Free Agent, Trade, Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 con't

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

That Midwest Division is going to be a Beast ..

[Fierce1]

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/mannix-spurs-team-watch-closest-185044903.html?guccounter=1

Mannix: Spurs the ‘team to watch the closest' for Jaylen Brown

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/mannix-spurs-team-watch-closest-185044903.html?guccounter=1

Mannix: Spurs the ‘team to watch the closest' for Jaylen Brown

The Spurs are going to have quite some team with Wemby, Giannis and Brown. Definitely Championship favorites...

[165bows]

I expect nothing to happen on a Brown to the Spurs front, but if so, I would want almost none of their players and pretty much all of their assets.

[tfribs45]

I expect nothing to happen on a Brown to the Spurs front, but if so, I would want almost none of their players and pretty much all of their assets.

C's are not going into a full blown rebuild, this Spurs rumor must be coming from TX lol. Who the heck wants to go back to the Ron Mercer, Dino Radja or AC EArl days!

[Hal14]

I expect nothing to happen on a Brown to the Spurs front, but if so, I would want almost none of their players and pretty much all of their assets.

C's are not going into a full blown rebuild, this Spurs rumor must be coming from TX lol. Who the heck wants to go back to the Ron Mercer, Dino Radja or AC EArl days!

Trading for top 3 picks is how we just won the 2024 NBA title (traded for top 3 picks and got Tatum and Brown).

I doubt it happens but I would trade Brown for the no. 2 pick.

-Get below the tax, clear tons of cap space
-Get a player who isn't as good now but has the potential to be better than JB in the long term..and we're not gonna be contenders anyways in the short term with Tatum's achilles injury..Harper could develop next season with Tatum on the shelf..learn the NBA game, learn our system. then by the time Tatum is back healthy, Harper is ready. Harper is not your typical top 2 pick in that he already has an NBA game..he's not raw, like at all. He's extremely skilled. For crying out loud, this was him when he was only a junior in HS:

Read on Twitter

-Harper is a better playmaker than Brown. His ceiling is a mix between SGA, Luka, Cade and Harden.
-Plus, JB continues to have injury issues..might need knee surgery this summer. By the time Tatum is back healthy, Brown will be like 30 yrs old and our title window would end once Tatum/Brown reach the end of their prime..if we flip JB for Harper, we'd basically have 2 title windows - one that goes until Tatum reaches end of his prime and one that goes until Harper reaches end of his prime. So we *could* be contenders for the next 15 years..

Again, I doubt it happens..but I'd do it.

Other question is, what if the Spurs won't move the 2nd pick for Brown..but they offer Fox or Castle instead? Do we still do it? Idk..maybe the package includes Fox or Castle + the 14th pick + barnes or Vassell? I might go for that..

[Larry_Russell]

Here we go.


To Detroit
Kristaps Porzingis and Sam Hauser(TPE) - add shooting and a center, should elevate them into a larger playoff threat.

To Mavericks
Jrue Holiday and Simon Fontecchio - Gets a PG to fill in for, and play with Kyrie and a bench SF.

To Jersey
Klay Thompson, Tillman, 2026 Boston 2nd and pick #37 from Detroit - Add 2 picks and some salary to help reach floor. Can trade Klay midseason for a pick, potentially.

To Boston
Isaiah Stewart, PJ Washington, Jalen Wilson and Naji Marshall. -
Add 3 nice young players and save 35 million in salary. Meaning we can use some of it to add another piece, use the picks all for depth while staying out of aprons. Deal leaves team about 13.8 million below 2nd apron and already with a solid enough top 9 to be a playoff threat WITHOUT Tatum. PJ is expiring but you have a year to figure out which of the 2 new forwards works better with the Jays...Naji or PJ.


White/Pritchard
Brown/Scheierman
Marshall/Walsh
Washington/Wilson
Stewart/Kornet/Queta

[Larry_Russell]

I expect nothing to happen on a Brown to the Spurs front, but if so, I would want almost none of their players and pretty much all of their assets.

C's are not going into a full blown rebuild, this Spurs rumor must be coming from TX lol. Who the heck wants to go back to the Ron Mercer, Dino Radja or AC EArl days!

Trading for top 3 picks is how we just won the 2024 NBA title (traded for top 3 picks and got Tatum and Brown).

I doubt it happens but I would trade Brown for the no. 2 pick.

-Get below the tax, clear tons of cap space
-Get a player who isn't as good now but has the potential to be better than JB in the long term..and we're not gonna be contenders anyways in the short term with Tatum's achilles injury..Harper could develop next season with Tatum on the shelf..learn the NBA game, learn our system. then by the time Tatum is back healthy, Harper is ready. Harper is not your typical top 2 pick in that he already has an NBA game..he's not raw, like at all. He's extremely skilled. For crying out loud, this was him when he was only a junior in HS:

Read on Twitter

-Harper is a better playmaker than Brown. His ceiling is a mix between SGA, Luka, Cade and Harden.
-Plus, JB continues to have injury issues..might need knee surgery this summer. By the time Tatum is back healthy, Brown will be like 30 yrs old and our title window would end once Tatum/Brown reach the end of their prime..if we flip JB for Harper, we'd basically have 2 title windows - one that goes until Tatum reaches end of his prime and one that goes until Harper reaches end of his prime. So we *could* be contenders for the next 15 years..

Again, I doubt it happens..but I'd do it.

Other question is, what if the Spurs won't move the 2nd pick for Brown..but they offer Fox or Castle instead? Do we still do it? Idk..maybe the package includes Fox or Castle + the 14th pick + barnes or Vassell? I might go for that..

I think there is as good a chance that Harper sets the league on fire right away as there is he doesnt.

And for Castle, 14th and Vassell, I trade Brown for that package as well. I love Castle.

Immediately look to trade Jrue and your PG-PF rotation next season is TIGHT

Castle - awesome rim attacker and setting the table for teammates
White - catch and shoot, 2ndary playmaker
Vassell - Elite shooter, 3 level scorer, awesome off ball movement
Tatum - Go to scorer

and at 14 you are looking at Coward, Bryant, Clifford and with Scheierman you have some real competition next season to see who comes out on top for being able to start on a team with Championship aspirations

[Larry_Russell]

I expect nothing to happen on a Brown to the Spurs front, but if so, I would want almost none of their players and pretty much all of their assets.

Castle and Vassell are good young players.

Castle has SGA potential and Vassell a Khris MIddleton type.

[Celts17Pride]

I expect nothing to happen on a Brown to the Spurs front, but if so, I would want almost none of their players and pretty much all of their assets.

C's are not going into a full blown rebuild, this Spurs rumor must be coming from TX lol. Who the heck wants to go back to the Ron Mercer, Dino Radja or AC EArl days!

If you watched the podcast of Drew Carter, Kevin O' Connor, Chris Forsberg and Chris Mannix you would know that the rumor is nothing. Carter asked Mannix about Jaylen Brown and Mannix said he doesn't see Brown being moved but if he was the only team he could see was the Spurs and the #2 pick. Next day, the rumor is Spurs may be a team to watch according to Chris Mannix. That's how these things work. Just Mannix being Mannix.

Sounds like the Spurs are getting close to a deal for Kevin Durant from the previous page but who knows?

[165bows]

I expect nothing to happen on a Brown to the Spurs front, but if so, I would want almost none of their players and pretty much all of their assets.

Castle and Vassell are good young players.

Castle has SGA potential and Vassell a Khris MIddleton type.

Castle has some intrigue Vassell seems like bad salary to me.

[GoCeltics123]

Devin Vassell is…fine. He’s not nearly as good as you guys think he is

[165bows]

I expect nothing to happen on a Brown to the Spurs front, but if so, I would want almost none of their players and pretty much all of their assets.

C's are not going into a full blown rebuild, this Spurs rumor must be coming from TX lol. Who the heck wants to go back to the Ron Mercer, Dino Radja or AC EArl days!

Trading for top 3 picks is how we just won the 2024 NBA title (traded for top 3 picks and got Tatum and Brown).

I doubt it happens but I would trade Brown for the no. 2 pick.

-Get below the tax, clear tons of cap space
-Get a player who isn't as good now but has the potential to be better than JB in the long term..and we're not gonna be contenders anyways in the short term with Tatum's achilles injury..Harper could develop next season with Tatum on the shelf..learn the NBA game, learn our system. then by the time Tatum is back healthy, Harper is ready. Harper is not your typical top 2 pick in that he already has an NBA game..he's not raw, like at all. He's extremely skilled. For crying out loud, this was him when he was only a junior in HS:

Read on Twitter

-Harper is a better playmaker than Brown. His ceiling is a mix between SGA, Luka, Cade and Harden.
-Plus, JB continues to have injury issues..might need knee surgery this summer. By the time Tatum is back healthy, Brown will be like 30 yrs old and our title window would end once Tatum/Brown reach the end of their prime..if we flip JB for Harper, we'd basically have 2 title windows - one that goes until Tatum reaches end of his prime and one that goes until Harper reaches end of his prime. So we *could* be contenders for the next 15 years..

Again, I doubt it happens..but I'd do it.

Other question is, what if the Spurs won't move the 2nd pick for Brown..but they offer Fox or Castle instead? Do we still do it? Idk..maybe the package includes Fox or Castle + the 14th pick + barnes or Vassell? I might go for that..

It’s how the Celtics built their title team but the odds of any #2 pick being better (or even that good for that matter) than Jaylen isn’t that high.

For Harper specifically he might get that good or he might not but his extremely mediocre college team and mediocre shooting production while things that could be overcome don’t lead me to be extremely optimistic.

[ThePigeon]

I expect nothing to happen on a Brown to the Spurs front, but if so, I would want almost none of their players and pretty much all of their assets.

Castle and Vassell are good young players.

Castle has SGA potential and Vassell a Khris MIddleton type.

Both will not get the finals MVP

I prefer Brown

[Hal14]

I expect nothing to happen on a Brown to the Spurs front, but if so, I would want almost none of their players and pretty much all of their assets.

Castle and Vassell are good young players.

Castle has SGA potential and Vassell a Khris MIddleton type.

Both will not get the finals MVP

I prefer Brown

Brown has peaked. He's not getting another finals MVP.

The moves we're making this summer are not just basketball decisions. It's not just about who's a better player. Finances are playing a big part as well.

Jaylen has a HUGE contract and it's highly debatable whether the on court value we're going to get from him over the next 4 years is worth the amount of $ we're paying him. And at 28 yrs old (29 in october), his trade value will likely only get lower as each year goes by.

Moving him now might be a good move..especially if we can get a young talent like Castle or Harper to extend our window well beyond when Tatum reaches the end of his prime..

[Celts17Pride]

Brown has peaked. He's not getting another finals MVP.

Says who?

[tfribs45]

C's are not going into a full blown rebuild, this Spurs rumor must be coming from TX lol. Who the heck wants to go back to the Ron Mercer, Dino Radja or AC EArl days!

Trading for top 3 picks is how we just won the 2024 NBA title (traded for top 3 picks and got Tatum and Brown).

I doubt it happens but I would trade Brown for the no. 2 pick.

-Get below the tax, clear tons of cap space
-Get a player who isn't as good now but has the potential to be better than JB in the long term..and we're not gonna be contenders anyways in the short term with Tatum's achilles injury..Harper could develop next season with Tatum on the shelf..learn the NBA game, learn our system. then by the time Tatum is back healthy, Harper is ready. Harper is not your typical top 2 pick in that he already has an NBA game..he's not raw, like at all. He's extremely skilled. For crying out loud, this was him when he was only a junior in HS:

Read on Twitter

-Harper is a better playmaker than Brown. His ceiling is a mix between SGA, Luka, Cade and Harden.
-Plus, JB continues to have injury issues..might need knee surgery this summer. By the time Tatum is back healthy, Brown will be like 30 yrs old and our title window would end once Tatum/Brown reach the end of their prime..if we flip JB for Harper, we'd basically have 2 title windows - one that goes until Tatum reaches end of his prime and one that goes until Harper reaches end of his prime. So we *could* be contenders for the next 15 years..

Again, I doubt it happens..but I'd do it.

Other question is, what if the Spurs won't move the 2nd pick for Brown..but they offer Fox or Castle instead? Do we still do it? Idk..maybe the package includes Fox or Castle + the 14th pick + barnes or Vassell? I might go for that..

It’s how the Celtics built their title team but the odds of any #2 pick being better (or even that good for that matter) than Jaylen isn’t that high.

For Harper specifically he might get that good or he might not but his extremely mediocre college team and mediocre shooting production while things that could be overcome don’t lead me to be extremely optimistic.

pretty sure we all know how the Celtics rebuilt and pulled off banner 18. Ainge had a lot to do with it, but I'm not looking to punt any seasons away. Would rather reload and wait for JT to get healthy in Mar. Wishful thinking maybe, but I'm not looking for a rebuild.

[TSmith0197]

I expect nothing to happen on a Brown to the Spurs front, but if so, I would want almost none of their players and pretty much all of their assets.

C's are not going into a full blown rebuild, this Spurs rumor must be coming from TX lol. Who the heck wants to go back to the Ron Mercer, Dino Radja or AC EArl days!

If you watched the podcast of Drew Carter, Kevin O' Connor, Chris Forsberg and Chris Mannix you would know that the rumor is nothing. Carter asked Mannix about Jaylen Brown and Mannix said he doesn't see Brown being moved but if he was the only team he could see was the Spurs and the #2 pick. Next day, the rumor is Spurs may be a team to watch according to Chris Mannix. That's how these things work. Just Mannix being Mannix.

Sounds like the Spurs are getting close to a deal for Kevin Durant from the previous page but who knows?

I do remember Pop being a huge fan of both JT and JB when Pop was the coach of Team USA. Pop had JB and JT in for Team USA camp. This Mannix rumor could be from that.

[Celts17Pride]

C's are not going into a full blown rebuild, this Spurs rumor must be coming from TX lol. Who the heck wants to go back to the Ron Mercer, Dino Radja or AC EArl days!

If you watched the podcast of Drew Carter, Kevin O' Connor, Chris Forsberg and Chris Mannix you would know that the rumor is nothing. Carter asked Mannix about Jaylen Brown and Mannix said he doesn't see Brown being moved but if he was the only team he could see was the Spurs and the #2 pick. Next day, the rumor is Spurs may be a team to watch according to Chris Mannix. That's how these things work. Just Mannix being Mannix.

Sounds like the Spurs are getting close to a deal for Kevin Durant from the previous page but who knows?

I do remember Pop being a huge fan of both JT and JB when Pop was the coach of Team USA. Pop had JB and JT in for Team USA camp. This Mannix rumor could be from that.

I watched the podcast, 100% Mannix speculation.

[TSmith0197]

If you watched the podcast of Drew Carter, Kevin O' Connor, Chris Forsberg and Chris Mannix you would know that the rumor is nothing. Carter asked Mannix about Jaylen Brown and Mannix said he doesn't see Brown being moved but if he was the only team he could see was the Spurs and the #2 pick. Next day, the rumor is Spurs may be a team to watch according to Chris Mannix. That's how these things work. Just Mannix being Mannix.

Sounds like the Spurs are getting close to a deal for Kevin Durant from the previous page but who knows?

I do remember Pop being a huge fan of both JT and JB when Pop was the coach of Team USA. Pop had JB and JT in for Team USA camp. This Mannix rumor could be from that.

I watched the podcast, 100% Mannix speculation.

I watched it too and listening to it again RIGHT now. I know it’s speculation, they say right now the entire NBA has no idea what Brad is thinking so this is all speculation. I’m just saying I remember Pop being a fan of JB.