Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap -- 1st page updated on July 1st

[arkuo]

Kidd has percieved value in New York. It means they view him as an asset otherwise why try to get him. Dallas should get a first rounder for him rather than let him walk for free. Flip your trash for money, people. Don't give stuff away for free just because.

[Mavrelous]

Simpler explanation is he's looking for an extension/raise.

Bingo! That’s exactly what Kidd is leveraging this into.

Kidd is not talking to Knicks, he's not allowed, Knicks are talking to Mavs, he's not doing anything, yet. If it comes to talks then you can say he's trying to twist Nico's arm.

The New York Knicks are expected to formally request permission from the Dallas Mavericks to speak with Jason Kidd about their head coaching vacancy. The Knicks parted ways with Tom Thibodeau shortly after the end of the Eastern Conference Finals. Kidd signed a two-year extension in May 2024

Some league sources have described the New York's interest as "serious" and some believe Kidd is atop the team's wish list. Kidd interviewed for the Knicks' job with Leon Rose in 2020 when the job eventually went to Thibodeau. Kidd was head coach of the Mavericks in 2021-22 when Jalen Brunson had a breakout season before signing with the Knicks in free agency that offseason.

"I think the relationship that me and J-Kidd have is very unique," Brunson said after becoming a Knick.

Knicks don't do this w/o a blessing under the table from Kidd.
There are 2 options:
1. Kidd wants to secure himself in case Nico is gone and new GM comes with different vision
2. Kidd really wants out

I lean towards 1 much more.

[41Dirk41]

Kidd has percieved value in New York. It means they view him as an asset otherwise why try to get him. Dallas should get a first rounder for him rather than let him walk for free. Flip your trash for money, people. Don't give stuff away for free just because.

That's true.

And i agree with Mav too... Harrison days here are almost over and Kidd know it.

[arkuo]

Bingo! That’s exactly what Kidd is leveraging this into.

Kidd is not talking to Knicks, he's not allowed, Knicks are talking to Mavs, he's not doing anything, yet. If it comes to talks then you can say he's trying to twist Nico's arm.

The New York Knicks are expected to formally request permission from the Dallas Mavericks to speak with Jason Kidd about their head coaching vacancy. The Knicks parted ways with Tom Thibodeau shortly after the end of the Eastern Conference Finals. Kidd signed a two-year extension in May 2024

Some league sources have described the New York's interest as "serious" and some believe Kidd is atop the team's wish list. Kidd interviewed for the Knicks' job with Leon Rose in 2020 when the job eventually went to Thibodeau. Kidd was head coach of the Mavericks in 2021-22 when Jalen Brunson had a breakout season before signing with the Knicks in free agency that offseason.

"I think the relationship that me and J-Kidd have is very unique," Brunson said after becoming a Knick.

Knicks don't do this w/o a blessing under the table from Kidd.
There are 2 options:
1. Kidd wants to secure himself in case Nico is gone and new GM comes with different vision
2. Kidd really wants out

I lean towards 1 much more.

Kidd is a Cuban hire with prodding from Dirk.

I'd like to think Dumont wants to start hiring "his guys". That includes Nico's job eventually. And they're moving to a new arena and all. Would start that thing with a bang with an all new staff and the corpse of Rick Weltz.

[Archx]

Bingo! That’s exactly what Kidd is leveraging this into.

Kidd is not talking to Knicks, he's not allowed, Knicks are talking to Mavs, he's not doing anything, yet. If it comes to talks then you can say he's trying to twist Nico's arm.

The New York Knicks are expected to formally request permission from the Dallas Mavericks to speak with Jason Kidd about their head coaching vacancy. The Knicks parted ways with Tom Thibodeau shortly after the end of the Eastern Conference Finals. Kidd signed a two-year extension in May 2024

Some league sources have described the New York's interest as "serious" and some believe Kidd is atop the team's wish list. Kidd interviewed for the Knicks' job with Leon Rose in 2020 when the job eventually went to Thibodeau. Kidd was head coach of the Mavericks in 2021-22 when Jalen Brunson had a breakout season before signing with the Knicks in free agency that offseason.

"I think the relationship that me and J-Kidd have is very unique," Brunson said after becoming a Knick.

Knicks don't do this w/o a blessing under the table from Kidd.
There are 2 options:
1. Kidd wants to secure himself in case Nico is gone and new GM comes with different vision
2. Kidd really wants out

I lean towards 1 much more.

Would be awesome if tunnel rat would be gone but i'm not buying it. I also don't believe Kidd went to Knicks under the table. But stranger things have happened before.

The reason for this is, Kidd will potentially have the best roster he's ever had in the league. If he secures another contract, even a new GM can still easily replace him it's just that Dumont would have to pay extra coaches salary. He also just got extended in 2024 so it's not like he's gone anytime soon anyway.
I said before if he bolts to the Knicks that means there is something much bigger going on in the backroom and i would certainly believe that Nico would be on his way out as well. But i don't see that because apparently they're all in this together.

Kidd is a Cuban hire with prodding from Dirk.

Nico gave him extension recently, so he's also "his" guy

[arkuo]

Nico gave him extension recently, so he's also "his" guy

Yeah. Kidd strikes me as someone you can collude to do something shady with. He's the guy who asked a player to bump into him on purpose so he can spill his drink for a free timeout. Wouldn't put it past him to do illegal stuff in the league. He'd probably sell PEDs to players if money was tight.

[Archx]

Yup. A bunch of smoke for nothing. Knicks got a bit overconfident there.

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[arkuo]

Like Dirk41 said, whatever reinforcement the staff gets, the better. NBA head coaches rarely handle practices. It's these guys that do the heavy lifting. So ideally you''d want someone good there.

[41Dirk41]

Like Dirk41 said, whatever reinforcement the staff gets, the better. NBA head coaches rarely handle practices. It's these guys that do the heavy lifting. So ideally you''d want someone good there.

Remember the 2011 coaching staff... It was insane.

[arkuo]

Realgm reporting that Cleveland is open to trading Darius Garland. I'd give Kyrie a chance for a big homecoming to the team that drafted him. I'd pack his bags too!

[Darren]

It sounds like the Mavs will opt to rebuild sooner than laters. Kidd might be on the Mavs to NYK for a first rounder.
The Mavs might move on from AD who's clearly playing the same position for Flagg

Then, I think about a 5-way trade to send both AD and Klay to team up with Luka.

CHA OUT: LaMelo Ball
CHA IN: Dejounte Murray, Max Christie, LAL 1st

Why for CHA? To move on from LaMelo and get back equivalent value and playmakers to continue the rebuild. LA' 1st could be valuable one when LBJ retired.

CHI OUT: Coby White, Lonzo Ball, CHI 1st to NOP
CHI IN: PJ Washington, Daniel Gafford

Why for CHI? Chicago is looking for center. Gafford is one of the very best available. And their clear the long jam at backcourt for frontcourt help. With PJ and Gafford, Chicago will make the playoff again as MIL and BOS are rebuilding.

DAL OUT: Antony Davis, Klay Thompson, Max Christie, Caleb Martin, PJ Washington, Daniel Gafford, DAL 2nd
DAL IN: LaMelo Ball, Herb Jones, Maxi Kleber, Coby White, Lonzo Ball

Why for DAL? The Mavs find the right home for AD and Klay while clearing up space for cost-controlled role player. LaMelo Ball and Herb Jones are long-term core. The Mavs could find a combo guard or 3D swingman to round up the core at some point.

LAL OUT: Rui Hachimura, Maxi Kleber, Austin Reaves, Gabe Vincent, Dalton Knecht, Shake Milton, 1st to CHA
LAL IN: Anthony Davis, Klay Thompson, Caleb Martin

Why for LAL? Win now. This is the last year of Lebron. AD knows the LAL system. Klay wants to play alongside Luka. Martin has played on Finals.

NOP OUT:Herb Jones, Dejounte Murray,
NOP IN: Austin Reaves, Gabe Vincent, Rui Hachimura, Dalton Knecht, CHI 1st, DAL 2nd

Why for NOP?" To rebuild while getting back value. They get an all-star in Reaves as a rental combining with 2 1st for Herb and Murray.


After the trade, Mavs roster could become:

C - DLive / Kleber / Powell
PF - Flagg / OMax
SF - LaMelo / Marshall
SG - Herb / Lonzo / Hardy
PG - Kyrie / White / BWill

The Mavs could sign Kai Jones to min with Jamarion Sharp to TWC for insurance to Powell and Maxi's health and call it an offseason. This team is deep enough to contend with significant pieces when Kyrie expires. DLive and OMax gets more minutes this season. You've got 3 elite playmakers, 2 shutdown defenders and a potentially elite shotblocker as DLive mature on time.

[Archx]

LaMelo at SF and Herb as SG? Jesus man...

-Absolutely no synergy with this team
-Logjam of guards
-Stuck with Powell/Maxi center/forward lineup to sub out Flagg/Lively.
-Coby White would want to come from the bench?
-B.Williams buried on the bench? Better trade him for a good package then.

And all of that before even checking if salaries match. The only thing this team would contend for is a play in spot again. And would also end up at the bottom in rebounding and defense.

[Heezzi]

Yall are delusional.

[Mr B]

Yall are delusional.

These are strange times in Mavs land. Any other time I would agree some of these trade proposals sound ridiculous but after trading Luka anything could happen. This team is at a crossroads. Some changes are going to be made. How drastic will the changes be we have no idea.

[daoneandonly]

Darren has been doing this for years. It was beyond frustrating for a while, but now just learned to ignore or brush it off. Lamelo is trash

[Darren]

Along with Dennis Smith Jr. and Cam Reddish, the Mavericks are also expected to work out a trio of Williams: Alondes Williams (last played for the Detroit Pistons, Malik Williams (Raptors), and Jaylin Williams (Grand Rapids Gold; NOT the OKC Thunder forward).

[Archx]

Kidd has percieved value in New York. It means they view him as an asset otherwise why try to get him. Dallas should get a first rounder for him rather than let him walk for free. Flip your trash for money, people. Don't give stuff away for free just because.

That's true.

And i agree with Mav too... Harrison days here are almost over and Kidd know it.

After all this time you still don't trust me. I'm hurt


As i said earlier. Knicks just making fools out of themselves. Kidd is Nico's guy and he's sticking with him and AD as well. The only way i see this whole thing fall apart is if Dumont fires the rat and new GM re-tools the Mavs.

[Stein]: The Mavericks are expected to decline the Knicks request to interview Jason Kidd for their head coaching position.

[joesha1698]

Realgm reporting that Cleveland is open to trading Darius Garland. I'd give Kyrie a chance for a big homecoming to the team that drafted him. I'd pack his bags too!

Kyrie is not going to Cleveland. Even if he was traded there - he would just leave when he's healthy and take his sweet time to get healthy.

[Darren]

Herb Jones and Elfred Payton for Max Christie, Jaden Hardy, Oliver-Maxrence Prosper, and a 1st. This offseason is finished. You can sign CP3 or Exum, though. Just get to the gym room and work for the summer after that. Let DLive takes some 3s regularly. Then, you play the same way OKC play with extra manpower (Gafford, PJ, Klay, Marshall, CP3). This team is deeper than the OKC. Keep the core. Stay in the moment. Do not let the extension talks or cap concerns distroying the chemistry. The second unit is effective with an inside-out game with Gafford surrounded by great shooter and pick-n-roll partners.

C - DLive - Gaff / Powell
PF - AD / PJ / Kai Jones?
SF - Flagg / Klay / Marshall
SF - Herb / BWill / Martin
SG - Kyrie / CP3 or Exum / Payton

[Teffer10]

Anybody hear anything about Ajinca?