If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks?

Moderators: cupcakesnake, bwgood77, zimpy27, infinite11285, Domejandro, ken6199, bisme37, Dirk, KingDavid

User avatar
Optms
RealGM
Posts: 23,444
And1: 19,731
Joined: Jun 11, 2009
 

If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#1 » by Optms » Fri Jun 6, 2025 12:14 pm

Took the Champs to 6 games but fired their coach regardless.

It's Finals or bust now.
SA37
RealGM
Posts: 18,308
And1: 9,075
Joined: Sep 10, 2002
Location: Basking in the Glory
 

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#2 » by SA37 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 12:20 pm

Nothing?

The Knicks were built to beat Boston, and they got a bit of a hand with that when Tatum got injured. Tatum may not be healthy enough by the end of next season to help the Celtics, which would open another window for the Knicks. The Knicks need to add 2-3 players to give themselves some depth.

We'll have to see how the offseason plays out and where Durant ends up, if Giannis gets moved, if Cleveland, Orlando, and/or Detroit are able to improve their roster. Philadelphia should be healthier next year, which adds in another contender.
bstein14
RealGM
Posts: 32,675
And1: 9,523
Joined: Jun 22, 2001

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#3 » by bstein14 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 12:25 pm

Optms wrote:Took the Champs to 6 games but fired their coach regardless.

It's Finals or bust now.


I think its more about the players needing a new voice and Thibs isn't really a "player's coach" ... no one is really questioning whether or not he is a good coach he clearly is in the top half of coaches in the league the results speak for themselves.

But yeah, if the Pacers could beat OKC in 5 games it really would show just how close the Knicks were to a possible championship this season.... it feels like they would seem further away if Indy lost in 5 to OKC.
Godymas
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,489
And1: 4,313
Joined: Feb 27, 2016

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#4 » by Godymas » Fri Jun 6, 2025 12:25 pm

absolutely nothing

what does it say about OKC and the West?

what does it say about the Cleveland Cavaliers?

what does it say about the Milwaukee Bucks?
User avatar
Optms
RealGM
Posts: 23,444
And1: 19,731
Joined: Jun 11, 2009
 

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#5 » by Optms » Fri Jun 6, 2025 12:31 pm

Godymas wrote:absolutely nothing

what does it say about OKC and the West?

what does it say about the Cleveland Cavaliers?

what does it say about the Milwaukee Bucks?


None of those teams took the ECF Champs to 6 games though. OKC is down 0-1 at home.

Pacers in the driver's seat against another juggernaut.
User avatar
Calvin Klein
RealGM
Posts: 15,367
And1: 10,142
Joined: May 20, 2008
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Contact:
   

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#6 » by Calvin Klein » Fri Jun 6, 2025 12:53 pm

holy overreactions
knicksfan974
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,729
And1: 1,449
Joined: Mar 02, 2002
Location: Knicks fans Indian Ocean HQ
 

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#7 » by knicksfan974 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:01 pm

Says that the Knicks are right there with the top teams. Without the historic G1 collapse we would have been looking at a G7 in MSG, where everything would have been possible.
dhsilv2
RealGM
Posts: 49,207
And1: 26,538
Joined: Oct 04, 2015

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#8 » by dhsilv2 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:02 pm

They're a good team, do we need to go deeper?
doogie_hauser
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,881
And1: 7,016
Joined: Feb 04, 2024
         

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#9 » by doogie_hauser » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:05 pm

This may well have been the best/most opportune season for the Knicks to break their 50 plus year ring drought.

Mind you I don't think the Knicks had any chance of beating OKC in a 7 game series but still if the Pacers win the finals, it will haunt Knicks fans for years to come, the East (sans Boston) will be younger and stronger next season..

This year in hindsight was the best opportunity for the Knicks to win a chip since 1994 and they blew it
brutalitops
Head Coach
Posts: 6,292
And1: 8,038
Joined: Feb 20, 2014
Location: Perth, Australia
     

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#10 » by brutalitops » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:18 pm

Still at their natural ceiling with Thibs

You've traded Bridges who's an excellent secondary ball handler and has shown that in every chance he's got and not really utilized him enough, a lot went to letting Brunson run everything (Which all honesty, gets you very far) but didn't really have enough juice to get you to a position for the finals

They should of beaten Detroit easier, They absolutely smacked Boston (Even With Tatum going down, They had that game won and would of been up 3-1)

Plus it was clear he was at the end of his bag and throwing **** at the wall at the end, Delon Wright copped more DNP's during the season then actual games, by the end of it Thibs is using him for 10MPG,

I wouldn't of fired him unless you have someone better lined up, but I dont think it's crazy to let Thibs go
Ssj16
Starter
Posts: 2,018
And1: 2,301
Joined: Jun 29, 2021
 

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#11 » by Ssj16 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:27 pm

I said the same thing about Denver taking OKC to 7. To me, it could be quite possible that they were the second best team overall even though truthfully I don't see them beating OKC.

That being said, I'd they have a good coach lined up, firing Thibs was the right move. Thibs has a ceiling to his coaching style so it wasn't likely he would be the coach to lead NYC to the finals regardless.
User avatar
G_K_F
General Manager
Posts: 8,303
And1: 10,837
Joined: Dec 08, 2018
       

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#12 » by G_K_F » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:31 pm

doogie_hauser wrote:This may well have been the best/most opportune season for the Knicks to break their 50 plus year ring drought.

Mind you I don't think the Knicks had any chance of beating OKC in a 7 game series but still if the Pacers win the finals, it will haunt Knicks fans for years to come, the East (sans Boston) will be younger and stronger next season..

This year in hindsight was the best opportunity for the Knicks to win a chip since 1994 and they blew it

Who's getting stronger in the East next year? Detroit?
Thank you, Rick Brunson.
jkvonny
General Manager
Posts: 7,510
And1: 7,418
Joined: Jun 04, 2021
       

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#13 » by jkvonny » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:47 pm

Edit: No comment.
jkvonny
General Manager
Posts: 7,510
And1: 7,418
Joined: Jun 04, 2021
       

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#14 » by jkvonny » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:52 pm

G_K_F wrote:
doogie_hauser wrote:This may well have been the best/most opportune season for the Knicks to break their 50 plus year ring drought.

Mind you I don't think the Knicks had any chance of beating OKC in a 7 game series but still if the Pacers win the finals, it will haunt Knicks fans for years to come, the East (sans Boston) will be younger and stronger next season..

This year in hindsight was the best opportunity for the Knicks to win a chip since 1994 and they blew it

Who's getting stronger in the East next year? Detroit?

Detroit, Atlanta, Philly, Orlando if all healthy could be stronger next season.
slickrickstyles
Rookie
Posts: 1,207
And1: 455
Joined: May 16, 2007
Location: my heart resides in Indiana
 

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#15 » by slickrickstyles » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:56 pm

It says that the Pacers have their number historically in the playoffs. (Pacers have won last 4 playoff series since 2000)

https://www.landofbasketball.com/head_to_head_gl/knicks_vs_pacers_game_log_pl.htm#google_vignette
Once they have that golden shining moment and it comes to them in a dream or whatever and they understand that, that's when this team and this franchise will go to another level from where it was when I was here.

- Reggie Miller
User avatar
NO-KG-AI
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 43,853
And1: 19,547
Joined: Jul 19, 2005
Location: The city of witch doctors, and good ol' pickpockets

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#16 » by NO-KG-AI » Fri Jun 6, 2025 4:57 pm

The Knicks were viewed as like a top 3 east team and finished in the top 2. Idk why people are pretending it’s a disappointment. The players straight up got outplayed by the Pacers players. People can’t accept that the Pacers are super talent d for some reason
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
GiannisAnte34
Analyst
Posts: 3,286
And1: 2,654
Joined: Jun 19, 2019
 

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#17 » by GiannisAnte34 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:00 pm

It says the Knicks have work to do if they want to be the best
Karate Diop
General Manager
Posts: 9,270
And1: 11,158
Joined: May 19, 2017
 

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#18 » by Karate Diop » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:05 pm

Not much. Even the most diehard Knicks fans knew deep down that they weren't beating the Pacers after Game 1.

Just wasn't a good matchup for them, one team was collected, composed and gritty, the other had plenty of internal friction, didn't truly believe in themselves, and had their Top 2 guys consistently complaining to the referees at the first sight of adversity.
bkkrh
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,345
And1: 1,796
Joined: Apr 12, 2024
 

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#19 » by bkkrh » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:18 pm

jkvonny wrote:
G_K_F wrote:
doogie_hauser wrote:This may well have been the best/most opportune season for the Knicks to break their 50 plus year ring drought.

Mind you I don't think the Knicks had any chance of beating OKC in a 7 game series but still if the Pacers win the finals, it will haunt Knicks fans for years to come, the East (sans Boston) will be younger and stronger next season..

This year in hindsight was the best opportunity for the Knicks to win a chip since 1994 and they blew it

Who's getting stronger in the East next year? Detroit?

Detroit, Atlanta, Philly, Orlando if all healthy could be stronger next season.


Yeah and Lebron, Harden, Randle and Myles Turner could all decide to sign with us for the vet minimum in the offseason^^. There is a good chance that Detroit continues to develop, simultaneously there is a very good chance that Orlando doesn´t have that much bad luck with injuries next season as well. But there is definitely still a gap to contender for both atm. It isn´t unrealistic that they close it, but I would be surprised if they are clearly better than us.

But what makes you think Atlanta could be significantly better? Especially after just trading Hunter? Yes Daniels, Johnson and Okongwu might improve, but they are now a treadmill team for a few seasons, so I don´t really see how they drastically improve in one offseason.

But Philly has to be a troll :lol: . Unless they build a time travel machine and replace current Paul George with his 18-19 version and turn Embiid into RoboCop there is no way that Philly will be contending next year.
User avatar
Chuck Everett
RealGM
Posts: 19,022
And1: 21,628
Joined: May 28, 2004
Location: Los Angeles
   

Re: If Pacers win it all, what does it say about the Knicks? 

Post#20 » by Chuck Everett » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:21 pm

G_K_F wrote:
doogie_hauser wrote:This may well have been the best/most opportune season for the Knicks to break their 50 plus year ring drought.

Mind you I don't think the Knicks had any chance of beating OKC in a 7 game series but still if the Pacers win the finals, it will haunt Knicks fans for years to come, the East (sans Boston) will be younger and stronger next season..

This year in hindsight was the best opportunity for the Knicks to win a chip since 1994 and they blew it

Who's getting stronger in the East next year? Detroit?


Detroit and Orlando will be better next season (provided they come into the playoffs healthy). Atlanta is a TBD.
"Kill 'em with Grindness."

Return to The General Board