Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd

[KnixinSix]

I don't see them letting him go, forwards that can block shots and hit threes are at a premium. I actually think they'd trade JA before they trade JJJ, his rebounding sucks but the blocks & threes are still hard to come by.

May not have much of choice if JJJ indicates he is not going to re-up with the team. Bridges and maybe Mitch is not a bad consolation prize for them. Mitch is a game changer defensively (moreso than any on their roster) even if needed to be load managed.

Any way/scenario we could get Eddy in the trade?

Doubtful, but JJJ kind of fills that role enough. Huk in his 2nd year of development under a better developmental coach also may provide some quality minutes at the 5 too.

[KnixinSix]

If you saw right after our last loss to end the season, numerous hit pieces came out on Bridges and KAT.....

The KAT stuff referenced his defensive play in a coaches system who is no longer here.

The Bridges stuff referenced the Front office being very upset about his comments in the media. Its also a Front office that is still all here and a front office that likes players to keep complaints 'in-house'.

Bridges is on his final contract year , is not CAA, and Begley (the F.O. mouthpiece) already hinted its not a given he extends.

The KAT stuff may have also come out of Thibs camp and not really pushed out by the front office.

Do they keep both with Bridges getting a clean slate bc the fall guy became Thibs anyways?

If not, I would say Bridges is the more likely to go of the 2.

The coach getting fired with Begley saying it was player driven is another subtle hint that the onus is on this group of players (or a similar squad) now under a new coach to play much better.

Could they make a big move if it presented itself? Possibly. And if the other team willing to give the right superstar (Giannis, JJJ, Booker) has to have KAT then Im pretty sure Rose will do whats necessary to improve the team.

But right now unless Bridges and the front office mutually want to extend his contract after the new coach is hired, I most definitely can see them move on from Bridges first if the had their preference of which player to move.

Hart is an interesting one too because his value arguably goes down in a non Thibodeau coached team. However he is Brunson's bud and CAA.

[Guano]

I think whoever trades for Giannis has to sit him down, and explain to him that he should be playing center now. As he gets older that would make the most sense for him positionally, and would expose teams to having to defend him with their C if the other 4 players can shoot.

We dont have any real shooters on this team outside of kat and he is moving for Giannis.

Tbh, I dont love either kd or giannis. Giannis being on the wrong side of 30 is prolly a 3-4 years away from turning into Russ and kd is a carton of milk that is past its expiration date.

Giannis is still a generational talent who is not that old. Top 3 player in entire league and stud defender. You figure out how to make it work. You balance him with a good shooter like Divo and keep Shamet. You play him at 4 and 5.

There are numerous players that are top 3. Plus he is flawed and doesnt play off ball well at all his pairing with Brunson is messy like kat, too. He will need the ball. And he is going to age like milk in the sun cause he cant shoot for sht. A morelikabke tall Russ.

That said no player is truly perfect and he is a clear upgrade on the defensive end.

But it doesnt matter cause all our picks are tied into mikal so this is pointless. We might as well be talking about what super powers we would be the coolest.

[KnixinSix]

We dont have any real shooters on this team outside of kat and he is moving for Giannis.

Tbh, I dont love either kd or giannis. Giannis being on the wrong side of 30 is prolly a 3-4 years away from turning into Russ and kd is a carton of milk that is past its expiration date.

Giannis is still a generational talent who is not that old. Top 3 player in entire league and stud defender. You figure out how to make it work. You balance him with a good shooter like Divo and keep Shamet. You play him at 4 and 5.

There are numerous players that are top 3. Plus he is flawed and doesnt play off ball well at all his pairing with Brunson is messy like kat, too. He will need the ball. And he is going to age like milk in the sun cause he cant shoot for sht. A morelikabke tall Russ.

That said no player is truly perfect and he is a clear upgrade on the defensive end.

But it doesnt matter cause all our picks are tied into mikal so this is pointless. We might as well be talking about what super powers we would be the coolest.

Guano for a guy of his generational talent he doesnt come with the 33+ age or high injury risk tag that so many available superstars that are traded come with.

Also his freakish athleticism plays a lot better as a taller guy because nobody can block his shots and drives to the hoop.

Giannis is absolutely a guy you move a mountain to get and pair with Brunson. He pairs much better with Brunson than KAT does (and I love KAT).

There are very few players I'd move KAT + for and Giannis is on that very shortlist.

[Guano]

Giannis is still a generational talent who is not that old. Top 3 player in entire league and stud defender. You figure out how to make it work. You balance him with a good shooter like Divo and keep Shamet. You play him at 4 and 5.

There are numerous players that are top 3. Plus he is flawed and doesnt play off ball well at all his pairing with Brunson is messy like kat, too. He will need the ball. And he is going to age like milk in the sun cause he cant shoot for sht. A morelikabke tall Russ.

That said no player is truly perfect and he is a clear upgrade on the defensive end.

But it doesnt matter cause all our picks are tied into mikal so this is pointless. We might as well be talking about what super powers we would be the coolest.

Guano for a guy of his generational talent he doesnt come with the 33+ age or high injury risk tag that so many available superstars that are traded come with.

Also his freakish athleticism plays a lot better as a taller guy because nobody can block his shots and drives to the hoop.

Giannis is absolutely a guy you move a mountain to get and pair with Brunson. He pairs much better with Brunson than KAT does (and I love KAT).

There are very few players I'd move KAT + for and Giannis is on that very shortlist.

I dont disagree.

though I just dont like his game much if im being honest. His skills are weak and he gets by on pure athleticism. and that sht is goin to fall off a cliff

But its hard for me to truly care cause all our picks are going to Brooklyn. so this is pretty pointless

[KnixinSix]

There are numerous players that are top 3. Plus he is flawed and doesnt play off ball well at all his pairing with Brunson is messy like kat, too. He will need the ball. And he is going to age like milk in the sun cause he cant shoot for sht. A morelikabke tall Russ.

That said no player is truly perfect and he is a clear upgrade on the defensive end.

But it doesnt matter cause all our picks are tied into mikal so this is pointless. We might as well be talking about what super powers we would be the coolest.

Guano for a guy of his generational talent he doesnt come with the 33+ age or high injury risk tag that so many available superstars that are traded come with.

Also his freakish athleticism plays a lot better as a taller guy because nobody can block his shots and drives to the hoop.

Giannis is absolutely a guy you move a mountain to get and pair with Brunson. He pairs much better with Brunson than KAT does (and I love KAT).

There are very few players I'd move KAT + for and Giannis is on that very shortlist.

I dont disagree.

though I just dont like his game much if im being honest. His skills are weak and he gets by on pure athleticism. and that sht is goin to fall off a cliff

But its hard for me to truly care cause all our picks are going to Brooklyn. so this is pretty pointless

Oh yeah thats the other aspect I wanted to touch on.

Giannis is probably the only player I would consider moving BOTH Bridges and KAT for (with a role player like Portis or something useful coming back). JJJ/Bane would be the other I can currently think of but Bane is a star level player.

Depending on what Milwaukee wants , Bridges gets you the equivent of 3-4 FRPs (depending on proj quality of FRPs) and KAT (5FRPs). Do they want Bridges and more FRPs or KAT and a couple less. This can all go down in a 3 way trade (or 2 seperate trades). Knicks can absolutely be competitive with an offer in that type of format if they want a combination of picks and a high level sub 30 player.

[Guano]

Guano for a guy of his generational talent he doesnt come with the 33+ age or high injury risk tag that so many available superstars that are traded come with.

Also his freakish athleticism plays a lot better as a taller guy because nobody can block his shots and drives to the hoop.

Giannis is absolutely a guy you move a mountain to get and pair with Brunson. He pairs much better with Brunson than KAT does (and I love KAT).

There are very few players I'd move KAT + for and Giannis is on that very shortlist.

I dont disagree.

though I just dont like his game much if im being honest. His skills are weak and he gets by on pure athleticism. and that sht is goin to fall off a cliff

But its hard for me to truly care cause all our picks are going to Brooklyn. so this is pretty pointless

Oh yeah thats the other aspect I wanted to touch on.

Giannis is probably the only player I would consider moving BOTH Bridges and KAT for (with a role player like Portis or something useful coming back). JJJ/Bane would be the other I can currently think of but Bane is a star level player.

Depending on what Milwaukee wants , Bridges gets you the equivent of 3-4 FRPs (depending on proj quality of FRPs) and KAT (5FRPs). Do they want Bridges and more FRPs or KAT and a couple less. This can all go down in a 3 way trade (or 2 seperate trades). Knicks can absolutely be competitive with an offer in that type of format if they want a combination of picks and a high level sub 30 player.

Its more likely they're attaching kuzma with giannis than Portis.

[sol537]

We should hear this week about what Giannis’s intentions are since he’s meeting with the front office to discuss his future. A Shambs bomb is expected any day now….

[BowlRips]

Any logical destination for Hart out there?
Kings make sense to me, but struggling to name others.

[KnixinSix]

MIlwaukee, Miami, Phx ,NY 4 way blockbuster.....


Milwaukee outgoing:
Giannis (57.6M)
Kuzma (21.8)
Tyler Smith (1.9M)
Total= 81.3M

Miami outgoing:
Bam Adebayo (37.1M)
Andrew Wiggins (28.2M)
Kyle Anderson (9.2M)
Haywood Highsmith (5.6M)
Total=80.1M

New York outgoing:
KAT (53.1M)
Bridges (24.9M)
PJ Tucker (3.5M)
Total = 81.5M

Phoenix outgoing:
KD (54.7M)
Grayson Allen (16.8M)
Cody Martin (8.6M)
+3FRPs
Total=80.1M


=============================


Milwaukee incoming:
Bam Adebayo (37.1M)
Bridges (24.9M)
Kyle Anderson (9.2M)
Haywood Highsmith (5.6M)
PJ Tucker (3.5M)
+1PHX FRP
Total=80.3M

Miami incoming:
KD (54.7M)
Cody Martin (8.6M)
Grayson Allen (16.8M)
+2PHX FRPs
Total=80.1M

New York incoming:
Giannis (57.6M)
Kuzma (21.8)
Tyler Smith (1.9M)
Total = 81.3M

Phoenix incoming:
KAT (53.1M)
Andrew Wiggins (28.2M)
Total= 81.3M

[sol537]

MIlwaukee, Miami, Phx ,NY 4 way blockbuster.....


Milwaukee outgoing:
Giannis (57.6M)
Kuzma (21.8)
Tyler Smith (1.9M)
Total= 81.3M

Miami outgoing:
Bam Adebayo (37.1M)
Andrew Wiggins (28.2M)
Kyle Anderson (9.2M)
Haywood Highsmith (5.6M)
Total=80.1M

New York outgoing:
KAT (53.1M)
Bridges (24.9M)
PJ Tucker (3.5M)
Total = 81.5M

Phoenix outgoing:
KD (54.7M)
Grayson Allen (16.8M)
Cody Martin (8.6M)
+3FRPs
Total=80.1M


=============================


Milwaukee incoming:
Bam Adebayo (37.1M)
Bridges (24.9M)
Kyle Anderson (9.2M)
Haywood Highsmith (5.6M)
PJ Tucker (3.5M)
+1PHX FRP
Total=80.3M

Miami incoming:
KD (54.7M)
Cody Martin (8.6M)
Grayson Allen (16.8M)
+2PHX FRPs
Total=80.1M

New York incoming:
Giannis (57.6M)
Kuzma (21.8)
Tyler Smith (1.9M)
Total = 81.3M

Phoenix incoming:
KAT (53.1M)
Andrew Wiggins (28.2M)
Total= 81.3M

That's actually... not terrible. I imagine any Giannis to NY trade would take 3 or 4 or even 5 teams to get involved. The blockbuster of blockbusters. Let's see what Giannis's camp says about his future in MIL. I imagine he's going to ask out and NY will be one of the 3-5 teams on his list.

[KnixinSix]

MIlwaukee, Miami, Phx ,NY 4 way blockbuster.....


Milwaukee outgoing:
Giannis (57.6M)
Kuzma (21.8)
Tyler Smith (1.9M)
Total= 81.3M

Miami outgoing:
Bam Adebayo (37.1M)
Andrew Wiggins (28.2M)
Kyle Anderson (9.2M)
Haywood Highsmith (5.6M)
Total=80.1M

New York outgoing:
KAT (53.1M)
Bridges (24.9M)
PJ Tucker (3.5M)
Total = 81.5M

Phoenix outgoing:
KD (54.7M)
Grayson Allen (16.8M)
Cody Martin (8.6M)
+3FRPs
Total=80.1M


=============================


Milwaukee incoming:
Bam Adebayo (37.1M)
Bridges (24.9M)
Kyle Anderson (9.2M)
Haywood Highsmith (5.6M)
PJ Tucker (3.5M)
+1PHX FRP
Total=80.3M

Miami incoming:
KD (54.7M)
Cody Martin (8.6M)
Grayson Allen (16.8M)
+2PHX FRPs
Total=80.1M

New York incoming:
Giannis (57.6M)
Kuzma (21.8)
Tyler Smith (1.9M)
Total = 81.3M

Phoenix incoming:
KAT (53.1M)
Andrew Wiggins (28.2M)
Total= 81.3M

That's actually... not terrible. I imagine any Giannis to NY trade would take 3 or 4 or even 5 teams to get involved. The blockbuster of blockbusters. Let's see what Giannis's camp says about his future in MIL. I imagine he's going to ask out and NY will be one of the 3-5 teams on his list.

I'm trying to go some off the latest reports / rumors out there.

Why Miami does it.....
Supposedly KD wants Miami and Miami wants him . They lose Bam but still have KeLel Ware and Thomas Bryant as their Centers.They get a PHX 1FRP (or two) back in the deal due to KDs shorter term window.


Why PHX does it.....
Phoenix loves Towns and he is Booker's buddy. They would love to pair them together. And they get Wiggins who is a pretty good wing defender. They make out a bit , even though KD is a legend he is on the backend of his career. So they need to chip in with 3 FRPs to even everything out.

Why Milwaukee does it.....
Milwaukee gets what they can in terms of 2 defensive 2 way players in a re-shape of the roster to team with Lillard for a very bare roster (they have very few players under contract this year) . Bridges is a much better player than when he is the 4th option on the team. As he was often with us. They remain competitive with those two pieces and they also get a PHX FRP (or two) to sweeten the deal.

Why New York does it.....
Well...It's Giannis. He's still 30 and has a number of years of prime left. He's the best player in the trade. He complements Brunson really well vs. a more defensively challenged KAT, he can play a switching defense and guard 4 or 5's really well. Mitch though a defensive stud big , he is simply not a reliable option to stay healthy. Huk is an unknown quantity still. Kuzma adds scoring and happens to be ....CAA.

[Richard4444]

Outside of the Ujiri connection why in the world would he want to go to TOR? Giannis is a big enough star to think he will have some say in where he goes.

Especially with TOR basically going to have to gut there team to get him. He would be in the the same/worst situation then he is right now.

The Masai connection is pretty massive, not something you can just brush off, they're both on record talking about how much they mean to one another.

Watch on YouTube

Would they really have to gut their team? You start with Scottie Barnes, then work out from there. Barnes, RJ, Dick, the pick this year, future picks.

to me KAT's way more valuable than Barnes and that. Honestly think OG is a better piece than Barnes.

Giannis goes to TOR to play with IQ as his second best player? I don't see it if Giannis is all about winning. He's going to have an issue with that. Ujiri might want him but not sure is see why Giannis would want to go there.

If I'm giannis I would much rather go to San Antonio or something like that. If he would be ok living there. Because he would be playing with a generational talent and they could legit win it all which he says is important to him at this stage in his career.

I think Barnes has great value. He only 23 years old and his salary is not super-maxed. KAT is old and very expensive.

But I agree it will be tough for Giannis going to the Raptors to team up with IQ, RJ or Poertl. Event if they keep Barnes, it would not be a great pairing.

[sol537]

There was a rumor that Toronto was ready to go all in for Giannis and KD to pair them together. I doubt it materializes but an interesting rumor, nonetheless.

[Richard4444]

I think whoever trades for Giannis has to sit him down, and explain to him that he should be playing center now. As he gets older that would make the most sense for him positionally, and would expose teams to having to defend him with their C if the other 4 players can shoot.

C: Giannis
PF: OG
SF: ? (Can't be Hart)
SG: Mikal
C: Brunson

Who is the SF or shooting guard? Deuce? Doesn't seem like a chip' team. Divo?

SF might be one of Pacome and McCullars. Otherwise, sure, needs someone. DDV fits for synergy, but as a player doesn't seem like an above average option.

Nobody trusts them. Pacome is currently Knox clone. His G league numbers are not great.

Mclullars is a totally question mark.

I think front office trust Delon and Shamet way more.

[Richard4444]

I think its hilarious this logic:

KAT as everybody knows is a defensive liability with loser mentality who makes a lot of silly fouls while receives a supermax salary that destroys your franchise"s team building potential under the new CBA.

So lets trade him for a superstar in his peak or for a young and cheap 2 way star because the other franchises are stupid.

[Woodsanity]

Yea we cant get Giannis unless he forces his way to NY. Durant would probably be doable but he is very old so I don't think a Kat for Durant trade is necessarily worth it at this point.

[mpharris36]

I think its hilarious this logic:

KAT as everybody knows is a defensive liability with loser mentality who makes a lot of silly fouls while receives a supermax salary that destroys your franchise"s team building potential under the new CBA.

So lets trade him for a superstar in his peak or for a young and cheap 2 way star because the other franchises are stupid.

I also think this is hilarious logic.

KAT was an all-star starter...3rd team all NBA. In his prime and been one of the best players on two straight teams that went to the conference finals in both the east and west.

+6.8 NET rating
13th in the entire NBA is plus-minus
10th in the NBA in LEBRON WAR
24 and 15 on 53/42/83 splits.
63% True Shooting

and he sucks and no one would ever want him but he only helps his team win wherever he goes

Read on Twitter

he isn't without flaws but this attack on KAT not being an excellent basketball player needs to stop.

[KnixinSix]

I think its hilarious this logic:

KAT as everybody knows is a defensive liability with loser mentality who makes a lot of silly fouls while receives a supermax salary that destroys your franchise"s team building potential under the new CBA.

So lets trade him for a superstar in his peak or for a young and cheap 2 way star because the other franchises are stupid.

That's just a horrible myopic take on KAT. KAT over last two playoffs with two different teams had many dominant games. And under Lynch he wasn't being forced to constantly switch and/or cover a ton of ground like he was under THibs (which is obviously not his strength for a bigger bodied 7 footer)

[mpharris36]

Scottie Barnes who just signed a massive 5 year 225 MM contract with a 52% TS and poor defense with no winning history = drool over

KAT, objectively a top 15-20 player in the sport by nearly every metric = roster killer (negative asset).

what are we doing here?