BobbieL wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:starbosa10 wrote:
Yeah if we deal with the Spurs I'd definitely prefer Barnes over keldon as well, if we are moving off KD to rebuild around book we should be ensuring any veteran salary that's coming back is falling off when beals does
1000000% agree! This would be the best and smartest outcome condition for any salary that we take back!
Johnson wouldn't be horrible since he expires in 2027 - but agree that Barnes is better as he expires a year earlier. Granted, maybe for extra draft capital the Suns take on Johnson through 2027 as that is when Beal could be an expiring.
Brooklyn - do you mean Claxton?
I don't think the Suns can trade back for Nurkic that quickly -- or maybe because they traded him, they can. But I don't want him back -
I would rather keep Vessell than make a bad trade with him just to not have him.
I really don't like Keldon Johnson, and don't have him as having positive value because his contract goes through 27, and he's an undersized physical but unathletic version of O,'neale with worse shooting. I'd much rather have Barnes 19 million expiring for 26 free agency and then Beal's contract expiring so we could be players in BOTH free agencies honestly.
Also, I just think that Barnes expiring (now) would be much easier to package in trade than Johnson with his additional year on his deal.
And I didn't mean Claxton, because I just don't see Vassell having that level of value to pull a Claxton from Brooklyn absent exchanging a 1st or something, so I chose Clowney because he's currently much cheaper, but still is a top 5 2nd yr player in rim protection, he's very long and mobile at 6'11 with a 7'2 wingspan but plays with tremendous motor and intensity. Covers ground and recovers very fast, is a ferocious rebounder, and is a tenacious, physical versatile 4/5.
Clowney is basically a younger cost controlled version of Claxton. So we'd get more cap flexibility in the BRK trade for Clowney, also we'd be getting the 26th and 36th picks to add to our 29th pick too, this would allow us to now add more high end cost controlled talent with now having the 14th, 26th, 29th, 36th and 52nd picks.
We'd essentially be picking un multiple ranges of the draft to pull great talent. And the money saved in taking back Clowney at only 3 million as opposed to Claxtons' 25 million would give us an additional 22 million in cap space this summer to outright sign a Brook Lopez, Myles Turner, Steven Adams or maybe a Ckint Capela???
So we'd still end up with a starting level center while also adding additional picks in this draft and a younger, cost controlled version of Nik Claxton for our core future.
And for the Nurkic Charlotte trade scenario, I'm really just looking at his 19 million expiring as the primary value here as we could easily buy him out to get more cap flexibility towards this summer's free agency. And yes, the Suns could trade for Nurkic back now that the season is over for both teams involved. The restriction is only in effect during the season.
So again, trading back for Nurkic would be premised upon using his 19 million expiring to create more gap flexibility this summer from a buyout, or simply sending him home and then trading his expiring salary aw a filler at the trade deadline to some desperate team?
And my trades aren't bad moves just for the sake of moving him. Each trade is strategically utilizing the cumulative value return to open up more moves, create flexibility and acquire other assets too.
But Vassell shouldn't really stay on our team anyways, because of the severe redundancy tied up in that singular position with already having Booker, Beal (who's not going anywhere), Allen, etc. That's close to 150 million + tied up in the shooting guard position alone man. Definitely not a recipe for success or roster/ financial balance.
