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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#281 » by superunknown » Sun Jun 8, 2025 9:06 am

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cpower wrote:i suggest most of you watch the NBA finals... Pacers have 6 players that have a better offensive package (more efficient and making offense flow in deep playoffs games) than JK: Haliburton, Nesmith, Toppin, Siakam, Turner and Nembhard... and OKC has 5: SGA, JWill, Hartenstein, Holmgren and Caruso...The league has crazy amount of talent .....overrating our own player and overpaying him is not going to help us...its time to open the eyes and think about the bigger picture


Are you talk about D.Green?


draymond green is def the first one on the list. but JK hasn't shown much in terms of offensive package to justify the $$ he's seeking.
the poster is right: haliburton, nembahrd, nesmith, siakam, turner (basically the whole starting 5) plus mcconnell, mathurin and even obi toppin have shown to have a better offensive package than our counterparts, which includes kuminga. podz, moody, kuminga, ofc dray and looney, santos they are worse than the aforementioned IND players. the only one who are not are steph, buddy, jimmy (who is not a great 3 points shooter but can score and get to the FTs line pretty consistentlly) and perhaps post.
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Post#282 » by cpower » Sun Jun 8, 2025 3:07 pm

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cpower wrote:i suggest most of you watch the NBA finals... Pacers have 6 players that have a better offensive package (more efficient and making offense flow in deep playoffs games) than JK: Haliburton, Nesmith, Toppin, Siakam, Turner and Nembhard... and OKC has 5: SGA, JWill, Hartenstein, Holmgren and Caruso...The league has crazy amount of talent .....overrating our own player and overpaying him is not going to help us...its time to open the eyes and think about the bigger picture


Are you talk about D.Green?

what? Green has put up top 10 RAPM times 7 times in his career (including 2025). In comparison Giannis 6 times, Butler 4 times, PG 5 times. He is an average offensive player but all time great defender and dont really hurt us. Put some respect to his name ....
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Post#283 » by whatisacenter » Sun Jun 8, 2025 4:47 pm

cpower wrote:i suggest most of you watch the NBA finals... Pacers have 6 players that have a better offensive package (more efficient and making offense flow in deep playoffs games) than JK: Haliburton, Nesmith, Toppin, Siakam, Turner and Nembhard... and OKC has 5: SGA, JWill, Hartenstein, Holmgren and Caruso...The league has crazy amount of talent .....overrating our own player and overpaying him is not going to help us...its time to open the eyes and think about the bigger picture


LOL, I suggest most of you watch the NBA finals and imagine how fast the old, short, unathletic Warriors would get run off the court!

There are so many current Warriors the Pacers and OKC would just ignore on offense and they would take Curry away. Imagine Draymond at the top of the key without a soul around him waiting for Curry to try to get open. Imagine Podz trying to bring the ball up the court against either one of these teams. Imagine teams just packing the paint and daring Jimmy to shoot from deep.

But yeah, trade JK and all these warts will just go away! :lol:
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Post#284 » by Onus » Sun Jun 8, 2025 8:16 pm

Onus wrote:Monte poole saying it’s likely jk is coming back.

Maybe we can pick up horford.

Curry/
Podz/buddy
Jimmy/moody
Jk/dray/gui
Horford/post/tjd

Think back up pg may be the hardest to fill. Seems like there could be options to bring in a 20 mpg center.

Dallas and the kings are also looking for starting pgs. Hell the suns are probably as well.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#285 » by CS707 » Sun Jun 8, 2025 10:20 pm

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cpower wrote:i suggest most of you watch the NBA finals... Pacers have 6 players that have a better offensive package (more efficient and making offense flow in deep playoffs games) than JK: Haliburton, Nesmith, Toppin, Siakam, Turner and Nembhard... and OKC has 5: SGA, JWill, Hartenstein, Holmgren and Caruso...The league has crazy amount of talent .....overrating our own player and overpaying him is not going to help us...its time to open the eyes and think about the bigger picture


LOL, I suggest most of you watch the NBA finals and imagine how fast the old, short, unathletic Warriors would get run off the court!

There are so many current Warriors the Pacers and OKC would just ignore on offense and they would take Curry away. Imagine Draymond at the top of the key without a soul around him waiting for Curry to try to get open. Imagine Podz trying to bring the ball up the court against either one of these teams. Imagine teams just packing the paint and daring Jimmy to shoot from deep.

But yeah, trade JK and all these warts will just go away! :lol:


There is no world where the Warriors are a move or two away from being OKC or the Pacers. We are now where they hope to be in a decade, in the twilight of a dynasty. I don’t really get the angst around how we compare to teams that spent years to finally put a competitive squads together. Even if we blew it up, which is the only way we get to that point again, it’s a several year process. Otherwise you nibble around the edges hoping to stay in the mix and push the inevitable rebuild a little further down the road.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#286 » by whatisacenter » Sun Jun 8, 2025 10:58 pm

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cpower wrote:i suggest most of you watch the NBA finals... Pacers have 6 players that have a better offensive package (more efficient and making offense flow in deep playoffs games) than JK: Haliburton, Nesmith, Toppin, Siakam, Turner and Nembhard... and OKC has 5: SGA, JWill, Hartenstein, Holmgren and Caruso...The league has crazy amount of talent .....overrating our own player and overpaying him is not going to help us...its time to open the eyes and think about the bigger picture


LOL, I suggest most of you watch the NBA finals and imagine how fast the old, short, unathletic Warriors would get run off the court!

There are so many current Warriors the Pacers and OKC would just ignore on offense and they would take Curry away. Imagine Draymond at the top of the key without a soul around him waiting for Curry to try to get open. Imagine Podz trying to bring the ball up the court against either one of these teams. Imagine teams just packing the paint and daring Jimmy to shoot from deep.

But yeah, trade JK and all these warts will just go away! :lol:


There is no world where the Warriors are a move or two away from being OKC or the Pacers. We are now where they hope to be in a decade, in the twilight of a dynasty. I don’t really get the angst around how we compare to teams that spent years to finally put a competitive squads together. Even if we blew it up, which is the only way we get to that point again, it’s a several year process. Otherwise you nibble around the edges hoping to stay in the mix and push the inevitable rebuild a little further down the road.


I agree the rebuild will take time unless the Warriors have become an organization that stars look at in a new light since Lacob and Co. bought the team. Maybe the way they have treated their own players during the dynasty will have legs in the future.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#287 » by CS707 » Sun Jun 8, 2025 11:34 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
CS707 wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
LOL, I suggest most of you watch the NBA finals and imagine how fast the old, short, unathletic Warriors would get run off the court!

There are so many current Warriors the Pacers and OKC would just ignore on offense and they would take Curry away. Imagine Draymond at the top of the key without a soul around him waiting for Curry to try to get open. Imagine Podz trying to bring the ball up the court against either one of these teams. Imagine teams just packing the paint and daring Jimmy to shoot from deep.

But yeah, trade JK and all these warts will just go away! :lol:


There is no world where the Warriors are a move or two away from being OKC or the Pacers. We are now where they hope to be in a decade, in the twilight of a dynasty. I don’t really get the angst around how we compare to teams that spent years to finally put a competitive squads together. Even if we blew it up, which is the only way we get to that point again, it’s a several year process. Otherwise you nibble around the edges hoping to stay in the mix and push the inevitable rebuild a little further down the road.


I agree the rebuild will take time unless the Warriors have become an organization that stars look at in a new light since Lacob and Co. bought the team. Maybe the way they have treated their own players during the dynasty will have legs in the future.


I’m also curious about our ability to lure blue chip FAs after the Steph years. Money talks and unfortunately the Bay Area is expensive and not Southern California. It’ll be interesting and not something I’m really looking forward to seeing.
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Post#288 » by vvoland » Mon Jun 9, 2025 12:26 am

CS707 wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
cpower wrote:i suggest most of you watch the NBA finals... Pacers have 6 players that have a better offensive package (more efficient and making offense flow in deep playoffs games) than JK: Haliburton, Nesmith, Toppin, Siakam, Turner and Nembhard... and OKC has 5: SGA, JWill, Hartenstein, Holmgren and Caruso...The league has crazy amount of talent .....overrating our own player and overpaying him is not going to help us...its time to open the eyes and think about the bigger picture


LOL, I suggest most of you watch the NBA finals and imagine how fast the old, short, unathletic Warriors would get run off the court!

There are so many current Warriors the Pacers and OKC would just ignore on offense and they would take Curry away. Imagine Draymond at the top of the key without a soul around him waiting for Curry to try to get open. Imagine Podz trying to bring the ball up the court against either one of these teams. Imagine teams just packing the paint and daring Jimmy to shoot from deep.

But yeah, trade JK and all these warts will just go away! :lol:


There is no world where the Warriors are a move or two away from being OKC or the Pacers. We are now where they hope to be in a decade, in the twilight of a dynasty. I don’t really get the angst around how we compare to teams that spent years to finally put a competitive squads together. Even if we blew it up, which is the only way we get to that point again, it’s a several year process. Otherwise you nibble around the edges hoping to stay in the mix and push the inevitable rebuild a little further down the road.


The warriors have played okc well this year and last. I would have loved to see a healthy warriors play against the thunder in the WCF. I don't see anything from this pacers team to think they're unbeatable or will make the finals again.

My angst comes from our very short window but I have to remind myself that even the youngest teams, like okc, don't have a window longer than 2 years. Even this warriors dynasty, which has been as stable as any, had multiple iterations: the originals, the kd version, and the 21-22 sequel were the three clear delineations. We'll see if we can put the curry/butler/dray version on that same pedestal but it's certainly a very different version to those three. Either way, we're not that far away and if we had sightly better health luck, we could have been right there
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Post#289 » by CS707 » Mon Jun 9, 2025 2:16 am

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whatisacenter wrote:
LOL, I suggest most of you watch the NBA finals and imagine how fast the old, short, unathletic Warriors would get run off the court!

There are so many current Warriors the Pacers and OKC would just ignore on offense and they would take Curry away. Imagine Draymond at the top of the key without a soul around him waiting for Curry to try to get open. Imagine Podz trying to bring the ball up the court against either one of these teams. Imagine teams just packing the paint and daring Jimmy to shoot from deep.

But yeah, trade JK and all these warts will just go away! :lol:


There is no world where the Warriors are a move or two away from being OKC or the Pacers. We are now where they hope to be in a decade, in the twilight of a dynasty. I don’t really get the angst around how we compare to teams that spent years to finally put a competitive squads together. Even if we blew it up, which is the only way we get to that point again, it’s a several year process. Otherwise you nibble around the edges hoping to stay in the mix and push the inevitable rebuild a little further down the road.


The warriors have played okc well this year and last. I would have loved to see a healthy warriors play against the thunder in the WCF. I don't see anything from this pacers team to think they're unbeatable or will make the finals again.

My angst comes from our very short window but I have to remind myself that even the youngest teams, like okc, don't have a window longer than 2 years. Even this warriors dynasty, which has been as stable as any, had multiple iterations: the originals, the kd version, and the 21-22 sequel were the three clear delineations. We'll see if we can put the curry/butler/dray version on that same pedestal but it's certainly a very different version to those three. Either way, we're not that far away and if we had sightly better health luck, we could have been right there


I meant in terms of roster construction. Everyone pines for the group of young, talented players that are still getting paid below market value. That’s just not going to be us without starting over. We’re competitive in our own way but people seem to want something else.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#290 » by superunknown » Mon Jun 9, 2025 2:20 am

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CS707 wrote:
There is no world where the Warriors are a move or two away from being OKC or the Pacers. We are now where they hope to be in a decade, in the twilight of a dynasty. I don’t really get the angst around how we compare to teams that spent years to finally put a competitive squads together. Even if we blew it up, which is the only way we get to that point again, it’s a several year process. Otherwise you nibble around the edges hoping to stay in the mix and push the inevitable rebuild a little further down the road.


The warriors have played okc well this year and last. I would have loved to see a healthy warriors play against the thunder in the WCF. I don't see anything from this pacers team to think they're unbeatable or will make the finals again.

My angst comes from our very short window but I have to remind myself that even the youngest teams, like okc, don't have a window longer than 2 years. Even this warriors dynasty, which has been as stable as any, had multiple iterations: the originals, the kd version, and the 21-22 sequel were the three clear delineations. We'll see if we can put the curry/butler/dray version on that same pedestal but it's certainly a very different version to those three. Either way, we're not that far away and if we had sightly better health luck, we could have been right there


I meant in terms of roster construction. Everyone pines for the group of young, talented players that are still getting paid below market value. That’s just not going to be us without starting over. We’re competitive in our own way but people seem to want something else.


yes, role players that can shoot the 3ball better, at least 1 playable 7 footer and one of the "big3" that is not a liability on offense.
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Post#291 » by DB23 » Mon Jun 9, 2025 2:56 am

CS707 wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
cpower wrote:i suggest most of you watch the NBA finals... Pacers have 6 players that have a better offensive package (more efficient and making offense flow in deep playoffs games) than JK: Haliburton, Nesmith, Toppin, Siakam, Turner and Nembhard... and OKC has 5: SGA, JWill, Hartenstein, Holmgren and Caruso...The league has crazy amount of talent .....overrating our own player and overpaying him is not going to help us...its time to open the eyes and think about the bigger picture


LOL, I suggest most of you watch the NBA finals and imagine how fast the old, short, unathletic Warriors would get run off the court!

There are so many current Warriors the Pacers and OKC would just ignore on offense and they would take Curry away. Imagine Draymond at the top of the key without a soul around him waiting for Curry to try to get open. Imagine Podz trying to bring the ball up the court against either one of these teams. Imagine teams just packing the paint and daring Jimmy to shoot from deep.

But yeah, trade JK and all these warts will just go away! :lol:


There is no world where the Warriors are a move or two away from being OKC or the Pacers. We are now where they hope to be in a decade, in the twilight of a dynasty. I don’t really get the angst around how we compare to teams that spent years to finally put a competitive squads together. Even if we blew it up, which is the only way we get to that point again, it’s a several year process. Otherwise you nibble around the edges hoping to stay in the mix and push the inevitable rebuild a little further down the road.



I don’t agree with this.

Replace moody, podz and kuminga with dort, Caruso and Wallace and we probably beat them. That is to say, our top talent is on par but it falls off a cliff talent wise after dray.

They did great to get butler, but this is the last chance to round out the roster, we need better around the stars.
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Post#292 » by whatisacenter » Mon Jun 9, 2025 4:24 am

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CS707 wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
LOL, I suggest most of you watch the NBA finals and imagine how fast the old, short, unathletic Warriors would get run off the court!

There are so many current Warriors the Pacers and OKC would just ignore on offense and they would take Curry away. Imagine Draymond at the top of the key without a soul around him waiting for Curry to try to get open. Imagine Podz trying to bring the ball up the court against either one of these teams. Imagine teams just packing the paint and daring Jimmy to shoot from deep.

But yeah, trade JK and all these warts will just go away! :lol:


There is no world where the Warriors are a move or two away from being OKC or the Pacers. We are now where they hope to be in a decade, in the twilight of a dynasty. I don’t really get the angst around how we compare to teams that spent years to finally put a competitive squads together. Even if we blew it up, which is the only way we get to that point again, it’s a several year process. Otherwise you nibble around the edges hoping to stay in the mix and push the inevitable rebuild a little further down the road.



I don’t agree with this.

Replace moody, podz and kuminga with dort, Caruso and Wallace and we probably beat them. That is to say, our top talent is on par but it falls off a cliff talent wise after dray.

They did great to get butler, but this is the last chance to round out the roster, we need better around the stars.


The first problem is that Steph, Jimmy and Draymond make too much $$$ to get the players they need to surround them to be a top team.

The second problem is needing those three to stay healthy enough during the regular season to avoid the play-in and then making it through the playoffs at their age.
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Post#293 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Jun 9, 2025 12:10 pm

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There is no world where the Warriors are a move or two away from being OKC or the Pacers. We are now where they hope to be in a decade, in the twilight of a dynasty. I don’t really get the angst around how we compare to teams that spent years to finally put a competitive squads together. Even if we blew it up, which is the only way we get to that point again, it’s a several year process. Otherwise you nibble around the edges hoping to stay in the mix and push the inevitable rebuild a little further down the road.



I don’t agree with this.

Replace moody, podz and kuminga with dort, Caruso and Wallace and we probably beat them. That is to say, our top talent is on par but it falls off a cliff talent wise after dray.

They did great to get butler, but this is the last chance to round out the roster, we need better around the stars.


The first problem is that Steph, Jimmy and Draymond make too much $$$ to get the players they need to surround them to be a top team.

The second problem is needing those three to stay healthy enough during the regular season to avoid the play-in and then making it through the playoffs at their age.


Sga is getting paid peanuts compared to production. 38M/year? Sheesh. Jimmy just got close to double that and is more than 10 years older.

Secondly, Okc have their 2nd and best players on rookie contracts. We have kuminga (who wants sga money), moody, tjd, Santos, and podz. With pofz being the only one outplaying his salary (but still not a top end contributor).
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Post#294 » by Onus » Mon Jun 9, 2025 12:49 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
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There is no world where the Warriors are a move or two away from being OKC or the Pacers. We are now where they hope to be in a decade, in the twilight of a dynasty. I don’t really get the angst around how we compare to teams that spent years to finally put a competitive squads together. Even if we blew it up, which is the only way we get to that point again, it’s a several year process. Otherwise you nibble around the edges hoping to stay in the mix and push the inevitable rebuild a little further down the road.



I don’t agree with this.

Replace moody, podz and kuminga with dort, Caruso and Wallace and we probably beat them. That is to say, our top talent is on par but it falls off a cliff talent wise after dray.

They did great to get butler, but this is the last chance to round out the roster, we need better around the stars.


The first problem is that Steph, Jimmy and Draymond make too much $$$ to get the players they need to surround them to be a top team.

The second problem is needing those three to stay healthy enough during the regular season to avoid the play-in and then making it through the playoffs at their age.

Steph is still a top 10 player. Jimmy is a top 10 player at his position. Draymond was all defensive team. Yea Jimmy is over paid but the main issue is that moody and jk are barely rotation level players in year 4. Like if jk would just focus on the role he can actually play like Chet or j dub. I’ll give moody a pass since he had to get surgery. We’d be in a much better spot and you wouldn’t be thinking we need another wing.
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Post#295 » by ChuckDurn » Mon Jun 9, 2025 2:50 pm

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whatisacenter wrote:
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I don’t agree with this.

Replace moody, podz and kuminga with dort, Caruso and Wallace and we probably beat them. That is to say, our top talent is on par but it falls off a cliff talent wise after dray.

They did great to get butler, but this is the last chance to round out the roster, we need better around the stars.


The first problem is that Steph, Jimmy and Draymond make too much $$$ to get the players they need to surround them to be a top team.

The second problem is needing those three to stay healthy enough during the regular season to avoid the play-in and then making it through the playoffs at their age.

Steph is still a top 10 player. Jimmy is a top 10 player at his position. Draymond was all defensive team. Yea Jimmy is over paid but the main issue is that moody and jk are barely rotation level players in year 4. Like if jk would just focus on the role he can actually play like Chet or j dub. I’ll give moody a pass since he had to get surgery. We’d be in a much better spot and you wouldn’t be thinking we need another wing.

Yeah, I’d be curious to get some reporting (or maybe I missed it) as to when Moody hurt his thumb. Through most of the season, he was fantastic, talked about as a building block for the future, perfect 3-and-D role player, etc….. then he basically became nearly unplayable, because he couldn’t hit a shot, and we find out after-the-fact that his thumb was dinged up. If we find out that he hurt his thumb right at when he dropped off, we should basically disregard the terrible end of the season and assume that he’s the solid 3-and-D guy who is a comfortable value, rather than everybody just remembering the last 15-20 games, which were the anomaly, and assuming he’s going to be gone.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#296 » by Onus » Mon Jun 9, 2025 3:51 pm

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The first problem is that Steph, Jimmy and Draymond make too much $$$ to get the players they need to surround them to be a top team.

The second problem is needing those three to stay healthy enough during the regular season to avoid the play-in and then making it through the playoffs at their age.

Steph is still a top 10 player. Jimmy is a top 10 player at his position. Draymond was all defensive team. Yea Jimmy is over paid but the main issue is that moody and jk are barely rotation level players in year 4. Like if jk would just focus on the role he can actually play like Chet or j dub. I’ll give moody a pass since he had to get surgery. We’d be in a much better spot and you wouldn’t be thinking we need another wing.

Yeah, I’d be curious to get some reporting (or maybe I missed it) as to when Moody hurt his thumb. Through most of the season, he was fantastic, talked about as a building block for the future, perfect 3-and-D role player, etc….. then he basically became nearly unplayable, because he couldn’t hit a shot, and we find out after-the-fact that his thumb was dinged up. If we find out that he hurt his thumb right at when he dropped off, we should basically disregard the terrible end of the season and assume that he’s the solid 3-and-D guy who is a comfortable value, rather than everybody just remembering the last 15-20 games, which were the anomaly, and assuming he’s going to be gone.

Yea his shot just abandoned him. I think the problem is that when the game didn't matter like the blow out loss @Houston, he thrived but then once it mattered again his shot was gone, which is why I thought it was just a mental issue. But it being a physical issue definitely makes it seem something he can work through once he gets healthy. Like he's our best perimeter defender moving forward and we'll need him to be capable of making shots.

With JK coming back our options to improve are going to be limited to just the TPMLE unless we trade Moody + Buddy or Dray as salary fillers, which seems unlikely. So probably 1 rotation player hopefully with the TPMLE and the rest will probably be vet mins and #41. Will need internal growth from JK, finding a role with Jimmy, and Dray, Moody, Podz, and Post.

I do think JK can fit with Jimmy + Dray. Just need to find the right role for everyone.

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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#297 » by vvoland » Mon Jun 9, 2025 4:51 pm

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Onus wrote:Steph is still a top 10 player. Jimmy is a top 10 player at his position. Draymond was all defensive team. Yea Jimmy is over paid but the main issue is that moody and jk are barely rotation level players in year 4. Like if jk would just focus on the role he can actually play like Chet or j dub. I’ll give moody a pass since he had to get surgery. We’d be in a much better spot and you wouldn’t be thinking we need another wing.

Yeah, I’d be curious to get some reporting (or maybe I missed it) as to when Moody hurt his thumb. Through most of the season, he was fantastic, talked about as a building block for the future, perfect 3-and-D role player, etc….. then he basically became nearly unplayable, because he couldn’t hit a shot, and we find out after-the-fact that his thumb was dinged up. If we find out that he hurt his thumb right at when he dropped off, we should basically disregard the terrible end of the season and assume that he’s the solid 3-and-D guy who is a comfortable value, rather than everybody just remembering the last 15-20 games, which were the anomaly, and assuming he’s going to be gone.

Yea his shot just abandoned him. I think the problem is that when the game didn't matter like the blow out loss @Houston, he thrived but then once it mattered again his shot was gone, which is why I thought it was just a mental issue. But it being a physical issue definitely makes it seem something he can work through once he gets healthy. Like he's our best perimeter defender moving forward and we'll need him to be capable of making shots.

With JK coming back our options to improve are going to be limited to just the NTMLE unless we trade Moody + Buddy or Dray as salary fillers, which seems unlikely. So probably 1 rotation player hopefully with the NTMLE and the rest will probably be vet mins and #41. Will need internal growth from JK, finding a role with Jimmy, and Dray, Moody, Podz, and Post.

I do think JK can fit with Jimmy + Dray. Just need to find the right role for everyone.



I'd agree with most of the above except to mention the ankle hurt JK's end of the season/playoffs as much, if not more, than moody's thumb hurt his shooting. There is reason for optimism for both. With Podz's wrist surgery, it really may have been a nightmarish finish to the year, in terms of health.

We're definitely going to be a Taxpayer MLE team, not a NTMLE, but I assume you just mixed up the acronym.
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Post#298 » by Onus » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:03 pm

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ChuckDurn wrote:Yeah, I’d be curious to get some reporting (or maybe I missed it) as to when Moody hurt his thumb. Through most of the season, he was fantastic, talked about as a building block for the future, perfect 3-and-D role player, etc….. then he basically became nearly unplayable, because he couldn’t hit a shot, and we find out after-the-fact that his thumb was dinged up. If we find out that he hurt his thumb right at when he dropped off, we should basically disregard the terrible end of the season and assume that he’s the solid 3-and-D guy who is a comfortable value, rather than everybody just remembering the last 15-20 games, which were the anomaly, and assuming he’s going to be gone.

Yea his shot just abandoned him. I think the problem is that when the game didn't matter like the blow out loss @Houston, he thrived but then once it mattered again his shot was gone, which is why I thought it was just a mental issue. But it being a physical issue definitely makes it seem something he can work through once he gets healthy. Like he's our best perimeter defender moving forward and we'll need him to be capable of making shots.

With JK coming back our options to improve are going to be limited to just the NTMLE unless we trade Moody + Buddy or Dray as salary fillers, which seems unlikely. So probably 1 rotation player hopefully with the NTMLE and the rest will probably be vet mins and #41. Will need internal growth from JK, finding a role with Jimmy, and Dray, Moody, Podz, and Post.

I do think JK can fit with Jimmy + Dray. Just need to find the right role for everyone.



I'd agree with most of the above except to mention the ankle hurt JK's end of the season/playoffs as much, if not more, than moody's thumb hurt his shooting. There is reason for optimism for both. With Podz's wrist surgery, it really may have been a nightmarish finish to the year, in terms of health.

We're definitely going to be a Taxpayer MLE team, not a NTMLE, but I assume you just mixed up the acronym.

Agreed. JK's injury really derailed his season just as he was putting everything together.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#299 » by EvanZ » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:04 am

I heard Walker Kessler might be on the trade block. I wonder if there’s a world where Kuminga goes there and we somehow get him in a S&T. Kessler isn’t the floor spacer obviously but he literally lead the league in offensive rebounding and does all the things we like in traditional centers.
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Post#300 » by CS707 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:34 am

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LOL, I suggest most of you watch the NBA finals and imagine how fast the old, short, unathletic Warriors would get run off the court!

There are so many current Warriors the Pacers and OKC would just ignore on offense and they would take Curry away. Imagine Draymond at the top of the key without a soul around him waiting for Curry to try to get open. Imagine Podz trying to bring the ball up the court against either one of these teams. Imagine teams just packing the paint and daring Jimmy to shoot from deep.

But yeah, trade JK and all these warts will just go away! :lol:


There is no world where the Warriors are a move or two away from being OKC or the Pacers. We are now where they hope to be in a decade, in the twilight of a dynasty. I don’t really get the angst around how we compare to teams that spent years to finally put a competitive squads together. Even if we blew it up, which is the only way we get to that point again, it’s a several year process. Otherwise you nibble around the edges hoping to stay in the mix and push the inevitable rebuild a little further down the road.



I don’t agree with this.

Replace moody, podz and kuminga with dort, Caruso and Wallace and we probably beat them. That is to say, our top talent is on par but it falls off a cliff talent wise after dray.

They did great to get butler, but this is the last chance to round out the roster, we need better around the stars.


What’s your pathway for obtaining Dort, Caruso, and Wallace type players? One is a guy OKC spent several years developing and is on a great contract relative to his contribution, another a top 10 pick, the 3rd is someone we actually tried to trade for and got denied. We’ve got the assets to add maybe one of those type players. OKC spent years tanking and tinkering to put together that team while the Warriors have been trying to win titles. It’s just two different trajectories.

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