The next Knicks head coach

[tamaraw08]

MIchael Malone, Taylor Jenkins, Budenholzer and Monty Williams would all be choices I'd be generally ok with. Actually pretty crazy how many quality coaches currently are available. You have 3 coaches that made it at least to the finals within the last 5 years. Monty would also be fun from the perspective that he was a rookie for the Knicks when I really got into Basketball and was still collecting cards.

No one on that list is any sort of upgrade over Thibs. They can't hire a retread. It has to be someone new or a truly great coach, and there isn't one out there, unless JVG wants the gig. Thibs has been basically been a clone of his, but I'd be willing to bet Van Gundy would look a lot different now than he did in his last HC gig. In the end it's likely going to be Bryant.

I don't think JVG works anymore in today's league, he hasn't been a headcoach for almost 20 years. Also it's a bit wild to say that none of them would be an upgrade over Thibs when 2 of them recently won a title. Taylor Jenkins was fired when his team was 44-29. To expect that some completely new head coach comes in and does a better job than any of those 4 I mentioned is extremely unlikely.

Who qualifies then in your eyes as a truly great head coach, if none of these 4 do? The other head coaches that won a title in the last 10 seasons are Mazzulla, Kerr, Vogel, Nurse & Lue. All of them are under contract besides Vogel and besides Kerr I wouldn't see any of them as a better candidate as Budenholzer or Malone.

JVG was very active and engage as an assistant coach for the Clippers. Also played a major part of the Boston staff as a consultant when they won it all. Was an analyst for ESPN during games for like 4-6 years or so. Having said that, I don't think he should get that stressful gig in NY.
I also don't understand some fans wanting a rookie coach because they think re-threads would not be an upgrade.
Vogel was a rethread and won with the Lakers. Bud was a re-thread and won in Milwaukee.
Both Brown and Malone were re-threads and did well for their former teams.
Yes, OKC coach and Finch look good but other rookies didn't exactly do well like that Toronto, Washington coaches.

[cgf]

I'm hoping for Bryant or Cassell, assuming we can't steal Spo or Finch.

Pretty sure that's as good an assumption as anyone has ever made.

It's the NBA, I assume nothing

[cgf]

Mike Malone is my gut feeling....but it won't matter. The roster, per usual, is the core issue that those cowards in the FO (namely Dolan & Leon) don't wanna address. All this does is feed the delusion that Thibs was the issue.

Leon and the gang have completely revamped the roster over just the last two years. I.e., this FO is very willing and able to make the tough decisions (to include getting rid of Thibs).

I just hope they don't flub the new coaching hire--and choosing Malone would be a definite flub in my opinion.

Agreed. They've earned the benefit of the doubt, but if they fired Thibs to hire a dud that will be a big black mark that they need to rectify ASAP.

[cgf]

It's gonna be Mike Malone or Jason Kidd.

Nope.

It'll be a very very Knicks thing to do. Lol

Fire Thibs ....... hire Malone/Kidd.

TBF , Malone is probably a good fit. East coast guy. Championship coach. Thibs lite.

Yeah, that just doesn't sound like a very Knicks thing to do

[KGtabake]

Malone is a no brainer. Championship only 2 seasons ago. Someone Knicks fans could vibe with. I’d be shocked if it weren’t him

Mike Malone has a ring because of Jokic, lol. Mike Malone would be no different than Thibs.

In any case, it's not going to be him.

Malone has a ring because of Jokic.
Budenholzer has a ring because of Giannis.
Nurse has a ring because of Leonard.
Lue has a ring because of James.
All the above would be no different than Thibs.

Do you really believe this?

[Pattycakes]

It’s Mike Malone close the poll. Dumb question lol

[jkvonny]

Nope.

It'll be a very very Knicks thing to do. Lol

Fire Thibs ....... hire Malone/Kidd.

TBF , Malone is probably a good fit. East coast guy. Championship coach. Thibs lite.

Yeah, that just doesn't sound like a very Knicks thing to do

Lol.

It is

[NY2k1]

Malone is a no brainer. Championship only 2 seasons ago. Someone Knicks fans could vibe with. I’d be shocked if it weren’t him

Mike Malone has a ring because of Jokic, lol. Mike Malone would be no different than Thibs.

In any case, it's not going to be him.

Malone has a ring because of Jokic.
Budenholzer has a ring because of Giannis.
Nurse has a ring because of Leonard.
Lue has a ring because of James.
All the above would be no different than Thibs.

Do you really believe this?

I'm not going to speak on the other names, but Mike Malone would be Thibs 2.0

[MrBigShot]

People saying mike malone would be thibs are wrong.

Mike Malone has never had a rep as a guy who can squeeze every last bit of talent out of a roster like Thibs always. I like Taylor Jenkins a lot. Frank Vogel is another guy they should seriously consider...Suns dropped from 6th seed to 11th seed after firing him and hiring Bud.

[bkkrh]

No one on that list is any sort of upgrade over Thibs. They can't hire a retread. It has to be someone new or a truly great coach, and there isn't one out there, unless JVG wants the gig. Thibs has been basically been a clone of his, but I'd be willing to bet Van Gundy would look a lot different now than he did in his last HC gig. In the end it's likely going to be Bryant.

I don't think JVG works anymore in today's league, he hasn't been a headcoach for almost 20 years. Also it's a bit wild to say that none of them would be an upgrade over Thibs when 2 of them recently won a title. Taylor Jenkins was fired when his team was 44-29. To expect that some completely new head coach comes in and does a better job than any of those 4 I mentioned is extremely unlikely.

Who qualifies then in your eyes as a truly great head coach, if none of these 4 do? The other head coaches that won a title in the last 10 seasons are Mazzulla, Kerr, Vogel, Nurse & Lue. All of them are under contract besides Vogel and besides Kerr I wouldn't see any of them as a better candidate as Budenholzer or Malone.

JVG was very active and engage as an assistant coach for the Clippers. Also played a major part of the Boston staff as a consultant when they won it all. Was an analyst for ESPN during games for like 4-6 years or so. Having said that, I don't think he should get that stressful gig in NY.
I also don't understand some fans wanting a rookie coach because they think re-threads would not be an upgrade.
Vogel was a rethread and won with the Lakers. Bud was a re-thread and won in Milwaukee.
Both Brown and Malone were re-threads and did well for their former teams.
Yes, OKC coach and Finch look good but other rookies didn't exactly do well like that Toronto, Washington coaches.

Generally I would of course be happy if Van Gundy comes back and it works out. Just found it a bit weird that the original responder basically bashed 4 recently successful coaches and then names him as a better option. He's my all time favorite Knicks coach but he's 63 by now, not an active head coach for almost 20 years and we were still in another millenium when he made it to the finals.

I feel a lot of people here have a similar mentality related to this as with draft pick trades, hoping that the All Star I trade for those picks lands me a future franchise player, while getting a similar player than the one I just traded would already be an above average outcome in the end.
There are so many examples of young, promising and highly regarded rookie coaches failing, or at best having mediocre success and being an assistant coach or completely out of the league after 2-3 seasons.

And even if they have success, it is still very unlikely that it will come close to Budenholzer turning the Hawks from a low seed Playoff team within 2 season into a 60 win team that makes it to the Conference finals, then repeating the exact same thing with the Bucks in his first season there and winning a title with them later on.

It's almost like they have trainer fatigue, where constantly successfull trainers start to look overrated, since there is no possibility for improvement any more.

[NyKnicks1714]

MIchael Malone, Taylor Jenkins, Budenholzer and Monty Williams would all be choices I'd be generally ok with. Actually pretty crazy how many quality coaches currently are available. You have 3 coaches that made it at least to the finals within the last 5 years. Monty would also be fun from the perspective that he was a rookie for the Knicks when I really got into Basketball and was still collecting cards.

No one on that list is any sort of upgrade over Thibs. They can't hire a retread. It has to be someone new or a truly great coach, and there isn't one out there, unless JVG wants the gig. Thibs has been basically been a clone of his, but I'd be willing to bet Van Gundy would look a lot different now than he did in his last HC gig. In the end it's likely going to be Bryant.

I don't think JVG works anymore in today's league, he hasn't been a headcoach for almost 20 years. Also it's a bit wild to say that none of them would be an upgrade over Thibs when 2 of them recently won a title. Taylor Jenkins was fired when his team was 44-29. To expect that some completely new head coach comes in and does a better job than any of those 4 I mentioned is extremely unlikely.

Who qualifies then in your eyes as a truly great head coach, if none of these 4 do? The other head coaches that won a title in the last 10 seasons are Mazzulla, Kerr, Vogel, Nurse & Lue. All of them are under contract besides Vogel and besides Kerr I wouldn't see any of them as a better candidate as Budenholzer or Malone.

As far as available coaches? No one. That's the point. There's no one that's a clear improvement over Thibs.

[tmorgan]

MIchael Malone, Taylor Jenkins, Budenholzer and Monty Williams would all be choices I'd be generally ok with. Actually pretty crazy how many quality coaches currently are available. You have 3 coaches that made it at least to the finals within the last 5 years. Monty would also be fun from the perspective that he was a rookie for the Knicks when I really got into Basketball and was still collecting cards.

No one on that list is any sort of upgrade over Thibs. They can't hire a retread. It has to be someone new or a truly great coach, and there isn't one out there, unless JVG wants the gig. Thibs has been basically been a clone of his, but I'd be willing to bet Van Gundy would look a lot different now than he did in his last HC gig. In the end it's likely going to be Bryant.

I don't think JVG works anymore in today's league, he hasn't been a headcoach for almost 20 years. Also it's a bit wild to say that none of them would be an upgrade over Thibs when 2 of them recently won a title. Taylor Jenkins was fired when his team was 44-29. To expect that some completely new head coach comes in and does a better job than any of those 4 I mentioned is extremely unlikely.

Who qualifies then in your eyes as a truly great head coach, if none of these 4 do? The other head coaches that won a title in the last 10 seasons are Mazzulla, Kerr, Vogel, Nurse & Lue. All of them are under contract besides Vogel and besides Kerr I wouldn't see any of them as a better candidate as Budenholzer or Malone.

When you included Monty on your list you made everyone else look bad. Monty is a bum.

[durden_tyler]

It'd be funny if it's just Jeff Van Gundy-- not on quality of coaching but just if they go from old school to old school

[HMFFL]

MIchael Malone, Taylor Jenkins, Budenholzer and Monty Williams would all be choices I'd be generally ok with. Actually pretty crazy how many quality coaches currently are available. You have 3 coaches that made it at least to the finals within the last 5 years. Monty would also be fun from the perspective that he was a rookie for the Knicks when I really got into Basketball and was still collecting cards.

Coach Bud and Monty Williams are both overrated. They proved it themselves.

Bud being laid $56 million to not coach must be nice. Knicks need to stay far away.

[bkkrh]

No one on that list is any sort of upgrade over Thibs. They can't hire a retread. It has to be someone new or a truly great coach, and there isn't one out there, unless JVG wants the gig. Thibs has been basically been a clone of his, but I'd be willing to bet Van Gundy would look a lot different now than he did in his last HC gig. In the end it's likely going to be Bryant.

I don't think JVG works anymore in today's league, he hasn't been a headcoach for almost 20 years. Also it's a bit wild to say that none of them would be an upgrade over Thibs when 2 of them recently won a title. Taylor Jenkins was fired when his team was 44-29. To expect that some completely new head coach comes in and does a better job than any of those 4 I mentioned is extremely unlikely.

Who qualifies then in your eyes as a truly great head coach, if none of these 4 do? The other head coaches that won a title in the last 10 seasons are Mazzulla, Kerr, Vogel, Nurse & Lue. All of them are under contract besides Vogel and besides Kerr I wouldn't see any of them as a better candidate as Budenholzer or Malone.

When you included Monty on your list you made everyone else look bad. Monty is a bum.

I see him the lowest of all 4, but I definitely see him as an above average coach.

[tmorgan]

I don't think JVG works anymore in today's league, he hasn't been a headcoach for almost 20 years. Also it's a bit wild to say that none of them would be an upgrade over Thibs when 2 of them recently won a title. Taylor Jenkins was fired when his team was 44-29. To expect that some completely new head coach comes in and does a better job than any of those 4 I mentioned is extremely unlikely.

Who qualifies then in your eyes as a truly great head coach, if none of these 4 do? The other head coaches that won a title in the last 10 seasons are Mazzulla, Kerr, Vogel, Nurse & Lue. All of them are under contract besides Vogel and besides Kerr I wouldn't see any of them as a better candidate as Budenholzer or Malone.

When you included Monty on your list you made everyone else look bad. Monty is a bum.

I see him the lowest of all 4, but I definitely see him as an above average coach.

I…. I can’t even begin to list all of the horrible things he did in Detroit. His success in Phoenix was on the back of Chris Paul, so I guess if you think Brunson is at that level and doesn’t need a coach, maybe?

In any case, he wouldn’t make a single cent taking a coaching job, because the Pistons massively overpaid him and fired him after one year.

[WargamesX]

Obviously the front runner is Bryant. He has ties to the organization and is probably a top 5 assistant coach candidate to likely get a HC job this summer, but we don’t know if the Knicks FO want to replace Thibs with a rookie head coach. That type of risk taking is something the Knicks FO tends to avoid.

So taking that into consideration I have Jason Kidd is my dark horse candidate until we hear that the Mavs have denied him being interviewed by the Knicks.

[Mavrelous]

Kidd is a player freindly Thibs, brilliant defensive tactitian, limited offensively...

[___Rand___]

Calipari is worth mentioning. Apparently he's tight with some peeps in Knicks. And he coached Towns.

[HMFFL]

Calipari is worth mentioning. Apparently he's tight with some peeps in Knicks. And he coached Towns.

Why is Calipari worth mentioning?
He's a bad fit for any NBA team. Been there and he's tried it already.

NIL is probably ruining College for him so coming to the NBA makes sense.

Dolan is looking to proceed forward and not take steps back by hiring Calipari.