We may be 3 wins away from an OKC Dynasty

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Would next season's possible pairing of Giannis + SGA be a better duo than Prime Shaq and Kobe?

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Re: We may be 3 wins away from an OKC Dynasty 

Post#21 » by UcanUwill » Fri Jun 6, 2025 8:51 am

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SpreeS wrote:I like SGA a lot, but he isnt PG. Just SG with ball in his hand. They play like Tatum/BOS. If these teams would play against equal talent with normal PG, they would lose b/c of stagnant offence.


the fact that they had 20 turnovers in one half and were only up 10 is pathetic, if SGA was an all time great level player they would have been up by 30 at the half and game would have been over


SGA put 38 points on nearly 50% shooting, and hot take artists are blaming SGA on a loss. How about the fact team got outrebound 39 to 56 and OKC coach literally closed the game with zero bigmen, which allowed Pacers grad 3 crucial offensive rebounds in the last 65 seconds of the game..?
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Post#22 » by BruttoNostra » Fri Jun 6, 2025 11:35 am

UcanUwill wrote:
ball_takes23 wrote:
SpreeS wrote:I like SGA a lot, but he isnt PG. Just SG with ball in his hand. They play like Tatum/BOS. If these teams would play against equal talent with normal PG, they would lose b/c of stagnant offence.


the fact that they had 20 turnovers in one half and were only up 10 is pathetic, if SGA was an all time great level player they would have been up by 30 at the half and game would have been over


SGA put 38 points on nearly 50% shooting, and hot take artists are blaming SGA on a loss. How about the fact team got outrebound 39 to 56 and OKC coach literally closed the game with zero bigmen, which allowed Pacers grad 3 crucial offensive rebounds in the last 65 seconds of the game..?

SGA got his stats, but he wasn't making his teammates better, he wasn't setting them for easy shots. It's where all those "where do you place SGA all-time" hyperboles and threads should stop. The guy isn't a leader, at least yet.
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Post#23 » by WestbrookGOATed » Fri Jun 6, 2025 11:43 am

Marvin Martian wrote:Why would Giannis want to play in OKC after seeing how they are treating Chet?
How exactly is Chet being treated?
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Post#24 » by ball_takes23 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 12:44 pm

BruttoNostra wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
ball_takes23 wrote:
the fact that they had 20 turnovers in one half and were only up 10 is pathetic, if SGA was an all time great level player they would have been up by 30 at the half and game would have been over


SGA put 38 points on nearly 50% shooting, and hot take artists are blaming SGA on a loss. How about the fact team got outrebound 39 to 56 and OKC coach literally closed the game with zero bigmen, which allowed Pacers grad 3 crucial offensive rebounds in the last 65 seconds of the game..?

SGA got his stats, but he wasn't making his teammates better, he wasn't setting them for easy shots. It's where all those "where do you place SGA all-time" hyperboles and threads should stop. The guy isn't a leader, at least yet.


Exactly. People are blaming Chet for playing bad and only making 2 field goals, how is he supposed to do anything when his “point guard” is taking 30 shots and doing absolutely nothing to make him better?
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Post#25 » by Saints14 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 12:51 pm

I'd be very surprised if the Thunder made any drastic moves even if they lose this series. A Giannis trade would wreck their cap sheet and while they might be slightly better over the next few years (no guarantee of that! And no guarantee that Giannis will be healthy when it matters) it would ruin their plan of being dominant for the next 5-10 seasons
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Post#26 » by Pattycakes » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:09 pm

If y’all keep using the words Thunder and dynasty together I’m gonna start booing them every game now. Y’all are truly getting obnoxious. Win something first or STFU

Period. Doesn’t matter how many of you post it on realgm, it actually is meaningless without any evidence to show it. You know how many teams claimed dynasty’s and end up falling on their faces? I’ll let y’all reflect on your own low iq behavior

Dude you were just asking if there are any mods in this cesspool we call RGM.

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Post#27 » by Stan » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:24 pm

The 2nd poster to completely overreact and make this weird thread topic.
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Post#28 » by UcanUwill » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:26 pm

BruttoNostra wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
ball_takes23 wrote:
the fact that they had 20 turnovers in one half and were only up 10 is pathetic, if SGA was an all time great level player they would have been up by 30 at the half and game would have been over


SGA put 38 points on nearly 50% shooting, and hot take artists are blaming SGA on a loss. How about the fact team got outrebound 39 to 56 and OKC coach literally closed the game with zero bigmen, which allowed Pacers grad 3 crucial offensive rebounds in the last 65 seconds of the game..?

SGA got his stats, but he wasn't making his teammates better, he wasn't setting them for easy shots. It's where all those "where do you place SGA all-time" hyperboles and threads should stop. The guy isn't a leader, at least yet.


Come on Brutto, he lead them to 80 wins this season, and they are still favorites to win championship. He has had one of the best guards seasons in a crazy long time. They are in NBA finals, there is no easy buckets anymore, Pacers were well prepared at limiting their points off turnovers, and they won rebounding battle. Let see how OKC responds to this shocker, but to say SGA is not a leader is stupid. Dude is leading best team in the NBA, a lot of defensive players and young guys.
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Post#29 » by shi-woo » Fri Jun 6, 2025 1:39 pm

I don't understand the OKC Giannis theories. At this point most people are aware that the "treasure trove"" of picks isn't really all that, and it would probably take both Chet and JDub to get it done.

Giannis is not going to OKC for IHart, JDub, and Wallace. That offer is really mediocre, given they get no salary relief, have to pay all 3 guys, and with Dame being injured and next year a wash, you can't really expect to get value out of Hartenstein. This type of trade would essentially just be Giannis for JDub, a 20-5-5 solid 3rd option...

Atleast the trade to the Cavs for Mobley you know you are getting a prospect you can build around, Williams has yet to show anything remotely close to that. Chet would have to be in the trade, and he too has yet to show that, has major injury concerns, and again will be getting paid.

OKC imo would need to throw both these dudes in a trade for Giannis, even if it's an overpay, they just have nothing for MIL who want cap relief, their picks back, and young cost controlled prospects. They literally get none of that in this trade.

Dame tore his damn Achilles in the playoffs and people are suggesting these win now trades that literally do nothing but hand a Top 4 player in the league to their favorite team for pennies on the dollar. That's not happening, even if Giannis demands it.
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Post#30 » by jbk1234 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 3:04 pm

SGA and Giannis are an awful pairing. I think Presti knows that.
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Post#31 » by Lalouie » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:02 pm

bucks and mavs trade coaches,,,, giannis stays
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Post#32 » by PistolPeteJR » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:09 pm

Marvin Martian wrote:Why would Giannis want to play in OKC after seeing how they are treating Chet?


...because Giannis is better?
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Post#33 » by OleSchool » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:24 pm

fanofthegreats wrote:Prime Shaq and Kobe wipe the floor with sga and Giannis


I would hope so, when Shaq and Kobe were in their primes SGA and Giannis were 5? :D
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NYSixersFan wrote:I'D BE more then happy to debate you or anyone else on specifics


NYSixersFan wrote:How can I give you specifics? I'm not talking to other GM's
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Post#34 » by facothomas22 » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:29 pm

If the Thunder have real chance to pair SGA with Giannis, they will whether if they win or lose the finals. The team that Winning a Championship doesn't always mean that team will stay pat, especially if that move that's available to them could make the difference between being a dynasty and their Championship being more of a one off. Also prime Shaq>>>Giannis and prime Kobe>>>>>SGA.
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Post#35 » by Optms » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:33 pm

Imagine the so called deepest, most talented team, best defensive team in history (By RealGM's criteria) getting beat by an afterthought 4th seed with only one borderline top 10 player. Pacers aren't even deep. Or top heavy. Just average, really.

And then after losing, OKC's coughs up the warchest to create a real super team by getting back Giannis, therefor winning multiple rings. It would kill the latest media and fan narrative that superteams are dead. And that Superteam wouldn't even be in a large market. The arms race would be on. All because of Haliburton. God, I love this game.
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Post#36 » by flow » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:38 pm

Lalouie wrote:bucks and mavs trade coaches,,,, giannis stays


Huh?
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Post#37 » by flow » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:47 pm

Optms wrote:Imagine the so called deepest, most talented team, best defensive team in history (By RealGM's criteria) getting beat by an afterthought 4th seed with only one borderline top 10 player. Pacers aren't even deep. Or top heavy. Just average, really.

And then after losing, OKC's coughs up the warchest to create a real super team by getting back Giannis, therefor winning multiple rings. It would kill the latest media and fan narrative that superteams are dead. And that Superteam wouldn't even be in a large market. The arms race would be on. All because of Haliburton. God, I love this game.


The Pacers are definitely deep. And they play to their depth.
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Post#38 » by BruttoNostra » Fri Jun 6, 2025 6:16 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
BruttoNostra wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
SGA put 38 points on nearly 50% shooting, and hot take artists are blaming SGA on a loss. How about the fact team got outrebound 39 to 56 and OKC coach literally closed the game with zero bigmen, which allowed Pacers grad 3 crucial offensive rebounds in the last 65 seconds of the game..?

SGA got his stats, but he wasn't making his teammates better, he wasn't setting them for easy shots. It's where all those "where do you place SGA all-time" hyperboles and threads should stop. The guy isn't a leader, at least yet.


Come on Brutto, he lead them to 80 wins this season, and they are still favorites to win championship. He has had one of the best guards seasons in a crazy long time. They are in NBA finals, there is no easy buckets anymore, Pacers were well prepared at limiting their points off turnovers, and they won rebounding battle. Let see how OKC responds to this shocker, but to say SGA is not a leader is stupid. Dude is leading best team in the NBA, a lot of defensive players and young guys.

Best player <> leader.
Yes, ATG regular season. He deserves that MVP, it's fine. But the team doesn't struggle on the offense with him on the bench (eye test from a ~10-11 Thunder playoff games sample size - while per nba.com, though his offensive on/off is slightly positive, there are still 5 other rotation players with a better diff in 2025 postseason).
Yes, he scores a lot and efficiently, not arguing about it, but court leadership? The only times he talks on the court is when he complains about not getting a foul (and surprisingly he does it a lot).
Any minute Caruso is on the court, he is the ultimate leader of that team (and of course he is a much lesser player).
What about feeding his teammates?
Give Chet to Luka and it's a lob-fest all the night, I mean even people who call him Donutcic will agree with that.
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Post#39 » by Optms » Fri Jun 6, 2025 7:00 pm

flow wrote:
Optms wrote:Imagine the so called deepest, most talented team, best defensive team in history (By RealGM's criteria) getting beat by an afterthought 4th seed with only one borderline top 10 player. Pacers aren't even deep. Or top heavy. Just average, really.

And then after losing, OKC's coughs up the warchest to create a real super team by getting back Giannis, therefor winning multiple rings. It would kill the latest media and fan narrative that superteams are dead. And that Superteam wouldn't even be in a large market. The arms race would be on. All because of Haliburton. God, I love this game.


The Pacers are definitely deep. And they play to their depth.


Are they? They don't even rank in the top 5 benches this year. They aren't terribly lacking depth but where is the depth compared to other teams?

1. Celtics
2. OKC
3. Cavs
4. Rockets
5. Grizz

Talent wise they are essentially on par with the Clippers.
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Post#40 » by Rainwater » Fri Jun 6, 2025 7:06 pm

Knicks365247 wrote:That's right, 3 wins and *not* 4.

If OKC loses the Finals, they're going to go after Giannis HARD and then, health permitting, win the next 3 championships virtually guaranteed.

JDub/Hartenstein/Isaiah Joe + Whatever picks to get it done
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Giannis

Then use some assets to acquire another big man (preferably a stretch 5).

Giannis + SGA might even be a better duo than Prime Shaq and Kobe.

The rest of the league is probably praying OKC can win this series....


Unless Chet and JDub are part of the deal, I don’t see bucks doing it.

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