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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#341 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 5, 2025 6:00 pm

Just imagine Melo and Mann going down to injury again and Jrue running the team instead of Vasa Micic who's just here to drink beer and pork American girls.

We can't truly fathom what a difference that change would make for our season.

By adding Jrue we are ensuring we don't forfeit a 4th straight season to injuries to key players. Give this young core, pick 4 and future draft picks some stable ground, a foundation to build on. That starts with coaching, but you need vet leadership as an extension of the coach on the floor, reinforcing good habits and buidling structure.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#342 » by yosemiteben » Thu Jun 5, 2025 6:29 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:And just think if we could unload someone useless like Josh Green in a deal for Jrue. It's 3 years adding Jrue but subtract 2 years of Green. Addition by subtraction.

It's like adding 3-4 Greens each on longer deals, his salary is way higher and IMO he's on a serious decline.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#343 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 5, 2025 6:50 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:And just think if we could unload someone useless like Josh Green in a deal for Jrue. It's 3 years adding Jrue but subtract 2 years of Green. Addition by subtraction.

It's like adding 3-4 Greens each on longer deals, his salary is way higher and IMO he's on a serious decline.


Perhaps he looked cooked at the end of this long season. But his numbers were pretty stable and aligned with career standards.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#344 » by yosemiteben » Thu Jun 5, 2025 7:09 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
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MasterIchiro wrote:And just think if we could unload someone useless like Josh Green in a deal for Jrue. It's 3 years adding Jrue but subtract 2 years of Green. Addition by subtraction.

It's like adding 3-4 Greens each on longer deals, his salary is way higher and IMO he's on a serious decline.


Perhaps he looked cooked at the end of this long season. But his numbers were pretty stable and aligned with career standards.

Yeah that's fair, just went and checked his stats and the fall off statistically is not as large as I expected from the year before. He turns 35 next week though, that fall off has to be coming.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#345 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 5, 2025 7:13 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
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yosemiteben wrote:It's like adding 3-4 Greens each on longer deals, his salary is way higher and IMO he's on a serious decline.


Perhaps he looked cooked at the end of this long season. But his numbers were pretty stable and aligned with career standards.

Yeah that's fair, just went and checked his stats and the fall off statistically is not as large as I expected from the year before. He turns 35 next week though, that fall off has to be coming.


Well he'd have LaMelo sharing the workload of fighting through the defense, the same way Boston runs offense through shared playmaking on-ball duties with Jrue and D. White.

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And this is a guy who has finished top 10 in DPOY voting 4 years running coming into this past season.

I think he has plenty of life in the tank to play both sides of the ball with gusto.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#346 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Jun 5, 2025 7:26 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Jrue is old and declining. He serves no purpose for us we aren't even close to being a playoff team. If we want leadership we can find it for much cheaper.

Jrue will be traded to another playoff team. Usually the good guys get traded to places that are good situations. Trading Jrue to Charlotte would feel like punishment lol


Don't sell us short.

The value of Jrue is the increased value of LaMelo, Miller, and pick 4 developing under sound leadership, and developing good winning habits they will carry with them for the team long after his contract is up.

Did Melo benefit from Rozier and Hayward? Definitely. We won 43 games with him starting with them.

The Pacers reached the Finals on just 7 additional wins.

Did Detroit give up before courting Tobias Harris? No, they paid him his money and entrusted him with a leadership position. They were not in a position to add a young impact guy. You'd have to surrender your own picks for that. They already lost their pick in this draft from a trade.

We still didn't make the playoffs with Rozier and Hayward. Both were probably better players at the time. We would be getting a aging Jrue in this scenario.

If this was 5 years ago I would be all for Jrue. But at 35 and the money he makes it just doesn't seem worth it imo.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#347 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 5, 2025 7:29 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Jrue is old and declining. He serves no purpose for us we aren't even close to being a playoff team. If we want leadership we can find it for much cheaper.

Jrue will be traded to another playoff team. Usually the good guys get traded to places that are good situations. Trading Jrue to Charlotte would feel like punishment lol


Don't sell us short.

The value of Jrue is the increased value of LaMelo, Miller, and pick 4 developing under sound leadership, and developing good winning habits they will carry with them for the team long after his contract is up.

Did Melo benefit from Rozier and Hayward? Definitely. We won 43 games with him starting with them.

The Pacers reached the Finals on just 7 additional wins.

Did Detroit give up before courting Tobias Harris? No, they paid him his money and entrusted him with a leadership position. They were not in a position to add a young impact guy. You'd have to surrender your own picks for that. They already lost their pick in this draft from a trade.

We still didn't make the playoffs with Rozier and Hayward. Both were probably better players at the time. We would be getting a aging Jrue in this scenario.

If this was 5 years ago I would be all for Jrue. But at 35 and the money he makes it just doesn't seem worth it imo.


Jrue is DPOY caliber. That alone makes him a winning player over Rozier or Hayward. And his whole season stats aligned with his career numbers stack up well vs. Rozier and Hayward.

He's tougher than both, and smarter than both, and helped lead 2 different teams to an NBA title.

He is a legit player and cheap.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#348 » by JMAC3 » Thu Jun 5, 2025 10:57 pm

The Celtics are looking to dump his contract, might even pay to get rid of it.

If we had 15-20 million in cap space to help off-set salary for Boston they might do it, but the goal in trading him is for them to just completely remove his salary from books and not take back money. Ie: Brooklyn or Detroit will likely be involved.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#349 » by HornetJail » Thu Jun 5, 2025 11:00 pm

JMAC3 wrote:The Celtics are looking to dump his contract, might even pay to get rid of it.

If we had 15-20 million in cap space to help off-set salary for Boston they might do it, but the goal in trading him is for them to just completely remove his salary from books and not take back money. Ie: Brooklyn or Detroit will likely be involved.

the best case scenario imo is that we send out Grant and Green to 3rd and 4th teams with cap space or an exception, and Boston pays the picks to get pure cap space (they own 32 and a very high 2nd next year as well
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#350 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 5, 2025 11:14 pm

HornetJail wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:The Celtics are looking to dump his contract, might even pay to get rid of it.

If we had 15-20 million in cap space to help off-set salary for Boston they might do it, but the goal in trading him is for them to just completely remove his salary from books and not take back money. Ie: Brooklyn or Detroit will likely be involved.

the best case scenario imo is that we send out Grant and Green to 3rd and 4th teams with cap space or an exception, and Boston pays the picks to get pure cap space (they own 32 and a very high 2nd next year as well


I'd be willing to kick in 33 and 34.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#351 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Jun 5, 2025 11:18 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
HornetJail wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:The Celtics are looking to dump his contract, might even pay to get rid of it.

If we had 15-20 million in cap space to help off-set salary for Boston they might do it, but the goal in trading him is for them to just completely remove his salary from books and not take back money. Ie: Brooklyn or Detroit will likely be involved.

the best case scenario imo is that we send out Grant and Green to 3rd and 4th teams with cap space or an exception, and Boston pays the picks to get pure cap space (they own 32 and a very high 2nd next year as well


I'd be willing to kick in 33 and 34.
Who are we drafting assuming we make the Jrue trade?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#352 » by JMAC3 » Thu Jun 5, 2025 11:28 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
HornetJail wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:The Celtics are looking to dump his contract, might even pay to get rid of it.

If we had 15-20 million in cap space to help off-set salary for Boston they might do it, but the goal in trading him is for them to just completely remove his salary from books and not take back money. Ie: Brooklyn or Detroit will likely be involved.

the best case scenario imo is that we send out Grant and Green to 3rd and 4th teams with cap space or an exception, and Boston pays the picks to get pure cap space (they own 32 and a very high 2nd next year as well


I'd be willing to kick in 33 and 34.


I don't see Brooklyn taking on 30 million this year and 30 million the next for a few 2nd rounders, especially in a draft where they already have a bunch of picks.


Probably would need to be Nurkic, Green and 2026 1st (worse of 5 swaps)
Brooklyn gets pick and take on Money
Boston pure dump of Holiday

Important to remember Brooklyn only team with cap space, so they can sell it for a lot likely.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#353 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 5, 2025 11:29 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
HornetJail wrote:the best case scenario imo is that we send out Grant and Green to 3rd and 4th teams with cap space or an exception, and Boston pays the picks to get pure cap space (they own 32 and a very high 2nd next year as well


I'd be willing to kick in 33 and 34.
Who are we drafting assuming we make the Jrue trade?


Ace or Tre.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#354 » by Diop » Fri Jun 6, 2025 12:17 am

ive mentioned trading for Jrue before, im a fan for what he could do for the next couple of years.
i know he's expensive, but i think he would lift the group.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#355 » by HornetJail » Fri Jun 6, 2025 3:17 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
HornetJail wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:The Celtics are looking to dump his contract, might even pay to get rid of it.

If we had 15-20 million in cap space to help off-set salary for Boston they might do it, but the goal in trading him is for them to just completely remove his salary from books and not take back money. Ie: Brooklyn or Detroit will likely be involved.

the best case scenario imo is that we send out Grant and Green to 3rd and 4th teams with cap space or an exception, and Boston pays the picks to get pure cap space (they own 32 and a very high 2nd next year as well


I'd be willing to kick in 33 and 34.

i think i'd trade one not both. the Celtics also have two picks in that range, i'm cool going halfsies on the salary dumps
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#356 » by Diop » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:49 am

these finals have highlighted the need for thicker, stronger guards. you need to play through contact, the playoffs are so physical
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#357 » by fatlever » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:27 pm

Read on Twitter
?t=aTeaxDoxx-2dun_ob2ffIA&s=19

Not that I really believe there's anything here. But if true would be like the 15th indicator from the front office that they have little intention of competing next year.

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Post#358 » by SWedd523 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:32 pm

Why is anyone still surprised by notion that they plan to be trash again next year?


Edit: *ahem* why is anyone surprised by more evidence that they don't plan to "sacrifice long term sustainability in the name of short term results"

or whatever their lean six sigma approved deflection talking point is
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Post#359 » by Bassman » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:35 pm

fatlever wrote:
Read on Twitter
?t=aTeaxDoxx-2dun_ob2ffIA&s=19

Not that I really believe there's anything here. But if true would be like the 15th indicator from the front office that they have little intention of competing next year.

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OMG, this front office is hopeless. I really can’t cope with yet another year of circle jerk from these clowns. Beal is absolutely a junk car right now. And I don’t want anything to do with Holiday BTW, especially if we give up a pick to take on an old guy with a bad contract.

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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#360 » by JMAC3 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:37 pm

Bassman wrote:
fatlever wrote:
Read on Twitter
?t=aTeaxDoxx-2dun_ob2ffIA&s=19

Not that I really believe there's anything here. But if true would be like the 15th indicator from the front office that they have little intention of competing next year.

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OMG, this front office is hopeless. I really can’t cope with yet another year of circle jerk from these clowns. Beal is absolutely a junk car right now. And I don’t want anything to do with Holiday BTW, especially if we give up a pick to take on an old guy with a bad contract.

Are the Hornets the JUNKYARD OF THE NBA?


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