Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd

[SARGO127]

Thinking out loud.

Does moving the lottery protected Wiz pick back to Washington do anything for them? Like open up the ability to move more future picks?

I am wondering if they’d be interested in sending us #18 for the pick and some seconds. It would be wise to try and add a first to get cheap rotational pieces.

[HerSports85]

I think its hilarious this logic:

KAT as everybody knows is a defensive liability with loser mentality who makes a lot of silly fouls while receives a supermax salary that destroys your franchise"s team building potential under the new CBA.

So lets trade him for a superstar in his peak or for a young and cheap 2 way star because the other franchises are stupid.

[thebuzzardman]

I'm sort of out on this topic for a while, because all I'll be doing is saying the Knicks need to break up one of OG/Mikal and Hart, that the Knicks might be after JJJ, and that it could be for KAT (bigger deal) or Mikal, so JJJ plays WITH KAT.

Time to just wait until after the finals and whenever the rumor mill/real stuff starting happening

[Knicksfan1992]

Thinking out loud.

Does moving the lottery protected Wiz pick back to Washington do anything for them? Like open up the ability to move more future picks?

I am wondering if they’d be interested in sending us #18 for the pick and some seconds. It would be wise to try and add a first to get cheap rotational pieces.

Only if they plan on trading their 2027 1st because currently they can't because of Stepien rules....

My guess is they have no interest in doing that because they suck lol.

My guess is in an abstract way trading with us may be more attractive if we want something specific from them because they could ensure that they keep their pick but it's hard to envision them not being in the lottery next year.

Maybe if we have interest in Marcus Smart or Middleton?

[R-DAWG]

I think JJJ is the target. Not sure if for the 4 or 5

JJJ/KAT are basically interchangeable at the 4/5. And if you’re building a team around KAT, finding a guy who pairs with him the way JJJ does is a big priority.

During the season an OG for JJJ trade idea was thrown around on these boards. I was a fan of that kind of move because I thought it was maximizing KAT.

A starting front court of Anunoby/JJJ/KAT with Hart and Robinson off the bench is as good as it gets.

You then have Brunson in the backcourt, use the tax MLE to sign a starting SG even if we are talking a Malik Beasley/Gary Trent Jr level player. McBride makes you 8 deep with a minimum salary guy like Shamet to round out the rotation.

Brunson/Trent Jr/Anunoby/JJJ/KAT
McBride/Shamet/Hart/Robinson

Keep Precious around as Mitch insurance and give Kolek and Dadiet an opportunity to earn spot minutes.

Under a new coach who in theory utilizes them properly would be lethal. KAT needs a defensive counter-balance that can play the 5 (and more reliable than Mitch). JJJ has deep Rose/CAA connections and is on the final year of his deal. It makes a ton of sense.

I also love you MLE idea for Trent or Beasily. But I also believe Divo is not out of the question either. If he was lighting it up as much as he was here with his Nova buddies then no way we could get him but Minny Divo was not NY Divo. I think McBride, Kolek and some other filler could get him potentially.

We HAVE to drop this DiVo idea unless you’re moving a big salary. It just doesn’t work under the apron and makes our depth issues work.

The last thing we need is to do another overpay because of Villanova. It’s already out the franchise in a bad enough position.

[KnixinSix]

JJJ/KAT are basically interchangeable at the 4/5. And if you’re building a team around KAT, finding a guy who pairs with him the way JJJ does is a big priority.

During the season an OG for JJJ trade idea was thrown around on these boards. I was a fan of that kind of move because I thought it was maximizing KAT.

A starting front court of Anunoby/JJJ/KAT with Hart and Robinson off the bench is as good as it gets.

You then have Brunson in the backcourt, use the tax MLE to sign a starting SG even if we are talking a Malik Beasley/Gary Trent Jr level player. McBride makes you 8 deep with a minimum salary guy like Shamet to round out the rotation.

Brunson/Trent Jr/Anunoby/JJJ/KAT
McBride/Shamet/Hart/Robinson

Keep Precious around as Mitch insurance and give Kolek and Dadiet an opportunity to earn spot minutes.

Under a new coach who in theory utilizes them properly would be lethal. KAT needs a defensive counter-balance that can play the 5 (and more reliable than Mitch). JJJ has deep Rose/CAA connections and is on the final year of his deal. It makes a ton of sense.

I also love you MLE idea for Trent or Beasily. But I also believe Divo is not out of the question either. If he was lighting it up as much as he was here with his Nova buddies then no way we could get him but Minny Divo was not NY Divo. I think McBride, Kolek and some other filler could get him potentially.

We HAVE to drop this DiVo idea unless you’re moving a big salary. It just doesn’t work under the apron and makes our depth issues work.

The last thing we need is to do another overpay because of Villanova. It’s already out the franchise in a bad enough position.

Divo is at 11.99 so he is not ridiculously expensive.

McBride (4.33) + Kolek (2.2)+ Dadiet (2.8)+ PJ Tucker (3.5- team option)

It absolutely can work with one good role player (McBride) and 3 guys who barely saw the floor this year.

[KnixinSix]

MIlwaukee, Miami, Phx ,NY 4 way blockbuster.....


Milwaukee outgoing:
Giannis (57.6M)
Kuzma (21.8)
Tyler Smith (1.9M)
Total= 81.3M

Miami outgoing:
Bam Adebayo (37.1M)
Andrew Wiggins (28.2M)
Kyle Anderson (9.2M)
Haywood Highsmith (5.6M)
Total=80.1M

New York outgoing:
KAT (53.1M)
Bridges (24.9M)
PJ Tucker (3.5M)
Total = 81.5M

Phoenix outgoing:
KD (54.7M)
Grayson Allen (16.8M)
Cody Martin (8.6M)
+3FRPs
Total=80.1M


=============================


Milwaukee incoming:
Bam Adebayo (37.1M)
Bridges (24.9M)
Kyle Anderson (9.2M)
Haywood Highsmith (5.6M)
PJ Tucker (3.5M)
+1PHX FRP
Total=80.3M

Miami incoming:
KD (54.7M)
Cody Martin (8.6M)
Grayson Allen (16.8M)
+2PHX FRPs
Total=80.1M

New York incoming:
Giannis (57.6M)
Kuzma (21.8)
Tyler Smith (1.9M)
Total = 81.3M

Phoenix incoming:
KAT (53.1M)
Andrew Wiggins (28.2M)
Total= 81.3M

That's actually... not terrible. I imagine any Giannis to NY trade would take 3 or 4 or even 5 teams to get involved. The blockbuster of blockbusters. Let's see what Giannis's camp says about his future in MIL. I imagine he's going to ask out and NY will be one of the 3-5 teams on his list.

I'm trying to go some off the latest reports / rumors out there.

Why Miami does it.....
Supposedly KD wants Miami and Miami wants him . They lose Bam but still have KeLel Ware and Thomas Bryant as their Centers.They get a PHX 1FRP (or two) back in the deal due to KDs shorter term window.


Why PHX does it.....
Phoenix loves Towns and he is Booker's buddy. They would love to pair them together. And they get Wiggins who is a pretty good wing defender. They make out a bit , even though KD is a legend he is on the backend of his career. So they need to chip in with 3 FRPs to even everything out.

Why Milwaukee does it.....
Milwaukee gets what they can in terms of 2 defensive 2 way players in a re-shape of the roster to team with Lillard for a very bare roster (they have very few players under contract this year) . Bridges is a much better player than when he is the 4th option on the team. As he was often with us. They remain competitive with those two pieces and they also get a PHX FRP (or two) to sweeten the deal.

Why New York does it.....
Well...It's Giannis. He's still 30 and has a number of years of prime left. He's the best player in the trade. He complements Brunson really well vs. a more defensively challenged KAT, he can play a switching defense and guard 4 or 5's really well. Mitch though a defensive stud big , he is simply not a reliable option to stay healthy. Huk is an unknown quantity still. Kuzma adds scoring and happens to be ....CAA.

The follow up to this deal is McBride, Kolek, Dadiet and filler for Divo.....


Giannis/Mitch/Huk
OG/Giannis
Kuzma/Hart/Shamet
Divo/Hart/Wright
Brunson/Divo/Wright

[Richard4444]

I think its hilarious this logic:

KAT as everybody knows is a defensive liability with loser mentality who makes a lot of silly fouls while receives a supermax salary that destroys your franchise"s team building potential under the new CBA.

So lets trade him for a superstar in his peak or for a young and cheap 2 way star because the other franchises are stupid.

That's just a horrible myopic take on KAT. KAT over last two playoffs with two different teams had many dominant games. And under Lynch he wasn't being forced to constantly switch and/or cover a ton of ground like he was under THibs (which is obviously not his strength for a bigger bodied 7 footer)

My point is the same people that want KAT gone (because his flaws) think he is very valuable around the league to be the best player in a Giannis trade (without picks). I dont understand this logic.

I dont want to get rid of KAT because I like his game. Especially under a another coach.

Of course, I would trade him for Giannis. However, I dont expect his value being very high.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Three way trades are difficult enough, four way trades are pretty unlikely.

[douggood]

Three way trades are difficult enough, four way trades are pretty unlikely.

not to mention rules about teams in apron like knicks suns etc,

cannot aggregate, cannot take back more salary incoming then outgoing, no s&t etc etc

[sol537]

Three way trades are difficult enough, four way trades are pretty unlikely.

not to mention rules about teams in apron like kniks suns etc,

cannot aggregate, cannot take back more salary incoming then outgoing, no s&t etc etc

3 and 4 team trades are actually becoming more common due to the new CBA...

[KnixinSix]

I think its hilarious this logic:

KAT as everybody knows is a defensive liability with loser mentality who makes a lot of silly fouls while receives a supermax salary that destroys your franchise"s team building potential under the new CBA.

So lets trade him for a superstar in his peak or for a young and cheap 2 way star because the other franchises are stupid.

That's just a horrible myopic take on KAT. KAT over last two playoffs with two different teams had many dominant games. And under Lynch he wasn't being forced to constantly switch and/or cover a ton of ground like he was under THibs (which is obviously not his strength for a bigger bodied 7 footer)

My point is the same people that want KAT gone (because his flaws) think he is very valuable around the league to be the best player in a Giannis trade (without picks). I dont understand this logic.

I dont want to get rid of KAT because I like his game. Especially under a another coach.

Of course, I would trade him for Giannis. However, I dont expect his value being very high.

Paired with brunson is what makes the roster construction a bit less than ideal. He has plenty of value around the league. And we are also talking Giannis who is a top 3 player for a top 15 player in KAT. Milwaukee might not get a better offer than KAT in terms of level of player as the headliner of the package. Pheonix clearly wants him too.

[thebuzzardman]

Giannis
JJJ
OG
Deuce
Brunson

Get it done Leon

[aq_ua]

Under a new coach who in theory utilizes them properly would be lethal. KAT needs a defensive counter-balance that can play the 5 (and more reliable than Mitch). JJJ has deep Rose/CAA connections and is on the final year of his deal. It makes a ton of sense.

I also love you MLE idea for Trent or Beasily. But I also believe Divo is not out of the question either. If he was lighting it up as much as he was here with his Nova buddies then no way we could get him but Minny Divo was not NY Divo. I think McBride, Kolek and some other filler could get him potentially.

We HAVE to drop this DiVo idea unless you’re moving a big salary. It just doesn’t work under the apron and makes our depth issues work.

The last thing we need is to do another overpay because of Villanova. It’s already out the franchise in a bad enough position.

Divo is at 11.99 so he is not ridiculously expensive.

McBride (4.33) + Kolek (2.2)+ Dadiet (2.8)+ PJ Tucker (3.5- team option)

It absolutely can work with one good role player (McBride) and 3 guys who barely saw the floor this year.

I’ll just point out that under this CBA, we have very little room to add incremental contracts. Which means if we trade away and aggregate our smaller ones, we simply won’t be able to sign anyone as our 11-15 without breaching the second apron. That’s just not something we’re going to be doing.

[JayTWill]

It's hard for me to get into these wild trade proposals without even knowing who the new head coach will be and what his philosophies will be. At this point it may just make more sense to run it back with a new coach and then see what adjustments need to be made rather than just throwing a random group together and hoping they fit with the new coach. KAT didn't seem like a good fit with Thibs. Maybe Giannis or whoever may not be the right fit with the next coach.

[KnixinSix]

We HAVE to drop this DiVo idea unless you’re moving a big salary. It just doesn’t work under the apron and makes our depth issues work.

The last thing we need is to do another overpay because of Villanova. It’s already out the franchise in a bad enough position.

Divo is at 11.99 so he is not ridiculously expensive.

McBride (4.33) + Kolek (2.2)+ Dadiet (2.8)+ PJ Tucker (3.5- team option)

It absolutely can work with one good role player (McBride) and 3 guys who barely saw the floor this year.

I’ll just point out that under this CBA, we have very little room to add incremental contracts. Which means if we trade away and aggregate our smaller ones, we simply won’t be able to sign anyone as our 11-15 without breaching the second apron. That’s just not something we’re going to be doing.

Yea I hear you but Divo at 11.9 is doable.

[KnixinSix]

Giannis
JJJ
OG
Deuce
Brunson

Get it done Leon

Lol wouldn't that be something. Do you prefer Giannis for KAT and Bridges or JJJ, Clarke for Bridges, Mitch while keeping KAT.

[Richard4444]

It's hard for me to get into these wild trade proposals without even knowing who the new head coach will be and what his philosophies will be. At this point it may just make more sense to run it back with a new coach and then see what adjustments need to be made rather than just throwing a random group together and hoping they fit with the new coach. KAT didn't seem like a good fit with Thibs. Maybe Giannis or whoever may not be the right fit with the next coach.

I think we will first make a decision about the core players and only then about the new coach.

Its much more difficult to pull a trade for a star player than to define who will be our next coach.

[Garbagelo]

so a superstar trade is in the works

[RHODEY]

Under a new coach who in theory utilizes them properly would be lethal. KAT needs a defensive counter-balance that can play the 5 (and more reliable than Mitch). JJJ has deep Rose/CAA connections and is on the final year of his deal. It makes a ton of sense.

I also love you MLE idea for Trent or Beasily. But I also believe Divo is not out of the question either. If he was lighting it up as much as he was here with his Nova buddies then no way we could get him but Minny Divo was not NY Divo. I think McBride, Kolek and some other filler could get him potentially.

We HAVE to drop this DiVo idea unless you’re moving a big salary. It just doesn’t work under the apron and makes our depth issues work.

The last thing we need is to do another overpay because of Villanova. It’s already out the franchise in a bad enough position.

Divo is at 11.99 so he is not ridiculously expensive.

McBride (4.33) + Kolek (2.2)+ Dadiet (2.8)+ PJ Tucker (3.5- team option)

It absolutely can work with one good role player (McBride) and 3 guys who barely saw the floor this year.

I'm not giving up all that future potential and present production for Ragu. Those guys a bound to see a bump in playing time this upcoming season and really Dadiet and Kolek could become better players eventually.Bad value move imo.