ciueli wrote:PushDaRock wrote:ciueli wrote:
If he was the player you want him to be he wouldn't be available in trade for anything we have. No player is perfect, Giannis is poor free throw shooter and can't space the floor, Durant's defence is dropping off and he has a terrible heath record, KAT just got savaged in the media for losing to the Pacers because he's clueless on defence and blows coverages constantly. If we're legitimately interested in adding star talent to our roster, actual star talent that we can realistically trade for, I don't see many options outside players like Sabonis or Darius Garland.
You were saying he isn't bad as a defender, I simply disagree and think he sucks. Not sure how that has anything to do with him needing to be a perfect player.
I don't have interest in Garland, I don't see him as that significant of an upgrade over IQ to where we should give up significant assets to get him.
Sabonis isn't a bad player, but the price tag wouldn't be what I'm willing to pay. It wouldn't be an Ingram type opportunity where we get someone really talented for contract filler and minimal draft compensation. We would have to take away talent from the actual team on top of significant draft assets and I don't think Sabonis moves the needle enough for that.
You like the Ingram trade and he's a 1x All-Star, hasn't been an All-Star for 5 seasons, and is injured all the time, he played 18 games this season. That contract will destroy us if he can't stay healthy going forward and provide decent production. All it takes is one season ending injury which happens to him basically every season and we're sunk.
With respect to Sabonis, I don't see Jak + Scottie ever working out without Scottie miraculously gaining a league average 3 point shot, the league has evolved past two non-shooters at the 4 and 5, if we want to build around Scottie we need someone else at the 5, otherwise there's a hard ceiling on what this team can ever be. Maybe Sabonis isn't the answer, but something has to be done there, if it didn't work with Pascal who was actually a semi-competent 3 point shooter at times it sure won't work with Jak and Scottie.
Garland is a an upgrade over IQ because he can actually create his own offence, the number that stands out to me is percentage of field goal attempts assisted, IQ is 74.1% for 3s and 38.4% for 2s, this season and Garland is 57.1% for 3s and 33% for 2s, that's a big difference. Garland is more able to shoot off the dribble and not just catch and shoot, IQ is more limited to being a spot up shooter in our offence, give him the ball and ask him to do something with it and it's asking him to do too much. Just watching Garland he actually looks like a lead PG while IQ comes off as more of an off ball shooter, that would be fine if we had a star level guard next to him but we don't. And that's all with Garland often needing to defer to Donovan Mitchell as the Cavs' lead ball handler.
Let's be honest... NBA defense is dogpoop anyway and I actually don't really care about "his defense sucks", it's a team/scheme anyway. You can hide "bad defenders", at least until the NBA let's these guys play. There was a good first step in killing off the Harden/Luca BS. Bring the hand check back.
There are so few high level one on one defenders in the league. I'm not sure if it's how the league has evolved, or it's simply ridiculously hard because of how athletic these freaks are.
Ingram is going to be massive if the Raptors medical staff can keep him on the floor 70+ games a year (plus playoffs). We don't have Ingram's medical records, and I think the Raptors are pretty confident in being able to do that. The Pelicans are currently the worst run organization in the NBA, and maybe their medical staff is as bad as their player personel department.
Who gives a poop about "all star" selections? Fans will vote for their favourite player even if they were dead. It's probably the worst metric to measure a player's worth. Nevermind who actually watches that crap?
As for IQ, we simply don't have enough yet to make any determination about how he will develop. This past season was too bad for him, but I'm still high on him. I do love Garland though, too bad he has to play in the toilet bowl of Ohio. Though, during the Pacers series... some holes appeared. He'll solve em.
This is going to be a fun offseason I think....
