2025 NBA Draft (2)

[76ciology]

I'm not sure if that's true given the team context. If healthy he's pretty far down in the pecking order.

If the goal is to maintain flexibility heading into the trade deadline, like I mentioned earlier, we can easily slide Grimes into more backup SF minutes and give Tre more run at SG as 6th man microwave scorer. Then once the deadline passes, we flip the switch and tighten the rotation into more of a playoff setup.

Maxey/McCain
Grimes/Tre Johnson/Edwards
George/Grimes/
Yabu/Oubre
Embiid/Drummond

"Flip the switch"? I'm sorry, I respect your opinions and the amount of content you routinely bring, but it is beyond delusional to seriously believe that an Embiid/George led team is going to even have a switch to flip at any point in '25-'26.

If the focus is on winning next year which would entail adding win-now pieces, we will be doomed to a long and painful down period after the oh-so inevitable collapse.

The plan within the plan is to make it look like we’re going all-in, give the illusion of competing, when in reality, it’s Embiid and George we’re showcasing. Then we go on a deep playoff run, win the 2026 championship because of the weak east, and flip both of them in the offseason when all the fans are begging to “bring it back”, then their value starts to dip and they no longer look like even half of what they once were.

[Black Mage]

I'm not sure if that's true given the team context. If healthy he's pretty far down in the pecking order.

If the goal is to maintain flexibility heading into the trade deadline, like I mentioned earlier, we can easily slide Grimes into more backup SF minutes and give Tre more run at SG as 6th man microwave scorer. Then once the deadline passes, we flip the switch and tighten the rotation into more of a playoff setup.

Maxey/McCain
Grimes/Tre Johnson/Edwards
George/Grimes/
Yabu/Oubre
Embiid/Drummond

"Flip the switch"? I'm sorry, I respect your opinions and the amount of content you routinely bring, but it is beyond delusional to seriously believe that an Embiid/George led team is going to even have a switch to flip at any point in '25-'26.

If the focus is on winning next year which would entail adding win-now pieces, we will be doomed to a long and painful down period after the oh-so inevitable collapse.

There is no "win now" move for us to make. Even Giannis wouldn't be a win now b/c most trades I see involving us would include #3 more picks, McCain, Edwards and Bona. So we'd be a roster of 3 max deals, one of which is still injury prone or cooked (depending if we moved PG or Joel) and a bunch of old vets on vet min deals or a bunch of Lonnie Walkers that will get creamed when we have to rest our vets.

The Spurs are unique, they can dump a number of combinations involving Castle, #2, Vassell, Johnson etc and more picks and STILL have youth on the court in Fox and Wemby. We just can't match their flexibility.

Our only hope to win a title next year is Joel comes back and plays at 75% of his MVP level. If that happens, Morey can utilize Clippers picks and other assets to bring in a finishing piece. And no, I am not trading whoever we take at #3 in that midseason deal b/c either 1 of 2 things have happened. Either the pick is panning out and at that point they are more valuable as a cost controlled young rising star or they are struggling and now their value is depleted and we wouldn't get good value mid-season.

[Kobblehead]

How about Jeremiah Fears at 3? I didn't realize he was 6'4". He didn't shoot great from 3, but his shot looks smooth.

He's sick, but what are we supposed to do with him, given our current personnel?

Unless Morey is looking to move Tyrese Maxey for a Scottie Barnes or Paolo Banchero, I don't think we can justify selecting Fears.

[76ciology]

He's sick, but what are we supposed to do with him, given our current personnel?

Not sure, but our coach is Nurse.

[LeonJordanJr24]

Ace after Cooper pops out the screen with the most nba talent/ upside. The kid looks like the next great forward. I like tre and vj but Ace pops out the screen to me as the next nba future star. He's got big time nba shotmaking ,with size and athleticism. Do things you can't teach.

Oh not to unmention rim protection.

[Black Mage]

How about Jeremiah Fears at 3? I didn't realize he was 6'4". He didn't shoot great from 3, but his shot looks smooth.

He's sick, but what are we supposed to do with him, given our current personnel?

Unless Morey is looking to move Tyrese Maxey for a Scottie Barnes or Paolo Banchero, I don't think we can justify selecting Fears.

Can't do it, 28% from 3 on 5 attempts per 40 from college 3 range. He wasn't any better really from 2 or at the rim. He also had a high 20% TO rate. Can't justify Fears at 3, I need a player who can at least pretend to be a threat from deep.

[Arsenal]

Right now the guy I want at #35 who will realistically be available is Bogoljub Markovic.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/bogoljub-markovic

19 years old
7'0" in shoes (6' 10 1/2" barefoot)
9'2" standing reach
6' 11 1/2" wingspan
213 lbs

His measurements came back well with center-level standing reach. Looks like a stretch 4/5 who can also distribute. Not a great rim protector but good rebounding.

Read on Twitter

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Ace after Cooper pops out the screen with the most nba talent/ upside. The kid looks like the next great forward. I like tre and vj but Ace pops out the screen to me as the next nba future star. He's got big time nba shotmaking ,with size and athleticism. Do things you can't teach.

Oh not to unmention rim protection.

Agree. You want a swing for the fences pick, it's him. I do think I'll be Ace in the end.

[LeonJordanJr24]

Besides we don't need tre with Grimes resigning and Mccains role as 6th man. Interesting what happens with Oubre,EG,drummond and 35 pick...

Also, a sneaky upgrade if we lose Yabu is to bring back Ben simmons. He can be a better backup point than Dennis Smith Jr lol also a better defender and rebounder than yabu but play the same role cheaper.

[Arsenal]

Besides we don't need tre with Grimes resigning and Mccains role as 6th man. Interesting what happens with Oubre,EG,drummond and 35 pick...

Also, a sneaky upgrade if we lose Yabu is to bring back Ben simmons. He can be a better backup point than Dennis Smith Jr lol also a better defender and rebounder than yabu but play the same role cheaper.

There's no way Young Socialite comes back even if we wanted him.

[Phillybul]

Besides we don't need tre with Grimes resigning and Mccains role as 6th man. Interesting what happens with Oubre,EG,drummond and 35 pick...

Also, a sneaky upgrade if we lose Yabu is to bring back Ben simmons. He can be a better backup point than Dennis Smith Jr lol also a better defender and rebounder than yabu but play the same role cheaper.

I dont feel resigning Grimes and having McCain should trigger a feeling of “we don’t need Tre Johnson, VJ” because they are guards. At pick 3 of any draft it’s wise to go BPA over need (or what we don’t need). Reason being I don’t feel you can trade McCain for the 3rd overall pick. I don’t feel (hypothetically speaking here) you could even package Grimes/Mccain for the 3rd overall pick. The reason why is because at 3 the hopes is you’re drafting a stud talent you can possibly build around. Be that guard, forward or center. I saw your argument for Ace and that reads “BPA” which is imo how anyone should view the 3rd overall pick. I’m just not a fan of “we have guards”, “we don’t need guards” etc because realistically speaking Maxey is the only proven guard on this roster.

[Iverson Armband]

Besides we don't need tre with Grimes resigning and Mccains role as 6th man. Interesting what happens with Oubre,EG,drummond and 35 pick...

Also, a sneaky upgrade if we lose Yabu is to bring back Ben simmons. He can be a better backup point than Dennis Smith Jr lol also a better defender and rebounder than yabu but play the same role cheaper.

I dont feel resigning Grimes and having McCain should trigger a feeling of “we don’t need Tre Johnson, VJ” because they are guards. At pick 3 of any draft it’s wise to go BPA over need (or what we don’t need). Reason being I don’t feel you can trade McCain for the 3rd overall pick. I don’t feel (hypothetically speaking here) you could even package Grimes/Mccain for the 3rd overall pick. The reason why is because at 3 the hopes is you’re drafting a stud talent you can possibly build around. Be that guard, forward or center. I saw your argument for Ace and that reads “BPA” which is imo how anyone should view the 3rd overall pick. I’m just not a fan of “we have guards”, “we don’t need guards” etc because realistically speaking Maxey is the only proven guard on this roster.

Exactly. And even Maxey isn’t a player you should be building around.

[LeonJordanJr24]

Besides we don't need tre with Grimes resigning and Mccains role as 6th man. Interesting what happens with Oubre,EG,drummond and 35 pick...

Also, a sneaky upgrade if we lose Yabu is to bring back Ben simmons. He can be a better backup point than Dennis Smith Jr lol also a better defender and rebounder than yabu but play the same role cheaper.

I dont feel resigning Grimes and having McCain should trigger a feeling of “we don’t need Tre Johnson, VJ” because they are guards. At pick 3 of any draft it’s wise to go BPA over need (or what we don’t need). Reason being I don’t feel you can trade McCain for the 3rd overall pick. I don’t feel (hypothetically speaking here) you could even package Grimes/Mccain for the 3rd overall pick. The reason why is because at 3 the hopes is you’re drafting a stud talent you can possibly build around. Be that guard, forward or center. I saw your argument for Ace and that reads “BPA” which is imo how anyone should view the 3rd overall pick. I’m just not a fan of “we have guards”, “we don’t need guards” etc because realistically speaking Maxey is the only proven guard on this roster.

Exactly. And even Maxey isn’t a player you should be building around.

Aint building around Tre Johnson. Ace or Harper it is....

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

If the goal is to maintain flexibility heading into the trade deadline, like I mentioned earlier, we can easily slide Grimes into more backup SF minutes and give Tre more run at SG as 6th man microwave scorer. Then once the deadline passes, we flip the switch and tighten the rotation into more of a playoff setup.

Maxey/McCain
Grimes/Tre Johnson/Edwards
George/Grimes/
Yabu/Oubre
Embiid/Drummond

"Flip the switch"? I'm sorry, I respect your opinions and the amount of content you routinely bring, but it is beyond delusional to seriously believe that an Embiid/George led team is going to even have a switch to flip at any point in '25-'26.

If the focus is on winning next year which would entail adding win-now pieces, we will be doomed to a long and painful down period after the oh-so inevitable collapse.

The plan within the plan is to make it look like we’re going all-in, give the illusion of competing, when in reality, it’s Embiid and George we’re showcasing. Then we go on a deep playoff run, win the 2026 championship because of the weak east, and flip both of them in the offseason when all the fans are begging to “bring it back”, then their value starts to dip and they no longer look like even half of what they once were.

Bro, you get out there at times. This is one of those times. We aren't showcasing Embiid and George. This isn't going to be any different next season. Both are going to continue missing significant amounts of time. There is no "switch" to flip with this team. The future starts over on draft night.

[Negrodamus]

What if...

...someone gets to CMB and teaches him how to shoot?

He already has the youth, length, scoring, rebounding, playmaking, defense.

I was looking for you to answer this before: does he count as Brolic archetype?

[ProcessDoctor]

"Flip the switch"? I'm sorry, I respect your opinions and the amount of content you routinely bring, but it is beyond delusional to seriously believe that an Embiid/George led team is going to even have a switch to flip at any point in '25-'26.

If the focus is on winning next year which would entail adding win-now pieces, we will be doomed to a long and painful down period after the oh-so inevitable collapse.

The plan within the plan is to make it look like we’re going all-in, give the illusion of competing, when in reality, it’s Embiid and George we’re showcasing. Then we go on a deep playoff run, win the 2026 championship because of the weak east, and flip both of them in the offseason when all the fans are begging to “bring it back”, then their value starts to dip and they no longer look like even half of what they once were.

Bro, you get out there at times. This is one of those times. We aren't showcasing Embiid and George. This isn't going to be any different next season. Both are going to continue missing significant amounts of time. There is no "switch" to flip with this team. The future starts over on draft night.

I think there's some truth to what both of you are saying. That being said, we need to do everything we can to get rid of at least one of them. You can't have 2 unavailable stars, and it's only going to piss off Maxey, resulting in losing all 3.

I agree we need to start focusing on drafting well and starting a youth movement around Maxey, McCain, and #3.

[Arsenal]

There's no doubt the first half of next season will be devoted to a pump and dump scheme on Embiid and George.

As soon as either one has a healthy stretch of play to rehab their value we gotta be ready to pull the trigger.

[NYSixersFan]

How about Jeremiah Fears at 3? I didn't realize he was 6'4". He didn't shoot great from 3, but his shot looks smooth.

He's sick, but what are we supposed to do with him, given our current personnel?

Unless Morey is looking to move Tyrese Maxey for a Scottie Barnes or Paolo Banchero, I don't think we can justify selecting Fears.

I think Fears is a better fit than VJ or Tre...We don't have a real PG on this roster. He's big enough to play with Maxey or McCain.

The question is what would we do with Tre or VJ? I don't want Ace.

[Negrodamus]

I think CMB has a fixable jumper. It actually looks fine; definitely not broken. I think he needs an offseason with a shooting specialist. 70% FT as a PF is a little iffy in terms of projectable shots, but it's not a disaster like sub 60%.

The more I watch of him, I see some of the juice that I see with Derik Queen and feel he is being underrated way to much. High floor with a decently high ceiling if he becomes a 35% 3FG shooter.

[mjkvol]

"Flip the switch"? I'm sorry, I respect your opinions and the amount of content you routinely bring, but it is beyond delusional to seriously believe that an Embiid/George led team is going to even have a switch to flip at any point in '25-'26.

If the focus is on winning next year which would entail adding win-now pieces, we will be doomed to a long and painful down period after the oh-so inevitable collapse.

The plan within the plan is to make it look like we’re going all-in, give the illusion of competing, when in reality, it’s Embiid and George we’re showcasing. Then we go on a deep playoff run, win the 2026 championship because of the weak east, and flip both of them in the offseason when all the fans are begging to “bring it back”, then their value starts to dip and they no longer look like even half of what they once were.

Bro, you get out there at times. This is one of those times. We aren't showcasing Embiid and George. This isn't going to be any different next season. Both are going to continue missing significant amounts of time. There is no "switch" to flip with this team. The future starts over on draft night.

I believe he was being facetious.