Mark Daigneault vs Rick Carlisle

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Re: Mark Daigneault vs Rick Carlisle 

Post#41 » by Capn'O » Fri Jun 6, 2025 3:09 pm

Between overarching strategy and in-game management, Rick has coached an absolute masterclass this playoffs.

Daigs has improved as series progress though.
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Post#42 » by fanofthegreats » Fri Jun 6, 2025 3:11 pm

Rick is tiers better than this rookie coach
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Re: Mark Daigneault vs Rick Carlisle 

Post#43 » by Woodsanity » Fri Jun 6, 2025 3:14 pm

Daigs is a good coach but Rick has decades of experience on him. He outcoached Daigs badly last game.
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Post#44 » by Deathray » Fri Jun 6, 2025 3:48 pm

Daigs has probably cost his team two game ones with bad late game decisions. The stupid fouling strategy against the Nuggets and not having a big in the game on the Thunder's final possession in case Shai missed. An elite coach doesn't make those mistakes.
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Re: Mark Daigneault vs Rick Carlisle 

Post#45 » by jkvonny » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:12 pm

RunOKC wrote:Mark is great at prepping the team and not a terrible game manager either (minus game 1 vs Denver... that was awful), but Carlisle's in game management/adjustments are HOF level stuff. No contest.

He's terrible at times (game manager) . Too many brain farts. But, he's still learning.
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Post#46 » by Optimus_Steel » Fri Jun 6, 2025 5:43 pm

Rick is easily the best at single handedly stopping the other teams momentum. That alone makes him better than the other guy.
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Post#47 » by Alatan » Fri Jun 6, 2025 6:09 pm

Not even a contest. And i dont need to mention who is better because everyone knows.
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Post#48 » by mkot » Fri Jun 6, 2025 7:34 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Adelman really made a lot of solid schematic adjustments that made Mark look less impressive but as that series went on Mark got a lot better.


I think despite having injuries, no depth and only 3 games in the RS to prepare for the PO, Adelman has done a great job against a healthy and deep team. So given the situations I think he outcoached Daigneault, pretty convincingly actually.

I actually like his adjustment on playing only 1 big against this Pacers team, I'm not sure Siakam is a great matchup for Chet as Siakam has excellent footwork and can do his herky jerky moves to get around him, and Turner just going to pull him out to the perimeter. But the team need him out there. I don't think Siakam would have grab that offensive rebound put back if one of Chet or Hartenstein is in the game.
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Re: Mark Daigneault vs Rick Carlisle 

Post#49 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Jun 7, 2025 3:27 pm

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Re: Mark Daigneault vs Rick Carlisle 

Post#50 » by UglyBugBall » Sat Jun 7, 2025 4:59 pm

SUPERVILLAIN wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Adelman really made a lot of solid schematic adjustments that made Mark look less impressive but as that series went on Mark got a lot better.

This is nothing to be embarrassed about. Jokic rules. Any team would have a (very) hard time whenever they play against the absolute best player in the world.


He was the best player in the world. That time is over.
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Post#51 » by simplyorange » Sat Jun 7, 2025 11:39 pm

Pretty weak to change your starting lineup game 1 of the Finals!!!!!!!
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Re: Mark Daigneault vs Rick Carlisle 

Post#52 » by One Last Shot » Sun Jun 8, 2025 12:02 am

Deathray wrote:Daigs has probably cost his team two game ones with bad late game decisions. The stupid fouling strategy against the Nuggets and not having a big in the game on the Thunder's final possession in case Shai missed. An elite coach doesn't make those mistakes.


In game 6 of 2013 Finals, Popovich take out Duncan in the crucial seconds that resulted to an offensive rebound by Bosh and Ray Allen 3 that basically cost them an NBA title. Does that mean Pop isn't an elite coach with that mistake?
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Re: Mark Daigneault vs Rick Carlisle 

Post#53 » by AleksandarN » Sun Jun 8, 2025 12:22 am

UglyBugBall wrote:
SUPERVILLAIN wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Adelman really made a lot of solid schematic adjustments that made Mark look less impressive but as that series went on Mark got a lot better.

This is nothing to be embarrassed about. Jokic rules. Any team would have a (very) hard time whenever they play against the absolute best player in the world.


He was the best player in the world. That time is over.


Lol. He was the best player in the Olympics, the NBA pre season , season and postseason. Did better with less talent.
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Re: Mark Daigneault vs Rick Carlisle 

Post#54 » by NO-KG-AI » Sun Jun 8, 2025 12:39 am

One Last Shot wrote:
Deathray wrote:Daigs has probably cost his team two game ones with bad late game decisions. The stupid fouling strategy against the Nuggets and not having a big in the game on the Thunder's final possession in case Shai missed. An elite coach doesn't make those mistakes.


In game 6 of 2013 Finals, Popovich take out Duncan in the crucial seconds that resulted to an offensive rebound by Bosh and Ray Allen 3 that basically cost them an NBA title. Does that mean Pop isn't an elite coach with that mistake?


If Daigs gets half the results Pop did, he’ll get more of a benefit of the doubt.
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Re: Mark Daigneault vs Rick Carlisle 

Post#55 » by 1993Playoffs » Sun Jun 8, 2025 1:02 am

Rick Carlisle and it’s not even close
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Post#56 » by Wingy » Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:38 am

Xs & Os aside, I disliked Daigneault’s body language early. He looked tight, and uncomfortable. The team too often followed suit.

Thunder should fire him and hire Thibs.
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Re: Mark Daigneault vs Rick Carlisle 

Post#57 » by BruttoNostra » Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:03 am

Yea, right, the scapegoat for the chicken wing MVP is the coach now.
Not like the MVP in his 10 minutes of the 4th quarter had 3 points with 1/3 FG, 1/2 FT, 1 rebound, 0 assists and stocks and 1 turnover. What a clutch performance.
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Re: Mark Daigneault vs Rick Carlisle 

Post#58 » by Lalouie » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:26 am

carlisle MUST have the advantage for indy to compete with okc

mark can unleash the horses
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Re: Mark Daigneault vs Rick Carlisle 

Post#59 » by JujitsuFlip » Yesterday 6:36 pm

Can we talk about Daigneault's adjustment to stop shooting a bunch of 3s in the 3 point era?

Game 1: 30 - 3PA
Game 2: 36 - 3PA
Game 3: 22 - 3PA
Game 4: 16 - 3PA

I assume they're limiting their 3 point attempts so not to create long rebounds on misses which creates a built in fast break for the Pacers. Even if the Thunder get back, the Pacers are good at that secondary break due to cross matches.

It's a risky strategy because you're conceding so many points from behind the arc. We'll see where they take the strategy in game 5.
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Re: Mark Daigneault vs Rick Carlisle 

Post#60 » by Ssj16 » Yesterday 7:51 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:Can we talk about Daigneault's adjustment to stop shooting a bunch of 3s in the 3 point era?

Game 1: 30 - 3PA
Game 2: 36 - 3PA
Game 3: 22 - 3PA
Game 4: 16 - 3PA

I assume they're limiting their 3 point attempts so not to create long rebounds on misses which creates a built in fast break for the Pacers. Even if the Thunder get back, the Pacers are good at that secondary break due to cross matches.

It's a risky strategy because you're conceding so many points from behind the arc. We'll see where they take the strategy in game 5.


I love this. Too many teams get caught up on 3s and layups and forget the mid game. It's good to space the floor but if all you do is depend on 3s, your offense becomes predictable and once the 3s stop falling, you are finished (ask Boston).

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