Free Agent, Trade, Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 con't

[Larry_Russell]

I expect nothing to happen on a Brown to the Spurs front, but if so, I would want almost none of their players and pretty much all of their assets.

Castle and Vassell are good young players.

Castle has SGA potential and Vassell a Khris MIddleton type.

Castle has some intrigue Vassell seems like bad salary to me.

With the cap going up, 27 mill isnt that bad anymore. He is litterally half of Jaylen Browns salary, but is more than half the player Brown is.
MLE is 15 million...less than twice the MLE seems reasonable.

[Curmudgeon]

I have no interest in any of the players that SA might send back in a Brown deal except Harrison Barnes, since his deal is expiring. I could live with Barnes and Castle, I suppose. Along with the #2 pick of course.

And Barnes is still a decent player. I remember when they called him the Black falcon and he gave Pierce fits when Barnes was a rookie.

[Larry_Russell]

I expect nothing to happen on a Brown to the Spurs front, but if so, I would want almost none of their players and pretty much all of their assets.

Castle and Vassell are good young players.

Castle has SGA potential and Vassell a Khris MIddleton type.

Both will not get the finals MVP

I prefer Brown

Brown has been on a decline over last 2 seasons....and honestly should NOT have gotten the one he did.

Tatum should have and was robbed.


Brown
20.8ppg, 5.4rpg, 5apg


Tatum
22.2ppg, 7.8rpg, 7.2apg

It was browns perceived defense on Luka (while ignoring Luka was obviously gassed) that gave brown the FMVP.

[Curmudgeon]

Hats off to Brown for winning the FMVP. But that was 2 years ago. The world is different now.

[Larry_Russell]

Brown has peaked. He's not getting another finals MVP.

Says who?

statistics

Usage down, turnovers up.
shooting worse (attacking rim less and shooting more for 3-10 feet which looks like he is lacking the ability to get to the rim...meaning a decline)

[Fierce1]

Hats off to Brown for winning the FMVP. But that was 2 years ago. The world is different now.

2024 FMVP.

It's 2025 today.

Cs were not in the Finals 2 years ago.

[Hal14]

If the Spurs are looking for a star with a lower asking price than Antetokounmpo, Mannix believes that Brown could be a feasible option for San Antonio.

“I think if you’re Boston, you’re not going to ask for a Stephon Castle. You’re not going to get a Stephon Castle in a potential Jaylen Brown deal. You would get the No. 2 pick back in return. You would get the Devin Vassells, the Keldon Johnsons, future first-round capital. That’s something I’d watch if and when the Giannis Antetokounmpo stuff shakes itself out over the next few weeks.”

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/06/jaylen-brown-trade-rumors-celtics-star-linked-to-new-team-by-nba-insider.html

Yes, do it.

I would absolutely do No. 2 pick (Harper) + Vassell + Barnes(or Keldon Johnson) + picks for JB.

Absolutely.

Do it.

[Celts17Pride]

Brown has peaked. He's not getting another finals MVP.

Says who?

statistics

Usage down, turnovers up.
shooting worse (attacking rim less and shooting more for 3-10 feet which looks like he is lacking the ability to get to the rim...meaning a decline)

Tatum lead the Celtics in turnovers and turnovers per game and Tatum had the most 5+ turnover games last season. Just keeping it real.

[Celts17Pride]

If the Spurs are looking for a star with a lower asking price than Antetokounmpo, Mannix believes that Brown could be a feasible option for San Antonio.

“I think if you’re Boston, you’re not going to ask for a Stephon Castle. You’re not going to get a Stephon Castle in a potential Jaylen Brown deal. You would get the No. 2 pick back in return. You would get the Devin Vassells, the Keldon Johnsons, future first-round capital. That’s something I’d watch if and when the Giannis Antetokounmpo stuff shakes itself out over the next few weeks.”

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/06/jaylen-brown-trade-rumors-celtics-star-linked-to-new-team-by-nba-insider.html

Yes, do it.

I would absolutely do No. 2 pick (Harper + Vassell + Barnes(or Keldon Johnson) + picks for JB.

Absolutely.

Do it.

So would Mannix. Problem is the Spurs won't do it. Rumor is the Spurs/Suns have a framework for a Durant deal with only the 14th pick being moved. Check back a few pages. Spurs think Durant and #2 pick > Brown. I agree.

[tfribs45]

Brown has peaked. He's not getting another finals MVP.

Says who?

statistics

Usage down, turnovers up.
shooting worse (attacking rim less and shooting more for 3-10 feet which looks like he is lacking the ability to get to the rim...meaning a decline)

you guys are blinded by the hate, dude played with a flipping torn meniscus man. Let that sink in....anyone in their right mind could see that JB didn't have his reg burst or lift. Lets be real here in the land of make believe haha

[Larry_Russell]

I have no interest in any of the players that SA might send back in a Brown deal except Harrison Barnes, since his deal is expiring. I could live with Barnes and Castle, I suppose. Along with the #2 pick of course.

And Barnes is still a decent player. I remember when they called him the Black falcon and he gave Pierce fits when Barnes was a rookie.

I have Vassell as a bit of a binkie.

But yeah, I do that trade too.

Barnes fills a role that is greatly needed. Spacing PF who can defend.

[jeremym480]

Jrue and pick #32 and a future 2nd from NOP to DAL
Hauser and Gafford to NOP
PJ Washington, Naji Marshall, and Kelly Olynyk to BOS

then bring back either Horford or Kornet

PP, White, Brown, Washington, KP
JD, Scheierman, Naji, Kelly O, Horford/Kornet
Pick #28, Walsh, Queta

[165bows]

I have no interest in any of the players that SA might send back in a Brown deal except Harrison Barnes, since his deal is expiring. I could live with Barnes and Castle, I suppose. Along with the #2 pick of course.

And Barnes is still a decent player. I remember when they called him the Black falcon and he gave Pierce fits when Barnes was a rookie.

I have Vassell as a bit of a binkie.

But yeah, I do that trade too.

Barnes fills a role that is greatly needed. Spacing PF who can defend.

Vassell just seems like all the downsides of Brown without the upsides.

[Fierce1]

JB is one lucky dude.

Just checked and found out JB only made All-NBA once and it resulted in a supermax.

[Celts17Pride]

Brown has been on a decline over last 2 seasons....and honestly should NOT have gotten the one he did.

Tatum should have and was robbed.


Brown
20.8ppg, 5.4rpg, 5apg


Tatum
22.2ppg, 7.8rpg, 7.2apg

It was browns perceived defense on Luka (while ignoring Luka was obviously gassed) that gave brown the FMVP.

Here comes the revisionist history. I knew it would appear sometime

[Hal14]

If the Spurs are looking for a star with a lower asking price than Antetokounmpo, Mannix believes that Brown could be a feasible option for San Antonio.

“I think if you’re Boston, you’re not going to ask for a Stephon Castle. You’re not going to get a Stephon Castle in a potential Jaylen Brown deal. You would get the No. 2 pick back in return. You would get the Devin Vassells, the Keldon Johnsons, future first-round capital. That’s something I’d watch if and when the Giannis Antetokounmpo stuff shakes itself out over the next few weeks.”

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/06/jaylen-brown-trade-rumors-celtics-star-linked-to-new-team-by-nba-insider.html

Yes, do it.

I would absolutely do No. 2 pick (Harper + Vassell + Barnes(or Keldon Johnson) + picks for JB.

Absolutely.

Do it.

So would Mannix. Problem is the Spurs won't do it. Rumor is the Spurs/Suns have a framework for a Durant deal with only the 14th pick being moved. Check back a few pages. Spurs think Durant and #2 pick > Brown. I agree.

Keyword there is rumor. It's all just rumors right now. We don't know what the Spurs really think and we won't know until they make a move.

And who knows, maybe they do both..14 pick for KD and 2nd pick for JB.

[Fierce1]

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/06/jaylen-brown-trade-rumors-celtics-star-linked-to-new-team-by-nba-insider.html

Yes, do it.

I would absolutely do No. 2 pick (Harper + Vassell + Barnes(or Keldon Johnson) + picks for JB.

Absolutely.

Do it.

So would Mannix. Problem is the Spurs won't do it. Rumor is the Spurs/Suns have a framework for a Durant deal with only the 14th pick being moved. Check back a few pages. Spurs think Durant and #2 pick > Brown. I agree.

Keyword there is rumor. It's all just rumors right now. We don't know what the Spurs really think and we won't know until they make a move.

And who knows, maybe they do both..14 pick for KD and 2nd pick for JB.

That is plausible.

Spurs move Vassell, Keldon, and Barnes, that will allow them to take back JB and KD.

[Celts17Pride]

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/06/jaylen-brown-trade-rumors-celtics-star-linked-to-new-team-by-nba-insider.html

Yes, do it.

I would absolutely do No. 2 pick (Harper + Vassell + Barnes(or Keldon Johnson) + picks for JB.

Absolutely.

Do it.

So would Mannix. Problem is the Spurs won't do it. Rumor is the Spurs/Suns have a framework for a Durant deal with only the 14th pick being moved. Check back a few pages. Spurs think Durant and #2 pick > Brown. I agree.

Keyword there is rumor. It's all just rumors right now. We don't know what the Spurs really think and we won't know until they make a move.

And who knows, maybe they do both..14 pick for KD and 2nd pick for JB.

Spurs are not taking $110 million of salary for two players already having Fox, Wemby and Castle People need to go outside and get some fresh air. The Spurs and Brown is not even a rumor, it's 100% speculation from Mannix. He was answering a question from Drew Carter to give his opinion.

[Fierce1]

A Spurs team with Wemby, KD, Fox, and JB...

[robbie84]

Would Phoenix (if other options fail) take a deal based around Porzingis +Jrue for KD?