2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8

[Dalek]

I believe RJ is the Raps equivalent of Myles Turner - in the yearly trade scenarios but will be on the team for ten years.

Why can't the Raps be the one offering other players to move up?

[HumbleRen]

I don’t believe that for a second. And who are you for me to believe. Opinions are like ****. We all have one. Why should we care about yours?

We literally just tried to trade him at the trade deadline and a team like the poverty Pelicans said nah I’m good on RJ.

Knicks immediately went from a play in team to winning at a 80% rate by simply replacing him with OG in the starting line up.





It turns out that it’s probably a wise idea to upgrade on a guy that’s on both these lists and is a weak defender too.

Masai will trade him as soon as he can find a team that wants him.

It’s fine to trade RJ. To give up a top ten pick to drop 10 spots in a fairly deep draft for a 29 year old that plays 55 games a year and is not remotely close to a star player is insane to me
Cam Johnson does t move the needle He is a final touch on a OKC or Indiana, Wolves, Dallas type team
No way I giving up RJ, durable has made improvements, 4 years younger and his contract isn’t issue until next year or year after and has a larger contract to support larger trades along with a top ten pick for cam freakn Johnson and ten spots lower Unless BRK tosses in more picks next year also makes no sense to me
Their remaining picks in 2025 now are just filler we can’t have another five rookies on the roster

I said I’m not trading the 9th either. I’m just saying in a straight up Cam for RJ scenario. It’s clearly a no brainer lol.

[HumbleRen]

I believe RJ is the Raps equivalent of Myles Turner - in the yearly trade scenarios but will be on the team for ten years.

Why can't the Raps be the one offering other players to move up?

Cause most of our guys have no value. Nobody would trade down for an RJ of the worlds.

[niQ]

That’s only because RJ would be on a rookie deal lol.

RJ is just not a winning player. I get that he’s Canadian and all that stuff but this is the same trap a lot of Demar fans fell for.

He will always be a guy that every single team wants to upgrade on when they go from a middling team to a team that’s serious about winning.

Knicks won’t be first team, we won’t be the last team, this will be his legacy for every team that he lands on.

There’s not a single playoff team that would take RJ over Johnson.

I don’t believe that for a second. And who are you for me to believe. Opinions are like ****. We all have one. Why should we care about yours?

We literally just tried to trade him at the trade deadline and a team like the poverty Pelicans said nah I’m good on RJ.

I always thought reuniting Zion with RJ would've got Pels on Zion's good side. But what do I know.

[Dalek]

We scouted the heck out of this guy. How different is he that diff from Fears? His jump passes do scare me though but pound for pound and speed-wise he is similar. Plus the improvement in shooting showed.

Nolan Traoré’s anthro measurements + athletic testing results from the 2025 NBA Draft Combine activities in Treviso:

6’3" barefoot, 175 lbs, 6’8” wingspan, 8’5 ½" reach, 7 ¾" x 9 ¼" hands

Sprint: 3.26
Pro Lane: 10.75
Shuttle: 2.85
No-Step Vert: 28”
Max Vert: 34”

Quoting Wasserman stats: Shot 40% 3PT from mid-January to mid-May. Will have highest AST % among first-round guards. Turned 19 last week.

Fears by comparison:

6’2 ½ barefoot, 179.6 lbs with a 6’5 ¼" wingspan and 8’2 ½" standing reach

Sprint: 3.05
Pro Lane: 10.95
Shuttle: 3.09
No-Step Vert: 32.5”
Max Vert: 36.5”

[mihaic]

I don’t believe that for a second. And who are you for me to believe. Opinions are like ****. We all have one. Why should we care about yours?

We literally just tried to trade him at the trade deadline and a team like the poverty Pelicans said nah I’m good on RJ.

I always thought reuniting Zion with RJ would've got Pels on Zion's good side. But what do I know.

Has nothing to do with the value of the player. RJ has salary but Bruce Brown was an expiring. They needed to shed salary.

So yeah those are just your opinions.

[Indeed]

I expect he'll be so bad as a rookie that he doesn't see the floor much at all unless it is a blowout or the season has gone really wrong.

Maluach was a 5-star recruit and the #4 prospect entering college. He played professionally against grown men at 16 & 17 years old, and didn’t look out of on the court against NBA players during Olympic qualifiers.

He was the starting centre for one of the best NCAA teams in the country as an 18 year-old. He’s a projected Top 10 pick.

I get not believing in his ceiling or wanting the Raps to draft him. But writing him off to the point of projecting that him getting minutes means your teams season has “gone horribly wrong” is super weird to me. I don’t see any other prospect, especially one with his pedigree, get talked about like this.

Edey says hi. The experts here told me last year that Edey will be unplayable in NBA, and they wouldn't even draft him with the 2nd round pick.

I don't claim I know how Maluach will turn out, he could be a star, or bust, but some people here are soooo opinionated right?

Yet, Edey is better than Maluach in every category in Combine measurement, and his lane agility being 11.19 vs Maluach being 12.05 are massive.
The opinion that is based on result and stats will be more accurate than just "look likes".

[Rapsfan07]

That’s only because RJ would be on a rookie deal lol.

RJ is just not a winning player. I get that he’s Canadian and all that stuff but this is the same trap a lot of Demar fans fell for.

He will always be a guy that every single team wants to upgrade on when they go from a middling team to a team that’s serious about winning.

Knicks won’t be first team, we won’t be the last team, this will be his legacy for every team that he lands on.

There’s not a single playoff team that would take RJ over Johnson.

I don’t believe that for a second. And who are you for me to believe. Opinions are like ****. We all have one. Why should we care about yours?

We literally just tried to trade him at the trade deadline and a team like the poverty Pelicans said nah I’m good on RJ.

Knicks immediately went from a play in team to winning at a 80% rate by simply replacing him with OG in the starting line up.





It turns out that it’s probably a wise idea to upgrade on a guy that’s on both these lists and is a weak defender too.

Masai will trade him as soon as he can find a team that wants him.

Upgrade being the key word here.

I don't have a problem with us moving on from Barrett in theory but it would need to be for a clear upgrade. Johnson + #19 for Barrett + #9 is absolutely not an upgrade.

Looking around the league, I can't see a team that would give what I would consider reasonable enough value to consider moving Barrett. I believe that if he is going to moved, it will be in a deal for a bigger piece.

[mihaic]

Maluach was a 5-star recruit and the #4 prospect entering college. He played professionally against grown men at 16 & 17 years old, and didn’t look out of on the court against NBA players during Olympic qualifiers.

He was the starting centre for one of the best NCAA teams in the country as an 18 year-old. He’s a projected Top 10 pick.

I get not believing in his ceiling or wanting the Raps to draft him. But writing him off to the point of projecting that him getting minutes means your teams season has “gone horribly wrong” is super weird to me. I don’t see any other prospect, especially one with his pedigree, get talked about like this.

Edey says hi. The experts here told me last year that Edey will be unplayable in NBA, and they wouldn't even draft him with the 2nd round pick.

I don't claim I know how Maluach will turn out, he could be a star, or bust, but some people here are soooo opinionated right?

Yet, Edey is better than Maluach in every category in Combine measurement, and his lane agility being 11.19 vs Maluach being 12.05 are massive.
The opinion that is based on result and stats will be more accurate than just "look likes".

I was not comparing the two at all. Read the full chain of quotes and you'll see. Thanks

[ForeverTFC]

I don’t believe that for a second. And who are you for me to believe. Opinions are like ****. We all have one. Why should we care about yours?

We literally just tried to trade him at the trade deadline and a team like the poverty Pelicans said nah I’m good on RJ.

Knicks immediately went from a play in team to winning at a 80% rate by simply replacing him with OG in the starting line up.





It turns out that it’s probably a wise idea to upgrade on a guy that’s on both these lists and is a weak defender too.

Masai will trade him as soon as he can find a team that wants him.

Upgrade being the key word here.

I don't have a problem with us moving on from Barrett in theory but it would need to be for a clear upgrade. Johnson + #19 for Barrett + #9 is absolutely not an upgrade.

Looking around the league, I can't see a team that would give what I would consider reasonable enough value to consider moving Barrett. I believe that if he is going to moved, it will be in a deal for a bigger piece.

The upgrade doesn't have to be linear. There are more teams that can use an expiring Johnson vs an expiring Barrett in a year's time. Even RJ's biggest supporters will agree that he's hard to fit in a lot of places. By doing the swap, we maintain the salary/term and increase the potential destinations/trade partners.

The Nets also have a lot of 2027 picks that can be included to round things out. If the FO doesn't like the back half of the lottery, why not move off of RJ and bring in a better trade asset in Johnson, pick a player later in the draft at a lower guaranteed salary for further cap flexibility, and add pick capital in the future?

[mihaic]

That’s only because RJ would be on a rookie deal lol.

RJ is just not a winning player. I get that he’s Canadian and all that stuff but this is the same trap a lot of Demar fans fell for.

He will always be a guy that every single team wants to upgrade on when they go from a middling team to a team that’s serious about winning.

Knicks won’t be first team, we won’t be the last team, this will be his legacy for every team that he lands on.

There’s not a single playoff team that would take RJ over Johnson.

I don’t believe that for a second. And who are you for me to believe. Opinions are like ****. We all have one. Why should we care about yours?

We literally just tried to trade him at the trade deadline and a team like the poverty Pelicans said nah I’m good on RJ.

Knicks immediately went from a play in team to winning at a 80% rate by simply replacing him with OG in the starting line up.





It turns out that it’s probably a wise idea to upgrade on a guy that’s on both these lists and is a weak defender too.

Masai will trade him as soon as he can find a team that wants him.

The second list only shows me that RJ is bad at FT. According to that list, Castle and Giannis should be out of the league. So yeah, "good" argument.

Besides the Pelicans did not get RJ as they needed to shed salary both short an long term, and wanted a pick.

Think before you post.

[ATLTimekeeper]

The upgrade doesn't have to be linear. There are more teams that can use an expiring Johnson vs an expiring Barrett in a year's time. Even RJ's biggest supporters will agree that he's hard to fit in a lot of places. By doing the swap, we maintain the salary/term and increase the potential destinations/trade partners.

The Nets also have a lot of 2027 picks that can be included to round things out. If the FO doesn't like the back half of the lottery, why not move off of RJ and bring in a better trade asset in Johnson, pick a player later in the draft at a lower guaranteed salary for further cap flexibility, and add pick capital in the future?

We just threw 2 full seasons just to end up with #9. You're arguing we need to move down to get off RJ's negative asset with what amounts to an easier to trade UFA (who would be 31 at that time) and a small amount of cap room.

[HumbleRen]

I don’t believe that for a second. And who are you for me to believe. Opinions are like ****. We all have one. Why should we care about yours?

We literally just tried to trade him at the trade deadline and a team like the poverty Pelicans said nah I’m good on RJ.

Knicks immediately went from a play in team to winning at a 80% rate by simply replacing him with OG in the starting line up.





It turns out that it’s probably a wise idea to upgrade on a guy that’s on both these lists and is a weak defender too.

Masai will trade him as soon as he can find a team that wants him.

The second list only shows me that RJ is bad at FT. According to that list, Castle and Giannis should be out of the league. So yeah, "good" argument.

Besides the Pelicans did not get RJ as they needed to shed salary both short an long term, and wanted a pick.

Think before you post.

You can cope all you want. Masai is not giving him that extension. Look around the league, guards who are not efficient and can’t play defence are getting wiped out. There’s no place for them on playoff teams unless they come off the bench. Masai knows this. You’ll learn in due time.

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Lots of teams within the top 5 are interested in Maluach ....Don't look like he will make it to 9th...

[Rapsfan07]

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Lots of teams within the top 5 are interested in Maluach ....Don't look like he will make it to 9th...

This is excellent news.

[Indeed]

Edey says hi. The experts here told me last year that Edey will be unplayable in NBA, and they wouldn't even draft him with the 2nd round pick.

I don't claim I know how Maluach will turn out, he could be a star, or bust, but some people here are soooo opinionated right?

Yet, Edey is better than Maluach in every category in Combine measurement, and his lane agility being 11.19 vs Maluach being 12.05 are massive.
The opinion that is based on result and stats will be more accurate than just "look likes".

I was not comparing the two at all. Read the full chain of quotes and you'll see. Thanks

Or perhaps you missed my point. The opinion should base on information, not just "look likes". The reason people changed their mind on Edey says a lot on his result and measurement. He was no longer in the 2nd round conversation, as people see him able to defend better on the perimeter. His standing reach and wingspan is another league.

[ForeverTFC]

The upgrade doesn't have to be linear. There are more teams that can use an expiring Johnson vs an expiring Barrett in a year's time. Even RJ's biggest supporters will agree that he's hard to fit in a lot of places. By doing the swap, we maintain the salary/term and increase the potential destinations/trade partners.

The Nets also have a lot of 2027 picks that can be included to round things out. If the FO doesn't like the back half of the lottery, why not move off of RJ and bring in a better trade asset in Johnson, pick a player later in the draft at a lower guaranteed salary for further cap flexibility, and add pick capital in the future?

We just threw 2 full seasons just to end up with #9. You're arguing we need to move down to get off RJ's negative asset with what amounts to an easier to trade UFA (who would be 31 at that time) and a small amount of cap room.

Yes, + future pick capital AND IF the FO doesn't like its options in the back half of the lottery. I think we both agree that they know better than all of us what the value of that slot is, no?

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Lots of teams within the top 5 are interested in Maluach ....Don't look like he will make it to 9th...

This is excellent news.

No where mentioned top 5. It is meant for the 14th pick. Spurs has 2 picks.

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