Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd

[dukeknicksirish]

Nembhard should be the new starting PG for the Knicks.

His brother is in the draft this year 0_o

[LookToShoot]

Nembhard should be the new starting PG for the Knicks.

His brother is in the draft this year 0_o

Is he just as good?

[HopelessKnick]

I kind of doubt that report about an offer being made. Remember Mitch was was barely playing at that time. If we traded KAT for Durant who would have played Center?

[KnixinSix]

I kind of doubt that report about an offer being made. Remember Mitch was was barely playing at that time. If we traded KAT for Durant who would have played Center?

It wouldn't have been KAT. He was playing dominant at the time and is controlled for next 3 years. It would have been Bridges who was complaining and playing inconsistent (who also had 1 year left on deal), it would have been Mitch who was not playing who also had one year left on deal, and Hart for salary matching.

[HopelessKnick]

I kind of doubt that report about an offer being made. Remember Mitch was was barely playing at that time. If we traded KAT for Durant who would have played Center?

It wouldn't have been KAT. He was playing dominant at the time and is controlled for next 3 years. It would have been Bridges who was complaining and playing inconsistent (who also had 1 year left on deal), it would have been Mitch who was not playing who also had one year left on deal, and Hart for salary matching.

Glad it fell through. Brunson + Durant + KAT would constitute a line-up where a defensive stop becomes essentially impossible. I'm not against a Durant trade but if the idea is to pair Durant and KAT upfront with Brunson in the backcourt then I would entirely oppose that. Not going to work.

[KnixinSix]

I kind of doubt that report about an offer being made. Remember Mitch was was barely playing at that time. If we traded KAT for Durant who would have played Center?

It wouldn't have been KAT. He was playing dominant at the time and is controlled for next 3 years. It would have been Bridges who was complaining and playing inconsistent (who also had 1 year left on deal), it would have been Mitch who was not playing who also had one year left on deal, and Hart for salary matching.

Glad it fell through. Brunson + Durant + KAT would constitute a line-up where a defensive stop becomes essentially impossible. I'm not against a Durant trade but if the idea is to pair Durant and KAT upfront with Brunson in the backcourt then I would entirely oppose that. Not going to work.

Look I am a big proponent of defense but I recognize having a phenomenal offense with a couple key defenders can win too (with the right coach that gets them playing well enough as a team defensively)...

I mean Indiana is not exactly doing too bad at the moment are they? You would still have OG, McBride, Wright (if resigned to a minimum) , perhaps Achiuwa too.

Again its not necessarily my first choice but if I didnt have to give up KAT and Im giving up a couple guys in the final year of their deal + Hart , Id still do it. Its KD. And he didnt show some alarming sign last year of dropping off a cliff as a player. The 5 out offense would potentially be historic.

[Signature NYK]

Assuming we don't move on from KAT we need to prioritize pairing him with a versatile defensive power forward that can do each of the following things

1. Protect the rim
2. Defend 4s and 5s
3. Shoot the 3 ball well enough that we can still play 5 out

Ideal target in this scenario is JJJ but that **** ain't happening (unless the Grizz prefer Mikal and Idk why they would)

I'd look to be a sneaky part of a trade for KD to Houston and try to move Mitch + the 2025 Was 1st for Jabari Smith Jr.

He hasn't really lived up to his top two draft position but he's a budding defender in this leauge and he can shoot it. It would cost us Mitch and I know we all love him but I think this trade is worth it for the spot we're in right now.

KD and Mitch to Houston
Jalen Green and Dillion Brooks and the Was 1st to PHX
Jabrari Smith Jr to NY

Then sign Brook Lopez to the partial MLE of $5.7 mil for some added rim protection and shooting, hopefully he looks at this as a chance to compete for a chip again and takes less. Can also mentor youngins Jabari and Huk...

Maybe resign precious to be a innings eater incase of injury again? Same with Shamet. Let Kolek get the backup PG mins as we're gonna need his offensive creativity.

KAT/Lopez/Huk
Jabari/OG/Precious
OG/Hart/Shamet
Mikal/Deuce/Hart
Brunson/Kolek/Deuce

This allows Mikal and OG to shift to their more natural positions at the 2 and 3 respectively.

[KnixinSix]

Assuming we don't move on from KAT we need to prioritize pairing him with a versatile defensive power forward that can do each of the following things

1. Protect the rim
2. Defend 4s and 5s
3. Shoot the 3 ball well enough that we can still play 5 out

Ideal target in this scenario is JJJ but that **** ain't happening (unless the Grizz prefer Mikal and Idk why they would)

I'd look to be a sneaky part of a trade for KD to Houston and try to move Mitch + the 2025 Was 1st for Jabari Smith Jr.

He hasn't really lived up to his top two draft position but he's a budding defender in this leauge and he can shoot it. It would cost us Mitch and I know we all love him but I think this trade is worth it for the spot we're in right now.

KD and Mitch to Houston
Jalen Green and Dillion Brooks and the Was 1st to PHX
Jabrari Smith Jr to NY

Then sign Brook Lopez to the partial MLE of $5.7 mil for some added rim protection and shooting, hopefully he looks at this as a chance to compete for a chip again and takes less. Can also mentor youngins Jabari and Huk...

Maybe resign precious to be a innings eater incase of injury again? Same with Shamet. Let Kolek get the backup PG mins as we're gonna need his offensive creativity.

KAT/Lopez/Huk
Jabari/OG/Precious
OG/Hart/Shamet
Mikal/Deuce/Hart
Brunson/Kolek/Deuce

This allows Mikal and OG to shift to their more natural positions at the 2 and 3 respectively.

1. JJJ is on the last year of his deal
2. JJJ is CAA and his former agent was Rose
3. Rose is trying to bring in coach players want to play for
4. JJJ missed out on qualifying for the supermax which means Memphis lost significant financial advantage in resigning him
5. If JJJ hints he may not re-sign, Memphis would very likely make him available.

When a trade happens it isn't just bc a team wants to trade a guy in a vacuum, its the other factors involved that often make it happen. For instance if Minny wasn't in that financial hole due to the new cba, they likely would have never traded KAT to us.

[HopelessKnick]

It wouldn't have been KAT. He was playing dominant at the time and is controlled for next 3 years. It would have been Bridges who was complaining and playing inconsistent (who also had 1 year left on deal), it would have been Mitch who was not playing who also had one year left on deal, and Hart for salary matching.

Glad it fell through. Brunson + Durant + KAT would constitute a line-up where a defensive stop becomes essentially impossible. I'm not against a Durant trade but if the idea is to pair Durant and KAT upfront with Brunson in the backcourt then I would entirely oppose that. Not going to work.

Look I am a big proponent of defense but I recognize having a phenomenal offense with a couple key defenders can win too (with the right coach that gets them playing well enough as a team defensively)...

I mean Indiana is not exactly doing too bad at the moment are they? You would still have OG, McBride, Wright (if resigned to a minimum) , perhaps Achiuwa too.

Again its not necessarily my first choice but if I didnt have to give up KAT and Im giving up a couple guys in the final year of their deal + Hart , Id still do it. Its KD. And he didnt show some alarming sign last year of dropping off a cliff as a player. The 5 out offense would potentially be historic.

I prefer a different direction. Again, not against a KD trade but IMO I would want to pair KD at the 4 with a defensive 5. KD is still solid on defense. I think the best chances to win a ring with Brunson at the 1 is to pair him with a rotation full of good defenders.

As for the Pacers I don't really know how much it supports your essential point. The Pacers are not a great defensive team but except Haliburton (who is not a good defenders but longish at the 1 at 6'5) they have good defenders in the line-up. Nembhard, Nesmith, Siakam, Turner---all good defenders. They are already not great defensively but if say Siakam and Turner were bad defensively they wouldn't have made it to the finals. But I guess it is a matter of philosophy in the end. And then keep in mind with KD, KAT and Brunson you essentially have 3 guys scoring over 25 points---OG would struggle to get to 15. You want an engaged OG on defense---when he is not being involved offensively his defense tends to be worse as well.

For me the best approach would be to turn KAT into two strong 2-way players......like 2 guys that can give you around 15-17 points on efficient shooting and be versatile defenders....

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[Fury]

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Gery Woelfel?

[TheGreenArrow]

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Gery Woelfel?

He’s a longgggg time bucks beat reporter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He knows everything when it comes to Milwaukee sports!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[nykballa2k4]

It wouldn't have been KAT. He was playing dominant at the time and is controlled for next 3 years. It would have been Bridges who was complaining and playing inconsistent (who also had 1 year left on deal), it would have been Mitch who was not playing who also had one year left on deal, and Hart for salary matching.

Glad it fell through. Brunson + Durant + KAT would constitute a line-up where a defensive stop becomes essentially impossible. I'm not against a Durant trade but if the idea is to pair Durant and KAT upfront with Brunson in the backcourt then I would entirely oppose that. Not going to work.

Look I am a big proponent of defense but I recognize having a phenomenal offense with a couple key defenders can win too (with the right coach that gets them playing well enough as a team defensively)...

I mean Indiana is not exactly doing too bad at the moment are they? You would still have OG, McBride, Wright (if resigned to a minimum) , perhaps Achiuwa too.

Again its not necessarily my first choice but if I didnt have to give up KAT and Im giving up a couple guys in the final year of their deal + Hart , Id still do it. Its KD. And he didnt show some alarming sign last year of dropping off a cliff as a player. The 5 out offense would potentially be historic.

If we were entertaining a KD to NY trade at the deadline, then we have been dead longer than we have realized...

[SARGO127]

Knicks Trade
- Bridges
- OG
- Hart
- Wiz 1st
- 2 Future Swap

Knicks Get
- Giannis
- Vassell

Spurs Trade
- Vassell
- Barnes
- #2

Spurs Get
- OG
- Pat C

Bucks Trade
- Giannis
- Pat C

Bucks Get
- #2
- Bridges
- Hart
- Barnes
- 2 Swaps from NYK

Something like that?

[8516knicks]

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I would think anything termed a "Tsunami" offer would have to include either Brunson or KAT or both. What else do we have that says "Tsunami"?

[Pr0nzingis]

Nº1 I don't get why people say Knicks don't have a chance because we have no picks to offer. Bucks can trade the players we trade to them for picks. Why would a team take picks for picks sake instead of players that can get them better picks? Its all about value.

Nº2 I don't believe Bucks will trade Giannis. They lost to the team that went to the finals. If Pacers lost to Cavs or Knicks maybe they do it.

[The KnicksFix]

How tf we gonna make a tsunami trade??
We aren’t trading Brunson
And I don’t see this team trading Mikal or og
It’s KAT

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