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Re: NBA Playoff Games 2025, Non-Celtics 

Post#1561 » by Marvel » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:34 am

I hope the Pacers win their first championship. I like their style on both ends and Carlisle is an awesome coach.
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Post#1562 » by Shak_Celts » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:24 am

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ConstableGeneva wrote:You're not tired of the pullup three as his main weapon?

It’s not the only shot we attempt to win games. Another case of overreacting to something when it works. JB hit the winner game 1 of the ECF from a C&S. Pretty much put g3 of the finals away on a middy. Tatum has hit other types of game winners or clinches too. Harping on the ones they missed. Why not the shot where Tatum got to the basket and missed the layup, I don’t recall the game but I think it was one of the Pacers games last season, but we made it to OT. Was it game 1 also?

I’m tired of the step back threes, but it’s not the only shots we have generated. It stands out because we lost this season.

It stands out because he's bad at it. If he was making a decent percentage on those, I won't complain much. It's been going on for years. I think he's only had one good season with that pullup.

Meh, the greatest players in history, have a horrible percentage on game winners, still want them taking them…

I’m not saying I want him to spam them, I’m saying some of what you guys are saying is recency bias. It’s not all he does. Not only that, you were using a shot that Hali just made versus the step backs that Tatum was missing… when Hali took the same type of shot a couple weeks ago.
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Re: NBA Playoff Games 2025, Non-Celtics 

Post#1563 » by Shak_Celts » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:31 am

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ConstableGeneva wrote:You're not tired of the pullup three as his main weapon?

It’s not the only shot we attempt to win games. Another case of overreacting to something when it works. JB hit the winner game 1 of the ECF from a C&S. Pretty much put g3 of the finals away on a middy. Tatum has hit other types of game winners or clinches too. Harping on the ones they missed. Why not the shot where Tatum got to the basket and missed the layup, I don’t recall the game but I think it was one of the Pacers games last season, but we made it to OT. Was it game 1 also?

I’m tired of the step back threes, but it’s not the only shots we have generated. It stands out because we lost this season.


If its not the 3ball, JT looks lost on offense in the clutch. End of game 2 shows it all. JT can’t take a 3 with us down 1. He did that game 1 and he bricked it bad. He ended up taking a weak fade away in the side that got blocked by two guys trying to pass it the last second. He doesn’t know what to do in those situatuons. Sorry but JT needs to be better, and just stop with thise side step 3’s.


There are examples of Tatum, not doing side step threes and hitting clutch shots just like the one Hali just hit. He’s taken it to the basket and has missed too. Hali is on a heater of clutch shots, but he has taken crap shots and missed, same side step and step back threes. The example from game one of the ECF says all there is to be said, but of course he made it so it didn’t happen I guess.


When they are made, the player is a god, when they miss it’s horrible.


The same shots Tatum missed against the Knicks were ones he sent the Embiids fishing with just a few seasons ago!
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Post#1564 » by playa-hater » Fri Jun 6, 2025 6:09 am

Infinite Llamas wrote:Aaron Nesmith and Pritchard winnning chips in b2b years would be pretty sick


Yeah, it would be pretty sick and I am the one getting sick. :-?

Just a reminder. I was the one screaming for those 2 players. To play so much more for our team. Instead, coach emai played rag tag. Veterans who fit like a square peg. In a round hole.

Still don't understand why 2 players who are so mentally. Tough and gritty and full of energy was shot down and especially considering they had great shooting potential.
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Post#1565 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Jun 6, 2025 6:12 am

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Post#1566 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Jun 6, 2025 6:20 am

Shak_Celts wrote:
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Shak_Celts wrote:It’s not the only shot we attempt to win games. Another case of overreacting to something when it works. JB hit the winner game 1 of the ECF from a C&S. Pretty much put g3 of the finals away on a middy. Tatum has hit other types of game winners or clinches too. Harping on the ones they missed. Why not the shot where Tatum got to the basket and missed the layup, I don’t recall the game but I think it was one of the Pacers games last season, but we made it to OT. Was it game 1 also?

I’m tired of the step back threes, but it’s not the only shots we have generated. It stands out because we lost this season.

It stands out because he's bad at it. If he was making a decent percentage on those, I won't complain much. It's been going on for years. I think he's only had one good season with that pullup.

Meh, the greatest players in history, have a horrible percentage on game winners, still want them taking them…

I’m not saying I want him to spam them, I’m saying some of what you guys are saying is recency bias. It’s not all he does. Not only that, you were using a shot that Hali just made versus the step backs that Tatum was missing… when Hali took the same type of shot a couple weeks ago.

Except he did spam them on (I forget which game against the Knicks). Considering the Knicks have Brunson and KAT on defense, it really did feel like Tatum settled for his pullup three too much. I'd rather him attack the basket and miss than dribble dance up top for his sidestep three with everyone else just standing around.

His free throw attempt rate went down this season (both RS and PS) as his 3-pt attempt rate increased. And it's not like he was shooting lights out from 3 to justify that increase.
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Post#1567 » by Tyakack » Fri Jun 6, 2025 6:44 am

I don't like using terms like, "A team of destiny." But.......If this pacer's team isn't a team of destiny idk who the hell is.
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Post#1568 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri Jun 6, 2025 6:57 am

I thought TOs would kill the Pacers, but they overcame 24... To me, this was and still is the key for them.
Good assessment:

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Post#1569 » by FlatearthZorro » Fri Jun 6, 2025 7:12 am

By the way, it is damn impressive we beat that Pacers team in 4. It's the exact same team, imo... Not to make a big thing out of it.. And I know Hali didn't play in 2 games, but in the 2nd, we blew them out of the water and Hali played over 30 mins if I remember correctly.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#1570 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 7:19 am

Not a peep about Mark Daigneault's coaching despite the Thunder blowing a 15 point fourth quarter lead.

He even did the thing everybody pretends to hate where he doesn't take any timeout (zero in the last seven and half minutes outside the one for the last shot attempt).

His main "adjustment" was starting a guy that exploded for 6 points, 2 rebounds, 1 assist in 34 minutes on 3/9 shooting and was a team low -13 (nobody else was below -4).

Hmmm double standards are obvious.
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Post#1571 » by Triple7 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 7:32 am

Shak_Celts wrote:
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Shak_Celts wrote:It’s not the only shot we attempt to win games. Another case of overreacting to something when it works. JB hit the winner game 1 of the ECF from a C&S. Pretty much put g3 of the finals away on a middy. Tatum has hit other types of game winners or clinches too. Harping on the ones they missed. Why not the shot where Tatum got to the basket and missed the layup, I don’t recall the game but I think it was one of the Pacers games last season, but we made it to OT. Was it game 1 also?

I’m tired of the step back threes, but it’s not the only shots we have generated. It stands out because we lost this season.


If its not the 3ball, JT looks lost on offense in the clutch. End of game 2 shows it all. JT can’t take a 3 with us down 1. He did that game 1 and he bricked it bad. He ended up taking a weak fade away in the side that got blocked by two guys trying to pass it the last second. He doesn’t know what to do in those situatuons. Sorry but JT needs to be better, and just stop with thise side step 3’s.


There are examples of Tatum, not doing side step threes and hitting clutch shots just like the one Hali just hit. He’s taken it to the basket and has missed too. Hali is on a heater of clutch shots, but he has taken crap shots and missed, same side step and step back threes. The example from game one of the ECF says all there is to be said, but of course he made it so it didn’t happen I guess.


When they are made, the player is a god, when they miss it’s horrible.


The same shots Tatum missed against the Knicks were ones he sent the Embiids fishing with just a few seasons ago!


Tatum has been horrible on clutch shots the past two playoffs. He is regressing on that part. I don’t trust him on end game situations. PP would have at least got a shot off everytime. Tatum has average handles, can’t stop on a dime to take a mid range. That’s why he has a difficult time scoring. and when he does get to the rim, his shot making skills are average. He misses a lot of wide open layups for a superstar. He needs to be better on a lot of things.
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Post#1572 » by Triple7 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 7:34 am

FlatearthZorro wrote:By the way, it is damn impressive we beat that Pacers team in 4. It's the exact same team, imo... Not to make a big thing out of it.. And I know Hali didn't play in 2 games, but in the 2nd, we blew them out of the water and Hali played over 30 mins if I remember correctly.


If we played them this year playing like this, they probably beat us in 6.
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Post#1573 » by 165bows » Fri Jun 6, 2025 10:25 am

Ngl I’d rather have OKC win it. I just don’t like these teams that have mediocre regular seasons and then get hot in the playoffs and win, like hockey. Just devalues an already devalued regular season.

Otoh will be really interesting to watch if Okc struggles now that they aren’t a front runner. Young team if they start playing off their back foot they could look a lot differently.

Still think Okc wins it though.
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Post#1574 » by Fierce1 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 10:59 am

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:Not a peep about Mark Daigneault's coaching despite the Thunder blowing a 15 point fourth quarter lead.

He even did the thing everybody pretends to hate where he doesn't take any timeout (zero in the last seven and half minutes outside the one for the last shot attempt).

His main "adjustment" was starting a guy that exploded for 6 points, 2 rebounds, 1 assist in 34 minutes on 3/9 shooting and was a team low -13 (nobody else was below -4).

Hmmm double standards are obvious.

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Post#1575 » by Floody100 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:43 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:Not a peep about Mark Daigneault's coaching despite the Thunder blowing a 15 point fourth quarter lead.

He even did the thing everybody pretends to hate where he doesn't take any timeout (zero in the last seven and half minutes outside the one for the last shot attempt).

His main "adjustment" was starting a guy that exploded for 6 points, 2 rebounds, 1 assist in 34 minutes on 3/9 shooting and was a team low -13 (nobody else was below -4).

Hmmm double standards are obvious.


Just exposing one couch coach on this forum at a time that thinks they know what they’re talking about :lol:

It’s never been about basketball for that crowd, only personal against Joe.
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Post#1576 » by ThePigeon » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:47 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:Not a peep about Mark Daigneault's coaching despite the Thunder blowing a 15 point fourth quarter lead.

He even did the thing everybody pretends to hate where he doesn't take any timeout (zero in the last seven and half minutes outside the one for the last shot attempt).

His main "adjustment" was starting a guy that exploded for 6 points, 2 rebounds, 1 assist in 34 minutes on 3/9 shooting and was a team low -13 (nobody else was below -4).

Hmmm double standards are obvious.


Last I checked Daigneault wasn't the Celtics coach
We are the Celtics. We criticize our own
I don't care about other teams. As far as I am concerned - all players can get an illness that passes right away or a rash that prevents them to play against us and we cruise 150 -10 for 82 games and the playoff

Yes, and Daigneault game management was dumb. This not makes our coach any better
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Post#1577 » by Fierce1 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 2:21 pm

SGA missed the potential dagger and the Pacers grabbed the rebound.

No timeout was called by the Pacers, Rick just trusted Haliburton and Haliburton delivered.

There was no play, Hali just went 1 on 1 and made the game winning shot.

Same thing happened in Game 1 against the Knicks.
Joe trusted JT and JT missed the potential game winning shot with the score tied.

The result was Joe got blamed for not drawing up a play.

Rick Carlisle looked good by not calling timeout and putting it in the hands of Hali.

Players really make the coaches look good or bad.

If Hali missed that shot then some will say why didn't Rick call a timeout to draw up a play.
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Post#1578 » by playa-hater » Fri Jun 6, 2025 2:41 pm

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Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:Not a peep about Mark Daigneault's coaching despite the Thunder blowing a 15 point fourth quarter lead.

He even did the thing everybody pretends to hate where he doesn't take any timeout (zero in the last seven and half minutes outside the one for the last shot attempt).

His main "adjustment" was starting a guy that exploded for 6 points, 2 rebounds, 1 assist in 34 minutes on 3/9 shooting and was a team low -13 (nobody else was below -4).

Hmmm double standards are obvious.


Last I checked Daigneault wasn't the Celtics coach
We are the Celtics. We criticize our own
I don't care about other teams. As far as I am concerned - all players can get an illness that passes right away or a rash that prevents them to play against us and we cruise 150 -10 for 82 games and the playoff

Yes, and Daigneault game management was dumb. This not makes our coach any better


Exactly this. There are 29 other coaches and yet we have only one. I guess not criticizing the others is some sort of Morale victory for Joe stans. I mean what does any other coaches' flaws have to do with Joe. Sounds like "let's bring down as many other coaches to Joe's level because we can't raise coach Joe's level of coaching"
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Post#1579 » by fallguy » Fri Jun 6, 2025 2:48 pm

Fierce1 wrote:SGA missed the potential dagger and the Pacers grabbed the rebound.

No timeout was called by the Pacers, Rick just trusted Haliburton and Haliburton delivered.

There was no play, Hali just went 1 on 1 and made the game winning shot.

Same thing happened in Game 1 against the Knicks.
Joe trusted JT and JT missed the potential game winning shot with the score tied.

The result was Joe got blamed for not drawing up a play.

Rick Carlisle looked good by not calling timeout and putting it in the hands of Hali.

Players really make the coaches look good or bad.

If Hali missed that shot then some will say why didn't Rick call a timeout to draw up a play.


Nah, they're different situations. Our guys don't problem solve in the moment very effectively. A set play is better. Whereas the last thing you want to do if you're Indiana is go up against a set OKC defense.
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Post#1580 » by Fierce1 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 2:50 pm

fallguy wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:SGA missed the potential dagger and the Pacers grabbed the rebound.

No timeout was called by the Pacers, Rick just trusted Haliburton and Haliburton delivered.

There was no play, Hali just went 1 on 1 and made the game winning shot.

Same thing happened in Game 1 against the Knicks.
Joe trusted JT and JT missed the potential game winning shot with the score tied.

The result was Joe got blamed for not drawing up a play.

Rick Carlisle looked good by not calling timeout and putting it in the hands of Hali.

Players really make the coaches look good or bad.

If Hali missed that shot then some will say why didn't Rick call a timeout to draw up a play.


Nah, they're different situations. Our guys don't problem solve in the moment very effectively. A set play is better. Whereas the last thing you want to do if you're Indiana is go up against a set OKC defense.

True.

I'm just pointing out that coaches are at the mercy of their star players.

If JT made that step back in Game 1 and the Cs won, Celtic fans will not be talking about Joe.

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