Knicks get Giannis

[mlloyd10]

Too much for Giannis.

There is no trade out there that is too much for Giannis - If Giannis is traded, it will be the biggest trade in the history of the NBA

[Mavrelous]

Too much for Giannis.

There is no trade out there that is too much for Giannis - If Giannis is traded, it will be the biggest trade in the history of the NBA

Sure sure...

[TGW]

Why would they trade Giannis for a bunch of players that you KNOW won't get you over the top? I highly doubt the Bucks are trying to become a watered down lesser version of this Knicks team.

[hugepatsfan]

I just don't get the structure of this return at all for MIL. They're basically recreating the Knicks last year except you trade KAT/Bridges/Hart for Portis/PatC which is obviously big downgrade. That's such a downgrade you probably drop them all the way into the play in compared to what NYK actually did.

I get the idea of building a first round exit type of core and then next year trying to be the team acquiring the star player via Dame's expiring + picks. This just doesn't feel like a good way to do that. Also, on the Knicks side, this isn't really the type of package teams usually send for a star because if you chip away at the supporting pieces left to this degree, it kind of defeats the purpose.

[Jose7]

Too much for Giannis.

There is no trade out there that is too much for Giannis - If Giannis is traded, it will be the biggest trade in the history of the NBA

Sure sure...

my thoughts exactly.

knicks wouldnt trade Brunson for Giannis. I can guarantee you that.

[jbk1234]

I like Giannis on the Knicks, but Knicks not trading Brunson or OG. What about Kat and others not named Brunson/OG ?? Kat + fillers?

Until we all here talk that Giannis wants out we should stop with the Giannis trade talks, because Bucks have stated they want to keep Giannis, but if he asks for a trade out, then we can start talking trades

They would 100% trade O.G. He's a great defender but he gave them practically nothing against the Pacers offensively and he's on a max deal.

[zimpy27]

Too much for Giannis.

I admire your guts

[jbk1234]

Why would they trade Giannis for a bunch of players that you KNOW won't get you over the top? I highly doubt the Bucks are trying to become a watered down lesser version of this Knicks team.

The reality is that they're not getting a player as good as Giannis for Giannis. Giannis himself has only been to the Finals once so the odds of the Bucks *getting over the top* as a result of a Giannis trade, that's a practical impossibility. If Giannis asks for a trade, it's damage mitigation mode time.

They can get back the best win-now package and play through the period they're conveying those picks, or they can get back the best rebuilding package they can get. There's no Jokic plus Luka trade that's going to materialize.

[mcfly1204]

I like Giannis on the Knicks, but Knicks not trading Brunson or OG. What about Kat and others not named Brunson/OG ?? Kat + fillers?

Until we all here talk that Giannis wants out we should stop with the Giannis trade talks, because Bucks have stated they want to keep Giannis, but if he asks for a trade out, then we can start talking trades

They would 100% trade O.G. He's a great defender but he gave them practically nothing against the Pacers offensively and he's on a max deal.

Yeah, I could actually see NY trading both Brunson and OG for Giannis.

[JonHeist]

Knicks get Giannis, Kuzma

Bucks get Brunson, OG, Mitch


McBride, Hart, Mikal, Gainnis, KAT -- Kolek, Kuzma, Hukporti

Brunson, GTJ, OG, Portis, Mitch -- KPJ, AJ, Connaughton, Prince, BroLo


Knicks do whatever it takes to get Giannis and this is the only way they can make up the value. They'd have a TaxMLE and vet mins to round out roster.

Bucks get a reset with 3 players each 3 years younger than Giannis. They don't need their picks back because they plan to stay competitive for the seasons to come.

horrendous and insulting offer

would infinitely prefer letting him walk for nothing in free agency if this is the only alternative

[spree8]

I like Giannis on the Knicks, but Knicks not trading Brunson or OG. What about Kat and others not named Brunson/OG ?? Kat + fillers?

Until we all here talk that Giannis wants out we should stop with the Giannis trade talks, because Bucks have stated they want to keep Giannis, but if he asks for a trade out, then we can start talking trades

They would 100% trade O.G. He's a great defender but he gave them practically nothing against the Pacers offensively and he's on a max deal.

Practically nothing? That’s news to me. I think he’s worth his money tho…

[jbk1234]

I like Giannis on the Knicks, but Knicks not trading Brunson or OG. What about Kat and others not named Brunson/OG ?? Kat + fillers?

Until we all here talk that Giannis wants out we should stop with the Giannis trade talks, because Bucks have stated they want to keep Giannis, but if he asks for a trade out, then we can start talking trades

They would 100% trade O.G. He's a great defender but he gave them practically nothing against the Pacers offensively and he's on a max deal.

Practically nothing? That’s news to me. I think he’s worth his money tho…

The 40 3-pointers, which is the only offensive stat, came over three series all of which went longer than 4 games. How many of those threes came against the Pacers?

[spree8]

They would 100% trade O.G. He's a great defender but he gave them practically nothing against the Pacers offensively and he's on a max deal.

Practically nothing? That’s news to me. I think he’s worth his money tho…

The 40 3-pointers, which is the only offensive stat, came over three series all of which went longer than 4 games. How many of those threes came against the Pacers?

Why are you singling out 3pointers in the Pacers series? I posted that to show he’s worth his contract. Secondly, he averaged 18 ppg in the series vs Indy.. that’s his season average and more than he averaged in both of the previous two series. So not really sure what you’re talking about.

[jbk1234]

Practically nothing? That’s news to me. I think he’s worth his money tho…

The 40 3-pointers, which is the only offensive stat, came over three series all of which went longer than 4 games. How many of those threes came against the Pacers?

Why are you singling out 3pointers in the Pacers series? I posted that to show he’s worth his contract. Secondly, he averaged 18 ppg in the series vs Indy.. that’s his season average and more than he averaged in both of the previous two series. So not really sure what you’re talking about.

Probably because the post you responded to was about the Pacers series. If you want to do the entire postseason, that's fine. He made 40 3-point shots over 18 games. That's a little over 2 a game. He shot a hair under 34% from 3-point range in the 2025 playoffs, which means he took almost 120 3-pointers.

[spree8]

The 40 3-pointers, which is the only offensive stat, came over three series all of which went longer than 4 games. How many of those threes came against the Pacers?

Why are you singling out 3pointers in the Pacers series? I posted that to show he’s worth his contract. Secondly, he averaged 18 ppg in the series vs Indy.. that’s his season average and more than he averaged in both of the previous two series. So not really sure what you’re talking about.

Probably because the post you responded to was about the Pacers series. If you want to do the entire postseason, that's fine. He made 40 3-point shots over 18 games. That's a little over 2 a game. He shot a hair under 34% from 3-point range in the 2025 playoffs, which means he took almost 120 3-pointers.

1: No, the post I responded to stated “he gave them practically nothing offensively against the Pacers”.. not “how many 3 pointers?”… there’s a lot more to offense than 3 pointers, hence the question “why are you singling out 3 pointers?”. Correct? That’s why I corrected you by saying he averaged the most ppg in the PO in that series.. which ties his season average.

2: You followed that up with “and he’s on a max contract”… to which I replied with the graphic about his historic contribution in the playoffs justifying that contract.

You just tried moving goalposts when you got corrected. Not sure why you even posted what you did to begin with without knowing or checking first.

[wegotthabeet]

Giannis to the Knicks involves adding New Orleans and Portland to regain full control of all their drafts picks moving forward, not taking a collection of lesser talents. It also involves dumping the extra year of Dame and adding a trove of picks and swaps on top.

Knicks get Giannis, Lillard

Pelicans get KAT

Blazers get OG

Bucks get Ayton, Mitch, McCollum, Olynyk, Dadiet
2025 NOP 1st (7th overall)
2025 POR 1st (11th overall)
2026 NOP 1st (swap returned + swap)
2026 IND 1st (top 4 protected)
2026 WAS 1st (top 10 protected)
2027 MIL 1st (swap returned)
2028 MIL 1st (swap returned)
2028 NYK 1st (swap)
2029 MIL 1st (pick returned)
2030 MIL 1st (swap returned)
2030 NYK 1st (swap)
2032 NYK 1st (swap)

Bucks get under the 1st apron in 2026, $92.6 million in expiring contracts, a recent 1st round pick prospect, all their picks + swaps returned, two lottery picks in the 2025 draft, two chances at a top 4 pick in the stacked 2026 draft, plus another one or two 1sts in 2026 and three future swaps. The team would be horrible, but could rebuild around 3 or more lottery picks in the next 12 months and completely clear their cap.

[letsgobulls23]

Maybe they can hang an ECF runner up banner. Do you think it’s a championship core yes or no? Do you think the Knicks will be returning to the ECF? If we replayed the Celtics series do you think the Knicks still win? Do you think Brunson, OG, and Robinson will be championship level players in 5 years?

If the answer to all of these is no then don’t propose this sort of hell on the Bucks. What I said is totally valid.

I proposed nothing. But when you are a top 4 team, your core isn't trash. The truth is teh Knicks core is stronger than the Bucks core and thats with Giannis.

Because the Bucks 2nd best player is hurt with an injury and an age that makes a successful return very unlikely, then you are looking at guys like Portis and Kuzma as your next best players which is tragic, and finally they have very few assets to improve.

So yeah, I have the Knicks being much closer to contending than the Bucks.

I’m sure your esteem for them is appreciated lol

Why can’t you answer the simple yes or no questions? I do not care what your opinion of the Bucks nor is that relevant to the quality of the Knicks core. It’s a bad core and a bad trade, simple as that.

Mind you that the Knicks won a total more of… *checks notes* 3 games. So if the Bucks finished 3 games better your entire opinion would be different?

Says who? You?

Haven't the Bucks lost in the 1st round... *checks notes* 3 years in a row? Feels like the "trash core" label could be better used on teams that didn't just lose in the ECF.

[jbk1234]

Why are you singling out 3pointers in the Pacers series? I posted that to show he’s worth his contract. Secondly, he averaged 18 ppg in the series vs Indy.. that’s his season average and more than he averaged in both of the previous two series. So not really sure what you’re talking about.

Probably because the post you responded to was about the Pacers series. If you want to do the entire postseason, that's fine. He made 40 3-point shots over 18 games. That's a little over 2 a game. He shot a hair under 34% from 3-point range in the 2025 playoffs, which means he took almost 120 3-pointers.

1: No, the post I responded to stated “he gave them practically nothing offensively against the Pacers”.. not “how many 3 pointers?”… there’s a lot more to offense than 3 pointers, hence the question “why are you singling out 3 pointers?”. Correct? That’s why I corrected you by saying he averaged the most ppg in the PO in that series.. which ties his season average.

2: You followed that up with “and he’s on a max contract”… to which I replied with the graphic about his historic contribution in the playoffs justifying that contract.

You just tried moving goalposts when you got corrected. Not sure why you even posted what you did to begin with without knowing or checking first.

You literally linked to a post where the only offensive stat listed was made 3 pointers.

[spree8]

Probably because the post you responded to was about the Pacers series. If you want to do the entire postseason, that's fine. He made 40 3-point shots over 18 games. That's a little over 2 a game. He shot a hair under 34% from 3-point range in the 2025 playoffs, which means he took almost 120 3-pointers.

1: No, the post I responded to stated “he gave them practically nothing offensively against the Pacers”.. not “how many 3 pointers?”… there’s a lot more to offense than 3 pointers, hence the question “why are you singling out 3 pointers?”. Correct? That’s why I corrected you by saying he averaged the most ppg in the PO in that series.. which ties his season average.

2: You followed that up with “and he’s on a max contract”… to which I replied with the graphic about his historic contribution in the playoffs justifying that contract.

You just tried moving goalposts when you got corrected. Not sure why you even posted what you did to begin with without knowing or checking first.

You literally linked to a post where the only offensive stat listed was made 3 pointers.

Did I not just clearly explain to you why? Good god man

[redslastlaugh]

Quotes came out today about Knicks players frustrated about Rick Brunson's role inside the Knicks, with some players calling Jalen's dad "the most powerful figure in the organization," ... considering this and considering Rick Brunson and Leon Rose relationship going back decades, and considering Brunson's overall popularity as the star of the Knicks...

I don't think a discussion on a deal like this has even 0.01% chance of getting started... yes, Giannis is better than Brunson... and no that doesn't matter at all in this scenario

Knicks get Giannis, Kuzma

Bucks get Brunson, OG, Mitch


McBride, Hart, Mikal, Gainnis, KAT -- Kolek, Kuzma, Hukporti

Brunson, GTJ, OG, Portis, Mitch -- KPJ, AJ, Connaughton, Prince, BroLo


Knicks do whatever it takes to get Giannis and this is the only way they can make up the value. They'd have a TaxMLE and vet mins to round out roster.

Bucks get a reset with 3 players each 3 years younger than Giannis. They don't need their picks back because they plan to stay competitive for the seasons to come.