Free Agent, Trade, Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 con't

[FlatearthZorro]

Jaylen and White are my current fav C's players. When Jaylen is healthy and the moment is there he will take it(he averaged ~30 against the comeback kids and bullied nearly everybody who guarded him).
Same goes for White. White represents everything a Celtic should be and he deserves at least 1 more title. I hope it will happen, but I fear Joe will waste it all as he has the past 2 out of 3 years coaching the best NBA team. It's an emberrassment.

2023 was a different Celtics team and the Cs were not the best team that season.

Brown averaged ~30 against the Pacers... That's what I was talking about..

[FlatearthZorro]

Hire Jenkins, trade KP and Jrue for whatever could save you money. Be competitive, look towards next season.

[Shak_Celts]

Hire Jenkins, trade KP and Jrue for whatever could save you money. Be competitive, look towards next season.

I’m not saying we should keep Joe, not saying he can do no wrong, I’m not even saying he’s great (I think he’s good), but I hope if he’s replaced we win all the chips. I guarantee the same people calling for his head won’t have anything to say if the new coach doesn't win either.

I remember that Brad, without a finals appearance or chip, is the genius coach while Ime (before the scandal) wasn’t a good coach. People are still claiming he isn’t a good coach on this forum til this day! Baffling.

[Fierce1]

Hire Jenkins, trade KP and Jrue for whatever could save you money. Be competitive, look towards next season.

Cs will most likely trade Jrue and at some point, KP, but I doubt the Cs will make a coaching change.

Whether you like Joe or not, Brad and the Cs will go with continuity.

What's realistic is Joe has to tweak the system.

Being more disciplined and efficient on offense will bring the Cs back to the Finals.

[celtxman]

People keep using phrases like "writing the next two years off" or "tanking" and I think it's pretty extreme for most of the iterations of resets I see here. I think many got spoiled by having Jrue/Porzingis as all star caliber players still on the tail end of their primes as our 4th and 5th best players. That's not happening again most likely. The next window of contention for a Tatum/brown/White headlined team is more likely to look like the year prior where it was Horford/Smart/Brogdon/RWilliams/GWilliams rounding out the rotation.

Hauser and Pritchard are still here in those type of roles - Hauser gets moved in a lot of these scenarios but also some where he's kept. Many talk about trying to re-sign Kornet who kind of fits in that category too at a lower cost. The guys people talk about taking back - Klay Thompson, Patrick Williams, WCJ, Vanderbilt, etc. - aren't ideal players, but they're also not trash and they have contracts that could be used in trades for the right fits. Between developing Schierman, our picks this year, and our future picks (mainly 2026) you have to develop some guys too. That's just how it works.

If your long term goal is to build the 23-24 Celtics, then I think you're going to be disappointed. The 22-23 Celtics are a more realistic goal and it's very doable IMO. That's the road map I'd look to, and most of these tax resets are well within reason for that.

I've had the same signature since 2013 when Brad Stevens gave his thoughts about tanking. At the time there was no Tatum or Brown possibilities. Thank God Stevens is who he is. No tank commanding

And that quote came at a press conference introducing him for the head coaching job he accepted of a team that just traded away most of their best players for crap players and picks and then proceeded to do more of that for a year and a half. His first move as GM was to make a pretty bad value trade of the #16 pick for Horford on a big dela because it shed Kemba's money.

Making trades to fix the cap sheet does not mean tank commanding.

No it isn't and I didn't mean to imply that you felt like a deep tank was needed. This CBA makes it clear that you have to make adjustments and try to remain in contention for the title - like it or not.. I remember Stevens saying what he said and believing (correctly) that all would be good because he was coaching to win - not to tank. I was not happy when he went into the front office because I feared he was going the team to save money. He has proven me wrong. I believe he will be making moves based on getting this team to a championship level in a short time.

[Fierce1]

The good news is the Cs can get better internally.

Other teams have the problem of not having star power or not having enough talent.

Joe and the Jays just need to play to their strengths and not play too loose.

Go back to basics.

Not every open 3 you have to take.
That's awareness of time and score.

Don't dribble too much or try dribbling through multiple defenders.

The Cs don't turn the ball over too much, so playing smart will further improve their turnover numbers.

[ddb]

Call me crazy but I don’t think now is the time to trade Jrue. KP is the guy to move. Expiring contract which means a team with space may be willing to take him in as a short-term low risk high reward guy. Pistons make sense here. For Boston you have to figure you played half the games the last two seasons without KP. Moving him for Fontechio, #37 solves the second apron stuff and opens up MLE from what I understand. Add a 3/D wing in free agency. Resign Horford on a 2-year team friendly deal. 2nd year a full player option. Essentially a 1 year deal then and Al can take it year by year with retirement.

I’d see if Milwaukee is open to a JB, 3 1sts, 3seconds and a pick swap deal for Giannis. Giannis gives you a real title window and even without JT, with White/Jrue/PP/Hauser/Al and whatever else is on the roster that’s a top 3-4 seed in a weak east. Then when Tatum returns, and he will, you suddenly are the only team in the association with TWO Top 5 players.

This is how you win Banner 19 and dare I say, 20.

[Fierce1]

Call me crazy but I don’t think now is the time to trade Jrue. KP is the guy to move. Expiring contract which means a team with space may be willing to take him in as a short-term low risk high reward guy. Pistons make sense here. For Boston you have to figure you played half the games the last two seasons without KP. Moving him for Fontechio, #37 solves the second apron stuff and opens up MLE from what I understand. Add a 3/D wing in free agency. Resign Horford on a 2-year team friendly deal. 2nd year a full player option. Essentially a 1 year deal then and Al can take it year by year with retirement.

I’d see if Milwaukee is open to a JB, 3 1sts, 3seconds and a pick swap deal for Giannis. Giannis gives you a real title window and even without JT, with White/Jrue/PP/Hauser/Al and whatever else is on the roster that’s a top 3-4 seed in a weak east. Then when Tatum returns, and he will, you suddenly are the only team in the association with TWO Top 5 players.

This is how you win Banner 19 and dare I say, 20.

That's plausible.

Move JB and KP to get Giannis and keep Jrue.

[phincsfan]

It’s amazing people think Giannis will be playing in Boston. Only time that happens is when whatever team he’s on is on a road trip in Mass.

[Shak_Celts]

It’s amazing people think Giannis will be playing in Boston. Only time that happens is when whatever team he’s on is on a road trip in Mass.

I’m hoping you’re wrong.

[Fierce1]

It’s amazing people think Giannis will be playing in Boston. Only time that happens is when whatever team he’s on is on a road trip in Mass.

Before the Luka trade to LA, I'm with you.

But after Luka ended up in LA, you can't totally rule out improbable scenarios now.

[Hal14]

Hire Jenkins, trade KP and Jrue for whatever could save you money. Be competitive, look towards next season.

I’m not saying we should keep Joe, not saying he can do no wrong, I’m not even saying he’s great (I think he’s good), but I hope if he’s replaced we win all the chips. I guarantee the same people calling for his head won’t have anything to say if the new coach doesn't win either.

I remember that Brad, without a finals appearance or chip, is the genius coach while Ime (before the scandal) wasn’t a good coach. People are still claiming he isn’t a good coach on this forum til this day! Baffling.

I'm assuming Flat Earth just means to hire Jenkins as an assistant? I could be wrong.

But we never really replaced Charles Lee with a legit assistant..think that could have been a factor in our play last season both in reg season and in playoffs that wasn't quite up to par compared to the 23-24 season..

[ddb]

It’s amazing people think Giannis will be playing in Boston. Only time that happens is when whatever team he’s on is on a road trip in Mass.

Here’s the thing. If Dallas or Spurs really want, they can probably land Giannis over anyone else. But it seems like neither one of those teams are willing to move their pick.
Please tell me a team that can outbid a JB, 3 firsts, 3-4 seconds, and a swap. JB locked in for 4 years. They don’t have their own picks so tanking doesn’t make sense.

Knicks- Towns/Bridges or OG, McBride? They already gave up their picks. Brown and picks is the better deal.

Raptors- Barnes? RJ? I’ll take Brown and picks

Miami- Bam? Herro? Brown package is better.

And let’s also not ignore that Giannis has already said he prefers to stay east. If he’s open to West then Spurs and Houston have a shot at it.

I’ll also add this. Has Brad Stevens given you ANY indication that he isn’t a competitive psycho since taking over as President/GM? Do you really think he’s not going to at least try?

[Curmudgeon]

I think Stevens' real target is Flagg, not Giannis. Can he pull it off? Very doubtful, but less so than Giannis.

[ddb]

I think Stevens' real target is Flagg, not Giannis. Can he pull it off? Very doubtful, but less so than Giannis.

I would love that, but like you said, how could he even pull that off?

[SparringPartner]

I think Stevens' real target is Flagg, not Giannis. Can he pull it off? Very doubtful, but less so than Giannis.

Agreed

You trade Brown for #2

Then package #2 /White /Whatever else for #1

[NotAKnicksFan]

I think Stevens' real target is Flagg, not Giannis. Can he pull it off? Very doubtful, but less so than Giannis.

No, flagg is gona cost more than Giannis first off

[NotAKnicksFan]

I think Stevens' real target is Flagg, not Giannis. Can he pull it off? Very doubtful, but less so than Giannis.

Agreed

You trade Brown for #2

Then package #2 /White /Whatever else for #1

Lmao thats not happening, neither trades

[Shak_Celts]

Hire Jenkins, trade KP and Jrue for whatever could save you money. Be competitive, look towards next season.

I’m not saying we should keep Joe, not saying he can do no wrong, I’m not even saying he’s great (I think he’s good), but I hope if he’s replaced we win all the chips. I guarantee the same people calling for his head won’t have anything to say if the new coach doesn't win either.

I remember that Brad, without a finals appearance or chip, is the genius coach while Ime (before the scandal) wasn’t a good coach. People are still claiming he isn’t a good coach on this forum til this day! Baffling.

I'm assuming Flat Earth just means to hire Jenkins as an assistant? I could be wrong.

But we never really replaced Charles Lee with a legit assistant..think that could have been a factor in our play last season both in reg season and in playoffs that wasn't quite up to par compared to the 23-24 season..

You are probably right, my bad to Flat Earth if I’m wrong. I read the posts from them before that about Joe wasting our opportunities, thought it was a continuance of that.

[NotAKnicksFan]

It’s amazing people think Giannis will be playing in Boston. Only time that happens is when whatever team he’s on is on a road trip in Mass.

Here’s the thing. If Dallas or Spurs really want, they can probably land Giannis over anyone else. But it seems like neither one of those teams are willing to move their pick.
Please tell me a team that can outbid a JB, 3 firsts, 3-4 seconds, and a swap. JB locked in for 4 years. They don’t have their own picks so tanking doesn’t make sense.

Knicks- Towns/Bridges or OG, McBride? They already gave up their picks. Brown and picks is the better deal.

Raptors- Barnes? RJ? I’ll take Brown and picks

Miami- Bam? Herro? Brown package is better.

And let’s also not ignore that Giannis has already said he prefers to stay east. If he’s open to West then Spurs and Houston have a shot at it.

I’ll also add this. Has Brad Stevens given you ANY indication that he isn’t a competitive psycho since taking over as President/GM? Do you really think he’s not going to at least try?

Ill go even further , brad will try and aquire giannis without trading brown or tatum

6 future firsts , and whatever else/young talent , expirings he can get for white, porzingis , jrue and hauser .