2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1
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- 3ammy3uck3ts
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I’m assuming KAT, 1 or both of Mikal/OG then idk what.
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
KEl'el's frame should easily put on weight, but we'll see how he develops. If he gets some tree trunks, the rim deterrence could be crazy, running in to a brick wall.
I will always back having rim protection, and it frees up Bam to do what he does.
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Going to throw their biggest names and take back Lillard and Giannis?
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Hallstar wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
KEl'el's frame should easily put on weight, but we'll see how he develops. If he gets some tree trunks, the rim deterrence could be crazy, running in to a brick wall.
I will always back having rim protection, and it frees up Bam to do what he does.
I really hope he can play at game speed on defense. He makes Bam better. Bam makes him better. Its a quality combo. Synergistic skill sets.
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DayofMourning wrote:
Going to throw their biggest names and take back Lillard and Giannis?
Taking Dames contract might be a way to entice the bucks, that’s alot of money. We have more dead weight on the roster than that though unfortunately
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Looking at the league, our situation and the options out there - I've got to keep it real :
We're down bad. We have no good options. We put ourselves in a very bad spot.
1) No moves = boring = depressing - but also the quickest way to start digging out from the hole.
2) Make a desperate move for KD - at least creats some buzz - but quickly becomes a even deeper hole we'll need to climb out of - and with fewer assets
3) Making lateral moves just to try to create better chemistry and get the stink out of our court won't really change our destiny but this is the rare case that a change for the sake of change is desperately needed - even if we'll still suck.
Bottom line - tank the year, regroup, recoup, rebuild. Will be more fun winning 23 game with Larsson Ware and #20 then winning 32 games with Wiggins, Duncan and Bam killing himself out there.
We're down bad. We have no good options. We put ourselves in a very bad spot.
1) No moves = boring = depressing - but also the quickest way to start digging out from the hole.
2) Make a desperate move for KD - at least creats some buzz - but quickly becomes a even deeper hole we'll need to climb out of - and with fewer assets
3) Making lateral moves just to try to create better chemistry and get the stink out of our court won't really change our destiny but this is the rare case that a change for the sake of change is desperately needed - even if we'll still suck.
Bottom line - tank the year, regroup, recoup, rebuild. Will be more fun winning 23 game with Larsson Ware and #20 then winning 32 games with Wiggins, Duncan and Bam killing himself out there.
Chalm Downs wrote:his nickname is boywonder ffs
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RexBoyWonder wrote:Looking at the league, our situation and the options out there - I've got to keep it real :
We're down bad. We have no good options. We put ourselves in a very bad spot.
1) No moves = boring = depressing - but also the quickest way to start digging out from the hole.
2) Make a desperate move for KD - at least creats some buzz - but quickly becomes a even deeper hole we'll need to climb out of - and with fewer assets
3) Making lateral moves just to try to create better chemistry and get the stink out of our court won't really change our destiny but this is the rare case that a change for the sake of change is desperately needed - even if we'll still suck.
Bottom line - tank the year, regroup, recoup, rebuild. Will be more fun winning 23 game with Larsson Ware and #20 then winning 32 games with Wiggins, Duncan and Bam killing himself out there.
I don't know what they are going to do, but I do know for sure they aren't going to intentionally tank the year. Bam is getting paid a good amount of money, he and the other guys playing on big contracts are going to go out there and do what they're paid to do. I'm not trying to rain on the parade but the bold is not keeping it real, you and everybody here knows thats not what they are going to do so why keep beating on this drum?
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RexBoyWonder wrote:Looking at the league, our situation and the options out there - I've got to keep it real :
We're down bad. We have no good options. We put ourselves in a very bad spot.
1) No moves = boring = depressing - but also the quickest way to start digging out from the hole.
2) Make a desperate move for KD - at least creats some buzz - but quickly becomes a even deeper hole we'll need to climb out of - and with fewer assets
3) Making lateral moves just to try to create better chemistry and get the stink out of our court won't really change our destiny but this is the rare case that a change for the sake of change is desperately needed - even if we'll still suck.
Bottom line - tank the year, regroup, recoup, rebuild. Will be more fun winning 23 game with Larsson Ware and #20 then winning 32 games with Wiggins, Duncan and Bam killing himself out there.
Down bad aka in comparable position to the majority of the NBA
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Miami will make a move it might not please everybody but I can tell you for sure the last thing they will do is tank with the East this open. I’d anticipate this KD move.
I also happen to be in the line of thinking that this Miami team as it’s currently constructed isn’t as bad as people would think. Just dealt with the death blow of Jimmy trying to tank the team.
There are things to like about what they have and reasons for optimism
I would contest that if Miami could add KD without giving up Bam or Herro not only are they players in the East but likely the favorites. That’s a core group of guys that you have to see with the best coach in the league. This Heat team is solid just struggles closing because we got 1 dude who can put the ball in the hole, and he gets hyper focused.
I also happen to be in the line of thinking that this Miami team as it’s currently constructed isn’t as bad as people would think. Just dealt with the death blow of Jimmy trying to tank the team.
There are things to like about what they have and reasons for optimism
I would contest that if Miami could add KD without giving up Bam or Herro not only are they players in the East but likely the favorites. That’s a core group of guys that you have to see with the best coach in the league. This Heat team is solid just struggles closing because we got 1 dude who can put the ball in the hole, and he gets hyper focused.
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greg4012 wrote:RexBoyWonder wrote:Looking at the league, our situation and the options out there - I've got to keep it real :
We're down bad. We have no good options. We put ourselves in a very bad spot.
1) No moves = boring = depressing - but also the quickest way to start digging out from the hole.
2) Make a desperate move for KD - at least creats some buzz - but quickly becomes a even deeper hole we'll need to climb out of - and with fewer assets
3) Making lateral moves just to try to create better chemistry and get the stink out of our court won't really change our destiny but this is the rare case that a change for the sake of change is desperately needed - even if we'll still suck.
Bottom line - tank the year, regroup, recoup, rebuild. Will be more fun winning 23 game with Larsson Ware and #20 then winning 32 games with Wiggins, Duncan and Bam killing himself out there.
Down bad aka in comparable position to the majority of the NBA
This Miami doomer stuff is so overblown and spoiled behavior. We are not that far away
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:HeatFanLifer wrote:Honestly, I think this offseason will be a very boring one for the Heat. The only thing I will be looking at is who they draft and what undrafted talent they sign for summer league.
Rozier, JJJ, and few 2nd rd picks for CJ McCollum
Wiggins for Bogdan Bogdonovic, Derrick Jones Jr, and few 2nd rd picks
New Additions
PG/SG CJ McCollum (2026 expiring)
SG/SF Bogdan Bogdonovic (2026 Team option)
SF/PF Derrick Jones Jr (2 years 10 mil per)
2025 1st rd pick and possible 51st pick from Clippers

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HeatFanLifer wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:HeatFanLifer wrote:Honestly, I think this offseason will be a very boring one for the Heat. The only thing I will be looking at is who they draft and what undrafted talent they sign for summer league.
Rozier, JJJ, and few 2nd rd picks for CJ McCollum
Wiggins for Bogdan Bogdonovic, Derrick Jones Jr, and few 2nd rd picks
New Additions
PG/SG CJ McCollum (2026 expiring)
SG/SF Bogdan Bogdonovic (2026 Team option)
SF/PF Derrick Jones Jr (2 years 10 mil per)
2025 1st rd pick and possible 51st pick from Clippers
Sleepy boring Pat for the win

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Shoulda traded him for some first round picks after outlier year 1;)
Wild how the Heat thought they had pulled a fast one by signing Duncan to that deal. Little did they know the rest of the league would catch up super fast. Their asset was depressed as soon as the contract was signed.
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DayofMourning wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Shoulda traded him for some first round picks after outlier year 1;)
Wild how the Heat thought they had pulled a fast one by signing Duncan to that deal. Little did they know the rest of the league would catch up super fast. Their asset was depressed as soon as the contract was signed.
Signs of Duncan falling off the year prior to signing that extension were there. Kept hearing they signed him to use for trade. Good majority of that contract was filled with yips and slumps. He had a tantalizing effect on some in the fan base that defend him till this day tooth and nail. “Duncan Hive” hahahaha. He recovered to have a few good playoff moments but it’s really time we move on. Unfortunately we still have Haywood Highsmith to get rid of. He’s the modern day version of our Rodney McGruder.
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Signs of Duncan falling off the year prior to signing that extension were there. Kept hearing they signed him to use for trade. Good majority of that contract was filled with yips and slumps. He had a tantalizing effect on some in the fan base that defend him till this day tooth and nail. “Duncan Hive” hahahaha. He recovered to have a few good playoff moments but it’s really time we move on. Unfortunately we still have Haywood Highsmith to get rid of. He’s the modern day version of our Rodney McGruder.
At one point Duncan was in rarified air with his shooting. But as soon as he came back to earth, the league had guys popping up everywhere who could match his shooting at a portion of his price.
Reminds me of my first house. Bought that sucker to flip and the market crashed hard. Couldnt move it when I really needed to.
The timing on both were just bad. Duncans contract became negative value super quick.
Will love to finally get out from under it.
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Unpopular opinion, I think the Knicks would be dumb to trade KAT + OG + Bridges for Giannis + filler back. You're already a mid 50s win team and were only 2 games away from the finals. You have a relatively young roster (every major piece is under the age of 30). Trading away all of wing depth and KAT would do them more harm than good, imo.
They need to 'retool'. Pacers lost in the ECF last year and they didn't trade away their core (who are all under the age of 30). Depth matters.
Giannis can't shoot (still) and he honestly won't be an amazing fit with Brunson.
They need to 'retool'. Pacers lost in the ECF last year and they didn't trade away their core (who are all under the age of 30). Depth matters.
Giannis can't shoot (still) and he honestly won't be an amazing fit with Brunson.
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carnageta wrote:Unpopular opinion, I think the Knicks would be dumb to trade KAT + OG + Bridges for Giannis + filler back. You're already a mid 50s win team and were only 2 games away from the finals. You have a relatively young roster (every major piece is under the age of 30). Trading away all of wing depth and KAT would do them more harm than good, imo.
They need to 'retool'. Pacers lost in the ECF last year and they didn't trade away their core (who are all under the age of 30). Depth matters.
Giannis can't shoot (still) and he honestly won't be an amazing fit with Brunson.
This puts Beenie's "get your stars and worry about everything else after" theory to the test.
Given their commitments to Brunson, KAT, and OG, I wouldn't want any part of extending Bridges. I imagine they'll move him this summer.
Agree that depth matters but I'm not sold on the Knicks core..those pups in Detroit probably win in the first round with a little more experience.
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Duncan, Rozier, and Highsmith to Phoenix
Beal, 25 FRP and 27 FRP to Mia
Beal, 25 FRP and 27 FRP to Mia










