Bears 12.0

[molepharmer]

B Johnson in today's presser mentioned four players that had stood out to him....
on defense - Dom Robinson and R Hyppollite
on offense - Joel Wilson (TE) and K Monangai

[Dresden]

For the 4th year in a row now - if the offense fails this season it won't be because the QB lacks talent but rather the OL was incapable of holding a pocket.

Thinking of moving off of Caleb ALREADY is hilarious and asinine. Do you guys follow the sport?

What do you think about someone who misconstrues what is said, converts it to something totally different, then mocks and insults people based on their own strawman interpretations?

Thid whole page is about thinking about pivoting from Caleb, the last few pages were about the merits ofTyson Bagent potentially being a starter quality NFL QB.

Where's the misconstruing? Caleb won't go before Poles is fired unless he pulls some DeShaun Watson sort of stuff.

It's not really about pivoting from Caleb- it's about a hypothetical that if he can't beat out an UDFA in Bagent or a career journeyman who was about to retire in Keenum, then he doesn't really deserve to just be handed the starting job because he was the #1 pick.

[Dresden]

B Johnson in today's presser mentioned four players that had stood out to him....
on defense - Dom Robinson and R Hyppollite
on offense - Joel Wilson (TE) and K Monangai

I think Johnson is going to have an open mind about who he plays= he has no allegiance to anyone, and will play the guys he sees performing the best.

[Hold That]

The goal is to win a title, and to position yourself to do so. That probably isn't going to happen this year, so the goal is to do whatever you need to this year that positions you to do it as soon as possible. That likely involves developing Caleb, but at some point this year, it isn't insane to think it also means realizing Caleb isn't the guy if he can't hit some milestones.

I agree. The only thing Caleb has secured in his tenure is to be starter in 2025.

If he fails this year I would not be upset if the Bears ultimately want to pivot. Especially if Johnson proves to be a viable coach and Caleb is simply just not getting it.

For the 4th year in a row now - if the offense fails this season it won't be because the QB lacks talent but rather the OL was incapable of holding a pocket.

Thinking of moving off of Caleb ALREADY is hilarious and asinine. Do you guys follow the sport?

To automatically pin Caleb’s future problems on the Oline as if he’s a proven commodity already and his failures can’t be because of his own doing is asinine.

What I’m saying is if Caleb bombs with a offensive guru as coach, one of the best WR and TE rooms in the NFL, I would not be mad if we pivoted off of him after just 2 years. Obviously I don’t hope it to be this way, but we aren’t married to Caleb just yet and don’t have to be.

This team can easily pivot to a veteran QB in free agency or trade and can likely win 10+ games with this current roster. Obviously it’s not as sexy as grooming your own QB from the draft, but regardless we don’t have to commit 4 years when we likely will know after year 2.

[dice]

https://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4712267/with-bears-losing-streak-at-12-focus-is-on-justin-fields-lack-of-progress

https://www.dabearsblog.com/2024/all-kinds-of-time-caleb-williams-justin-fields-time-to-throw

https://sites.bu.edu/wtbu/2023/10/17/the-break-out-justin-fields-is-running-out-of-chances/

https://jetsxfactor.com/2025/02/19/ny-jets-justin-fields-starting-qb-material/

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[fleet]

B Johnson in today's presser mentioned four players that had stood out to him....
on defense - Dom Robinson and R Hyppollite
on offense - Joel Wilson (TE) and K Monangai

Ben Johnson has been realizing which players are motivated by praise, and vice versa. This is making me think DRob will make the team. And he fits as a type better with DA than Booker does. DRob allegedly had a better pass rush win rate last year than Montez Sweat in a micro sample size . I read that someone in the league felt that Sweat may have quit instead of the idea he was carrying an injury however.

[TheJordanRule]

https://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4712267/with-bears-losing-streak-at-12-focus-is-on-justin-fields-lack-of-progress

https://www.dabearsblog.com/2024/all-kinds-of-time-caleb-williams-justin-fields-time-to-throw

https://sites.bu.edu/wtbu/2023/10/17/the-break-out-justin-fields-is-running-out-of-chances/

https://jetsxfactor.com/2025/02/19/ny-jets-justin-fields-starting-qb-material/

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I feel bad for Justin. This kid has a lot of heart. I remember watching him gut it out with that historically bad OL and wondering whether we would watch him die out there, live in real time. That rookie season was a freakin doozy! I hope he can figure it out at this level because he was a God tier player college football. But if he can’t, NFL fan bases should cut him a break. From what I remember, he had a good work ethic and was one of our genuine leaders in the locker room. QB is the hardest position to play in football. Despite his excellence in college, he never had to demonstrate fast processing ability the way he has to at the NFL level. That’s a very difficult skill to start developing at this stage of the game. He shredded college defenses because of his explosive speed and RB mentality. That is the Lamar Jackson cheat code, and there’s probably a Ravens-like NFL playbook out there that could maximize his advantages. But to expect him to think like a starting NFL QB now, when he’s never had to, is putting him behind the 8 ball. Justin would have been better off staying in college for 3 more years and actually building up his QB processing skills, but what good is hindsight at the end of the day?

[fleet]

https://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4712267/with-bears-losing-streak-at-12-focus-is-on-justin-fields-lack-of-progress

https://www.dabearsblog.com/2024/all-kinds-of-time-caleb-williams-justin-fields-time-to-throw

https://sites.bu.edu/wtbu/2023/10/17/the-break-out-justin-fields-is-running-out-of-chances/

https://jetsxfactor.com/2025/02/19/ny-jets-justin-fields-starting-qb-material/

Watch on YouTube

Jury is still out on Caleb. We will see fairly soon if he’s developed fixable bad habits, or he has a real problem going on. I don’t sense that there’s a hardcore support base to establish extended excuse-making for Caleb like there was for Justin. Justin had like his own religious sect. Ben Johnson won’t leave Caleb much cover if he fails.

[Susan]

https://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4712267/with-bears-losing-streak-at-12-focus-is-on-justin-fields-lack-of-progress

https://www.dabearsblog.com/2024/all-kinds-of-time-caleb-williams-justin-fields-time-to-throw

https://sites.bu.edu/wtbu/2023/10/17/the-break-out-justin-fields-is-running-out-of-chances/

https://jetsxfactor.com/2025/02/19/ny-jets-justin-fields-starting-qb-material/

Watch on YouTube

Jury is still out on Caleb. We will see fairly soon if he’s developed fixable bad habits, or he has a real problem going on. I don’t sense that there’s a hardcore support base to establish extended excuse-making for Caleb like there was for Justin. Justin had like his own religious sect. Ben Johnson won’t leave Caleb much cover if he fails.

You claimed Trevor Simeon was going to run the offense better than Fields - a true all time banger.

The reality is - the Bears failed both Justin and Caleb with the OL and coaching staff they they surrounded each guy with. We'll see if this OL can stay healthy and how Caleb plays then but Fields is going to have a plus OL and the best running game he's ever had in his career and it's my expectation that the Jets are going to exceed expectations this year.

If the OL is once again a game of musical chairs and not a cohesive unit - Caleb will struggle and there will be "excuses" for him.

[Susan]

https://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4712267/with-bears-losing-streak-at-12-focus-is-on-justin-fields-lack-of-progress

https://www.dabearsblog.com/2024/all-kinds-of-time-caleb-williams-justin-fields-time-to-throw

https://sites.bu.edu/wtbu/2023/10/17/the-break-out-justin-fields-is-running-out-of-chances/

https://jetsxfactor.com/2025/02/19/ny-jets-justin-fields-starting-qb-material/

Watch on YouTube

https://youtu.be/6LcbNNOfZnU?si=Qfmj04VjZxc8mvaa

https://youtu.be/GbBd1RRL_mc?si=ChqaiTIIGLZCQXwh

If you look hard enough in sports media you can find a handful of articles to support whatever agenda you want.

Here's two good videos explaining the importance of the OL and the new school of QB play that goes a little bit in depth on Caleb/Justin's struggles and how they're systemic.

https://youtu.be/N3n4O-8SZYU?si=VYnEZ12jJQAxDYRk

https://youtu.be/61mfJgQaLQ8?si=NI3anefszJJ_ITK4

[Chi town]

Folks in here questioning Caleb is crazy.

Sit back and watch Ben let him cook.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

It will be 2035 and people will still try and argue that Fields is a good NFL QB.

[Susan]

It will be 2035 and people will still try and argue that Fields is a good NFL QB.

It'll be 2035 and the Chicago Bears will be on their 6th first round QB in a row with some combo of lame duck HC/GM and a bad OL and people will still be putting it on the QB.

Were you surprised that Sam Darnold had a breakout season last year?

[fleet]

Folks in here questioning Caleb is crazy.

Sit back and watch Ben let him cook.

I suspect he’s going to put up points when he gets into a stable system. Ben is going to make him run the offense as designed. And that’s the friction point, and we will see if Ben has enough gravitas to actually ask a quarterback in Chicago to run offense without being accused of foolishly trying to change what the QB is good at. I love that one.

[fleet]

It will be 2035 and people will still try and argue that Fields is a good NFL QB.

A true coach killer that guy. Glad for Mike Tomlin that he was smart enough to let someone else try and pull the sword out of the rock. Hey, maybe he is capable of being better.

[fleet]

https://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4712267/with-bears-losing-streak-at-12-focus-is-on-justin-fields-lack-of-progress

https://www.dabearsblog.com/2024/all-kinds-of-time-caleb-williams-justin-fields-time-to-throw

https://sites.bu.edu/wtbu/2023/10/17/the-break-out-justin-fields-is-running-out-of-chances/

https://jetsxfactor.com/2025/02/19/ny-jets-justin-fields-starting-qb-material/

Watch on YouTube

Jury is still out on Caleb. We will see fairly soon if he’s developed fixable bad habits, or he has a real problem going on. I don’t sense that there’s a hardcore support base to establish extended excuse-making for Caleb like there was for Justin. Justin had like his own religious sect. Ben Johnson won’t leave Caleb much cover if he fails.

You claimed Trevor Simeon was going to run the offense better than Fields - a true all time banger.

The reality is - the Bears failed both Justin and Caleb with the OL and coaching staff they they surrounded each guy with. We'll see if this OL can stay healthy and how Caleb plays then but Fields is going to have a plus OL and the best running game he's ever had in his career and it's my expectation that the Jets are going to exceed expectations this year.

If the OL is once again a game of musical chairs and not a cohesive unit - Caleb will struggle and there will be "excuses" for him.

Well, I don’t remember what I said, but Simeon probably did run it better even though he’s not good, and suitable for insurance sales and practice squads. Sorry that you’re hanging onto this stuff for so long to bring it up unprompted. How’s the “Franchise quarterback” as you called him…Mitch Trubisky, and your favorite GM Ryan Pace doing. Paid rather well at least they are.

Yes, the Bears are failures. But don’t get it twisted. Players are responsible for the outcomes of their own careers.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

It will be 2035 and people will still try and argue that Fields is a good NFL QB.

It'll be 2035 and the Chicago Bears will be on their 6th first round QB in a row with some combo of lame duck HC/GM and a bad OL and people will still be putting it on the QB.

Were you surprised that Sam Darnold had a breakout season last year?

Did Fields play somewhere else and get benched? I thought that happened?

Guys can turn it around and breakout, AND THEN we should call them good. When they’re good. That’s how it works.

[MAQ]

It will be 2035 and people will still try and argue that Fields is a good NFL QB.

It'll be 2035 and the Chicago Bears will be on their 6th first round QB in a row with some combo of lame duck HC/GM and a bad OL and people will still be putting it on the QB.

Were you surprised that Sam Darnold had a breakout season last year?

Did Fields play somewhere else and get benched? I thought that happened?

Guys can turn it around and breakout, AND THEN we should call them good. When they’re good. That’s how it works.

Can you be benched if the job was never yours?

Was Bagent benched 2 years ago?

[fleet]

Dom Rob runs with the ones, and Dayo, not so much

https://www.chicitysports.com/dayo-odeyingbo-bad-camp-chicago-bears-news

[Susan]

It will be 2035 and people will still try and argue that Fields is a good NFL QB.

It'll be 2035 and the Chicago Bears will be on their 6th first round QB in a row with some combo of lame duck HC/GM and a bad OL and people will still be putting it on the QB.

Were you surprised that Sam Darnold had a breakout season last year?

Did Fields play somewhere else and get benched? I thought that happened?

Guys can turn it around and breakout, AND THEN we should call them good. When they’re good. That’s how it works.

Russ was promised the job in order to get him to come to Pittsburgh, when he returned Fields got benched after going 4-2 and when it came to FA - the Steelers wanted him and he chose the Jets who made him their first choice.

He's 8-4 in his last 12, his advanced passing stats were good last year, he's got a lot of talent along the OL for the first time of his career and he stresses a defense with the running game in a rare way. If you care about straight passing yards, he's not it but he's a better QB than what this fanbase wants to admit.

Here's Schefter talking about how Fields and Stafford were the preferred choice over Rodgers for the Steelers this off-season. He picked the Jets.

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