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Post#1181 » by HopelessKnick » Thu Jun 5, 2025 11:07 am

https://dknetwork.draftkings.com/2025/06/04/nba-trade-rumors-knicks-to-explore-market-for-karl-anthony-towns/

Discussing some KAT trade destinations. Been thinking about San Antonio myself. They have the salaries and personnel to make it work---depth and two-way players.

However if we were to trade KAT there would have to be a plan on how to bring in a guy that can legitimately play 25minutes at Center.

KAT for Vassell + Barnes + 14th pick......

JB
Bridges
OG
Barnes
Mitch

with Vassell, Hart, Deuce off the bench....we would need to use the 14th pick for another bench big man upgrade but it could probably be done....I still think overall a Durant trade does not look unlikely...Phoenix wants to trade him...there aren't too many teams in position to offer him a legit title run + Phoenix has that backup Center that we would need to get back in a KAT trade (Richards).

JB-Bridges-OG-Durant-Mitch is a line-up that IMO would improve us defensively and offensively. And our bench with Deuce, Hart, Richards + free agency would already look pretty promising.
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Post#1182 » by HopelessKnick » Thu Jun 5, 2025 11:10 am

R-DAWG wrote:I don’t think there is enough talk here on the most likely outcome this summer - using a tax MLE and replacing 2 vet minimum slots.

The hope is that we add a secondary ball handler and minutes eating big (although im not sure if there is an option better than Precious Achiuwa here).

Ball handler options - Malcom Brogdon, Dennis Schroeder, Spencer Dinwiddie, Tyus Jones, D’Angello Russell

Bigs - Al Horford, Clint Capella, Tray Lyles

If they go BPA, I can see looking into Malik Beasley, Gary Trent Jr, Jake LaRavia

Over the past few seasons, Milwaukee has been able to get a fifth starter on the minimum.


Al Horford would be a good addition but can Clint Capela be had for the tax MLE? I think he will get a 3/40mill. offer somewhere (a la Jonas Valanciunas). Keep in mind he is just 31 so I doubt he'd be willing to take big paycuts for a title run...he will likely try to maximize this final lucrative contract.

I do think there is the undermentioned possibility of Mitch getting traded for a more dependable/durable player.
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Post#1183 » by stuporman » Thu Jun 5, 2025 11:18 am

After last off season I don't know what is possible or not anymore, Rose went full Besart so now it seems like nothing is impossible.
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Post#1184 » by ctorres » Thu Jun 5, 2025 11:53 am

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ctorres wrote:trading for Durant is pretty complicated to do if it doesn't involve KAT

I've been using https://www.spotrac.com/nba/trade-machine

I pulled off a few 3-team trades involving Memphis

The first one has us giving up as many as 6 players just to acquire Durant

Knicks acquire:
- Kevin Durant

Suns acquire:
- Mikal Bridges
- Josh Hart
- Miles McBride
- Pacome Dadiet
- Jay Huff

Grizzlies acquire:
- Tyler Kolek
- Ariel Hukporti

Knicks '26 Lineup
G: Jalen Brunson
F: OG Anunoby
F: Kevin Durant
F/C: Karl-Anthony Towns
C: Mitchell Robinson



This trade with PHX and MEM has us giving up OG and Mitch instead

Knicks acquire:
- Kevin Durant

Suns acquire:
- OG Anunoby
- Mitchell Robinson
- Jaylen Wells

Grizzlies acquire:
- Tyler Kolek
- Ariel Hukporti

Knicks '26 Lineup
G: Jalen Brunson
G: Josh Hart
F: Mikal Bridges
F: Kevin Durant
C: Karl-Anthony Towns
6th man: Miles McBride



If it's KAT for Durant with Memphis involved, it's a little easier.

Knicks acquire:
- Kevin Durant
- Jay Huff

Suns acquire:
- Karl-Anthony Towns
- pick or draft rights from Memphis

Grizzlies acquire:
- Tyler Kolek
- Ariel Hukporti

Knicks '26 Lineup
G: Jalen Brunson
G: Mikal Bridges
F: OG Anunoby
F: Kevin Durant
C: Mitchell Robinson
6th man: Josh Hart
G/F: Miles McBride
C: Jay Huff


The only way to acquire Durant without Towns would be using Anunoby’s salary.

I think the math works for an Anunoby + Hart + Tucker for Durant and Nick Richards trade.

But I’m not sure if it’s worth the depth issues for Durant at this point.


Because Phoenix is in the 2nd apron, they can only trade Durant by himself. They're not allowed to aggregate contracts (such as adding Nick Richards) according to Spotrac
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Post#1185 » by Signature NYK » Thu Jun 5, 2025 12:09 pm

3 Team Trade:

Knicks In:
KD + Mark Williams

Hornets in:
Miles McBride + 2026 Was 1st

Suns in:
KAT + Dadiet

Sign Tyus Jones to MLE
Resign precious for the low

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KD/Precious
OG/Hart/Mcullar Jr.
Mikal/Hart
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Post#1186 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jun 5, 2025 12:20 pm

stuporman wrote:After last off season I don't know what is possible or not anymore, Rose went full Besart so now it seems like nothing is impossible.


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Post#1187 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Jun 5, 2025 12:31 pm

Signature NYK wrote:3 Team Trade:

Knicks In:
KD + Mark Williams

Hornets in:
Miles McBride + 2026 Was 1st

Suns in:
KAT + Dadiet

Sign Tyus Jones to MLE
Resign precious for the low

Mark Williams/Mitch/Huk
KD/Precious
OG/Hart/Mcullar Jr.
Mikal/Hart
Brunson/Tyus/Kolek

That’s not a better team. :nonono:
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Post#1188 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jun 5, 2025 12:35 pm

msanchez2725 wrote:There is no chance that KAT has anywhere near the value to headline a Giannis trade. And I really like KAT, but let’s be realistic. KAT and all the picks we traded for Mikal? That might have worked, but we went all in a year too soon. Fortify the bench and obviously listen in on everything.



Its possible you would need to trade Mikal for picks and then send those picks and KAT out to get Giannis. But I also believe that would net a semi decent role player replacment for Bridges in return. If Milwaukee is looking for a top under 30 player back as a top priority, KAT is a top 15-20 type guy, they aren't going to get much better than that.
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Post#1189 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jun 5, 2025 12:38 pm

ctorres wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
ctorres wrote:trading for Durant is pretty complicated to do if it doesn't involve KAT

I've been using https://www.spotrac.com/nba/trade-machine

I pulled off a few 3-team trades involving Memphis

The first one has us giving up as many as 6 players just to acquire Durant



This trade with PHX and MEM has us giving up OG and Mitch instead



If it's KAT for Durant with Memphis involved, it's a little easier.



The only way to acquire Durant without Towns would be using Anunoby’s salary.

I think the math works for an Anunoby + Hart + Tucker for Durant and Nick Richards trade.

But I’m not sure if it’s worth the depth issues for Durant at this point.


Because Phoenix is in the 2nd apron, they can only trade Durant by himself. They're not allowed to aggregate contracts (such as adding Nick Richards) according to Spotrac


Personally Im not trading 3 more control years of KAT for an older KD. However I'd probably do Bridges, Mitch and Hart which adds up right about to his salary.
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Post#1190 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jun 5, 2025 12:42 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Brunson
McBride
OG
JJJ
Giannis


Wouldn't that be something. Personally 1 of the 2 of Giannis or JJJ makes this roster construction close to ideal. I do wonder how the Knicks are thinking in terms of who they prefer to deal if all things were equal. Is it Bridges or KAT now that we likely will bring in a new coach?
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Post#1191 » by 8516knicks » Thu Jun 5, 2025 12:44 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
stuporman wrote:After last off season I don't know what is possible or not anymore, Rose went full Besart so now it seems like nothing is impossible.


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Post#1192 » by ctorres » Thu Jun 5, 2025 1:37 pm

KnixinSix wrote:Personally Im not trading 3 more control years of KAT for an older KD. However I'd probably do Bridges, Mitch and Hart which adds up right about to his salary.


Bridges, Mitch, and Hart is $2.6 million over Durant's salary, so the trade doesn't work for Phoenix

Both Phoenix and New York have to receive less salary than what they send out, which is why a 3rd team is needed to make a trade happen.
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Post#1193 » by stuporman » Thu Jun 5, 2025 2:21 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
stuporman wrote:After last off season I don't know what is possible or not anymore, Rose went full Besart so now it seems like nothing is impossible.


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Post#1194 » by Jeffrey » Thu Jun 5, 2025 2:36 pm

Signature NYK wrote:3 Team Trade:

Knicks In:
KD + Mark Williams

Hornets in:
Miles McBride + 2026 Was 1st

Suns in:
KAT + Dadiet

Sign Tyus Jones to MLE
Resign precious for the low

Mark Williams/Mitch/Huk
KD/Precious
OG/Hart/Mcullar Jr.
Mikal/Hart
Brunson/Tyus/Kolek


I like Mark Williams but with him and Mitch... Dolan will need to be a hospital in MSG at that point.
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Post#1195 » by spree8 » Thu Jun 5, 2025 3:00 pm

ctorres wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:Personally Im not trading 3 more control years of KAT for an older KD. However I'd probably do Bridges, Mitch and Hart which adds up right about to his salary.


Bridges, Mitch, and Hart is $2.6 million over Durant's salary, so the trade doesn't work for Phoenix

Both Phoenix and New York have to receive less salary than what they send out, which is why a 3rd team is needed to make a trade happen.



Since PHX can’t aggregate, 2 deals:

#1

NYK: Durant, Milton, Goodwin, 2031 LAL 1st, 2030 LAL 1st Swap
LAL: Mitch (exact trade they made for MWilliams)
PHX: Mikal, Hart, Knecht, Dadiet


#2

NYK: Dunn
PHX: Goodwin

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Post#1196 » by kNicksGmen » Thu Jun 5, 2025 3:33 pm

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Post#1197 » by Polk377 » Thu Jun 5, 2025 3:34 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:https://dknetwork.draftkings.com/2025/06/04/nba-trade-rumors-knicks-to-explore-market-for-karl-anthony-towns/

Discussing some KAT trade destinations. Been thinking about San Antonio myself. They have the salaries and personnel to make it work---depth and two-way players.

However if we were to trade KAT there would have to be a plan on how to bring in a guy that can legitimately play 25minutes at Center.

KAT for Vassell + Barnes + 14th pick......

JB
Bridges
OG
Barnes
Mitch

with Vassell, Hart, Deuce off the bench....we would need to use the 14th pick for another bench big man upgrade but it could probably be done....I still think overall a Durant trade does not look unlikely...Phoenix wants to trade him...there aren't too many teams in position to offer him a legit title run + Phoenix has that backup Center that we would need to get back in a KAT trade (Richards).

JB-Bridges-OG-Durant-Mitch is a line-up that IMO would improve us defensively and offensively. And our bench with Deuce, Hart, Richards + free agency would already look pretty promising.

This is beyond a horrendous scenario. You sell KAT on 5 cents to the dollar for a player you want to use as a 6th man? :lol:
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Post#1198 » by RHODEY » Thu Jun 5, 2025 3:51 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
ctorres wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
The only way to acquire Durant without Towns would be using Anunoby’s salary.

I think the math works for an Anunoby + Hart + Tucker for Durant and Nick Richards trade.

But I’m not sure if it’s worth the depth issues for Durant at this point.


Because Phoenix is in the 2nd apron, they can only trade Durant by himself. They're not allowed to aggregate contracts (such as adding Nick Richards) according to Spotrac


Personally Im not trading 3 more control years of KAT for an older KD. However I'd probably do Bridges, Mitch and Hart which adds up right about to his salary.


We'd lose too much rebounding (Mitch and Hart), Defense (Mitch/Bridges),Playmaking (Hart) and durability (Bridges)... Team gets older and thinner,I dont think that makes sense either. Only way Durant makes sense to me is on a buyout contract.
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Post#1199 » by knicks94 » Thu Jun 5, 2025 4:06 pm

Let's trade KAT for KD, Brunson for CP3 and M-Rob for Deandre Jordan.
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Post#1200 » by BKlutch » Thu Jun 5, 2025 4:57 pm

From Wiretap: Suns To Ramp Up Kevin Durant Trade Talks Ahead Of Draft

So Durant to MIL, Giannis to us, Hart + salary fillers to the Suns. I'm just a little concerned that Phoenix won't sign off on this without a little physical coercion.
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