and trade RJ to get Cam....Makes no logical sense .....The gap between RJ-Cam as players is not big enough to move down 10 spots in the draft.....You move the pick in the "Big Fish" deal not for a marginal player at best.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1319 » by grant101 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:19 pm

CoinTossRoss31 wrote:Is Cam that much better than hometown boy RJ?


RJ is probably the better player in a vacuum, but Cam is a decent defender and consistent shooter that doesn't need the ball to be effective. It would balance out our roster and open the floor up for Scottie, Ingram and Quick. He's also paid a little less which gives us a little more breathing space.

My only concern would be that this would effectively take us out of the Giannis race. I think you only do it if it's clear you have no shot.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8 

Post#1320 » by bboyskinnylegs » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:24 pm

grant101 wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:Is Cam that much better than hometown boy RJ?


RJ is probably the better player in a vacuum, but Cam is a decent defender and consistent shooter that doesn't need the ball to be effective. It would balance out our roster and open the floor up for Scottie, Ingram and Quick. He's also paid a little less which gives us a little more breathing space.

My only concern would be that this would effectively take us out of the Giannis race. I think you only do it if it's clear you have no shot.

I think Yak would be the main salary heading out in a potential Cam trade. Their salaries are within 1M, and if we were to go after Giannis, Yak definitely wouldn't fit very well with him - while Cam would.

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