Spurs could be scary with KD.

[Chuck Everett]

Just on record as saying it won't go well if they trade for him. Dude is a cancer.

[GeorgeSears]

They could be scary with Giannis too.

[sp6r=underrated]

Just on record as saying it won't go well if they trade for him. Dude is a cancer.

Exactly, he reminds me of Shaq. Their personalities are different but both had defects. Teams benefited from them in their glory years despite the defects but as their talent declined the value collapsed. This is different than a lot of all-time greats who still maintained value even after their glory days were fully gone.

[ball_takes23]

Just on record as saying it won't go well if they trade for him. Dude is a cancer.

Exactly, he reminds me of Shaq. Their personalities are different but both had defects. Teams benefited from them in their glory years despite the defects but as their talent declined the value collapsed. This is different than a lot of all-time greats who still maintained value even after their glory days were fully gone.

you guys are both taking blame that should be on the Suns horrific management and pinning it on KD, there's not another player in the league that would be successful in the situation KD is currently in right now. The blame for the Suns current situation is like 95% on Matt Ishbia, they were always going to be a disaster from the second he took over the team, regardless of whether he traded for KD or any other star.

[LAvision]

Just on record as saying it won't go well if they trade for him. Dude is a cancer.

It’s like how many times does he have to do the same thing for people get this?

[Johnny Tomala]

They shouldn't trade for KD. I wouldn't trade for old, often injured KD tbh. I wouldn't be surprised if he stays at Phoenix cause nobody will give up anything decent for him.

[sp6r=underrated]

you guys are both taking blame that should be on the Suns horrific management and pinning it on KD

Suns management is bad. They gave up a lot for Kevin Durant which was a bad idea and then they listened to Durant that Beale was a good idea.

[ConSarnit]

If he is your 3rd best player, great… but the question is, would he be the 3rd best player on the Spurs? I don’t think so. Until he is, the Spurs can be considered a good team. The onus is on Fox, Castle and potentially Harper to be the 2nd banana.

I don’t see how KD isn’t a great 2nd banana. By all accounts he’s still a good 1st banana.

He averaged 27/6/4 on 64 TS%. The only volume scorer who was more efficient was Jokic. The Suns went 3-17 without KD this year.

The only questionable part of KD’s game is availability. The Spurs should be able to mitigate the load on KD with Fox and Wemby picking up the slack.

KD’s on court production is still very good.

You don’t get it… if he is your 1st or 2nd best player at age 37, that means your team sucks. The Spurs have a lot of holes in their team and yes, he fills a few of them. My point is that I believe , if he ends up being the 2nd best player on the Spurs next season, it will result in disappointment. The mileage and injury history variable is real and if he are being honest, wemby has health issues as well. If the spurs can trade for him and give up some picks and basically filler I am all for it but i would temper my expectations. I would want someone step up more than trading for KD.

Think about how many teams would be better if they added KD as their #2. I am talking about giving up Barnes/Vassell/14 for KD. That is a massive upgrade that retains the vast majority of the Spurs assets for a future move (if one presents itself). Fox/KD/Wemby is the highest upside for the Spurs for next season barring a trade for a Giannis level player. KD is still an all-NBA level player. On the Spurs he wouldn’t be the best player and it’s crazy to me that you think KD couldn’t be a #2 on a good playoff team. I feel like you’re conflating KD with the god awful job PHX has done building around him and Booker. PHX built a team that didn’t even have a starter quality player at 2 positions (pg and c). As I said before if you want proof of KD’s value, look at PHX record without him: 3-17.

[ConSarnit]

you guys are both taking blame that should be on the Suns horrific management and pinning it on KD

Suns management is bad. They gave up a lot for Kevin Durant which was a bad idea and then they listened to Durant that Beale was a good idea.

I mean there’s a pretty simple solution for that if you’re the Spurs: you tell KD he doesn’t get roster input. Pop’s voice carries a lot more weight than James Jones when it comes to telling KD no. If KD doesn’t like it you don’t trade for him. The Spurs are one the few organizations who garner enough respect to tell a star “no” when it comes to roster input.

[One Last Shot]

Just on record as saying it won't go well if they trade for him. Dude is a cancer.

Exactly, he reminds me of Shaq. Their personalities are different but both had defects. Teams benefited from them in their glory years despite the defects but as their talent declined the value collapsed. This is different than a lot of all-time greats who still maintained value even after their glory days were fully gone.

you guys are both taking blame that should be on the Suns horrific management and pinning it on KD, there's not another player in the league that would be successful in the situation KD is currently in right now. The blame for the Suns current situation is like 95% on Matt Ishbia, they were always going to be a disaster from the second he took over the team, regardless of whether he traded for KD or any other star.

Jokic with this Suns squad minus Durant might win a playoffs series or 2 at the very least. They took OKC to game 7 with only 3-4 healthy NBA-caliber players this playoffs.

[ball_takes23]

you guys are both taking blame that should be on the Suns horrific management and pinning it on KD

Suns management is bad. They gave up a lot for Kevin Durant which was a bad idea and then they listened to Durant that Beale was a good idea.

the fact that one really bad GM overpaid for a star does not mean that paying an appropriate amount for that same star is a bad idea. I don't know why that's so complicated for people to understand.

[sp6r=underrated]

you tell KD he doesn’t get roster input.

There is no reason to think Durant will accept this given his behavior this decade.

[Chuck Everett]

you tell KD he doesn’t get roster input.

There is no reason to think Durant will accept this given his behavior this decade.

Pretty much in agreement. Why would it be different now? Because "he likes Wemby?" He's not worth the headache anytime it gets shaky. He's also going to miss a ton of time. Why not try to get younger players who are good?

[G R E Y]

you tell KD he doesn’t get roster input.

There is no reason to think Durant will accept this given his behavior this decade.

Well Fox was 1/1A previously and in coming here understands we revolve around Wemby. Any player not accepting that won't be here. It's really that simple. KD and Spurs reportedly have mutual interest. It can't be lost on KD that we are not building around him but he is added around Wemby.

[KGDirkTD_Fan]

Am I the only one who has no idea what team makes sense to trade for KD? Established playoff teams aren't going to give up assets/cap space to bring him and young teams who need vets probably need different kind of vet.

I see folks mentioning teams like Spurs, Rockets and Magic and I can only say "why?".

[Courant]

Think about how many teams would be better if they added KD as their #2. I am talking about giving up Barnes/Vassell/14 for KD. That is a massive upgrade that retains the vast majority of the Spurs' assets for a future move (if one presents itself).

I'm sorry, but there is no way Phoenix -- a team that does not control its first-round picks until 2031 -- is going into a rebuild by trading Kevin Durant for a player who is best suited as a sixth man (Devin Vassell), a spare part (Harrison Barnes) and only one first-round pick (No. 14 overall, 2025). I can see Phoenix taking those assets back for Bradley Beal, but not for Durant, who is still one of the top players in the game.

Here is a more realistic trade:

San Antonio gets: Kevin Durant and Cody Martin
Phoenix gets: De'Aaron Fox, Jeremy Sochan, No. 14 pick in 2025, Atlanta's 2027 unconditional first-round pick and the better of the 2030 first-round pick swaps between Dallas and Minnesota.

Phoenix almost certainly will ask San Antonio for Fox in a Durant trade, and San Antonio gladly will trade him. Phoenix desperately needs a point guard to pair with Devin Booker, and the emergence of NBA Rookie of the Year Stephon Castle as the Spurs' point guard makes Fox redundant. Like Durant, Fox has only one more year on his current deal; the trade puts Phoenix on the clock to re-sign him. San Antonio still maintains a lot of its future first-round draft pick capital while adding a major scorer and closer that will keep teams honest.

[ConSarnit]

Am I the only one who has no idea what team makes sense to trade for KD? Established playoff teams aren't going to give up assets/cap space to bring him and young teams who need vets probably need different kind of vet.

I see folks mentioning teams like Spurs, Rockets and Magic and I can only say "why?".

Why is it hard to understand, especially if the price is right? We just watched HOU get eliminated because they couldn’t generate enough offense. SAS has Wemby on a rookie deal for 2 more seasons which gives them to flexibility to take on Durant and his contract. The Magic are one of worst offensive teams in the league and are at a point where they want to actually make noise on the playoffs. DEN (who probably doesn’t have the assets) is trying to compete with 2 inconsistent #2/3 options (Murray and Porter Jr).

For the vast majority of playoff teams KD is an upgrade as a 2nd option (and probably as a 1st option for many too). The guy is still an elite scorer who doesn’t take anything off the table.

If Giannis doesn’t get moved KD is going to be the best player available on the trade market.

[ConSarnit]

Think about how many teams would be better if they added KD as their #2. I am talking about giving up Barnes/Vassell/14 for KD. That is a massive upgrade that retains the vast majority of the Spurs' assets for a future move (if one presents itself).

I'm sorry, but there is no way Phoenix -- a team that does not control its first-round picks until 2031 -- is going into a rebuild by trading Kevin Durant for a player who is best suited as a sixth man (Devin Vassell), a spare part (Harrison Barnes) and only one first-round pick (No. 14 overall, 2025). I can see Phoenix taking those assets back for Bradley Beal, but not for Durant, who is still one of the top players in the game.

Here is a more realistic trade:

San Antonio gets: Kevin Durant and Cody Martin
Phoenix gets: De'Aaron Fox, Jeremy Sochan, No. 14 pick in 2025, Atlanta's 2027 unconditional first-round pick and the better of the 2030 first-round pick swaps between Dallas and Minnesota.

Phoenix almost certainly will ask San Antonio for Fox in a Durant trade, and San Antonio gladly will trade him. Phoenix desperately needs a point guard to pair with Devin Booker, and the emergence of NBA Rookie of the Year Stephon Castle as the Spurs' point guard makes Fox redundant. Like Durant, Fox has only one more year on his current deal; the trade puts Phoenix on the clock to re-sign him. San Antonio still maintains a lot of its future first-round draft pick capital while adding a major scorer and closer that will keep teams honest.

I’ll agree that it might not get Durant. I could see a situation where his price could be high.

That said, it’s delusional to think PHX could get that type of return for Beal. He’s one of the worst contracts in the league. The Suns would have to pay to dump Beal. Zero chance they are getting a starter and a lotto pick for Beal.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Just on record as saying it won't go well if they trade for him. Dude is a cancer.

On one hand I agree, on the other hand I'd want Wemby to see how he practices.

[JujitsuFlip]

Think about how many teams would be better if they added KD as their #2. I am talking about giving up Barnes/Vassell/14 for KD. That is a massive upgrade that retains the vast majority of the Spurs' assets for a future move (if one presents itself).

I'm sorry, but there is no way Phoenix -- a team that does not control its first-round picks until 2031 -- is going into a rebuild by trading Kevin Durant for a player who is best suited as a sixth man (Devin Vassell), a spare part (Harrison Barnes) and only one first-round pick (No. 14 overall, 2025). I can see Phoenix taking those assets back for Bradley Beal, but not for Durant, who is still one of the top players in the game.

Here is a more realistic trade:

San Antonio gets: Kevin Durant and Cody Martin
Phoenix gets: De'Aaron Fox, Jeremy Sochan, No. 14 pick in 2025, Atlanta's 2027 unconditional first-round pick and the better of the 2030 first-round pick swaps between Dallas and Minnesota.

Phoenix almost certainly will ask San Antonio for Fox in a Durant trade, and San Antonio gladly will trade him. Phoenix desperately needs a point guard to pair with Devin Booker, and the emergence of NBA Rookie of the Year Stephon Castle as the Spurs' point guard makes Fox redundant. Like Durant, Fox has only one more year on his current deal; the trade puts Phoenix on the clock to re-sign him. San Antonio still maintains a lot of its future first-round draft pick capital while adding a major scorer and closer that will keep teams honest.

Kevin Durant is 37 years old and on an expiring contract... The Spurs are not trading Fox and 3 first round picks for him, period.

If that's the asking price, the Spurs hangup and go about their day. KD needs the Spurs, the Spurs do not need KD.

Nico Harrison runs a team in Texas but it's not the Spurs lmaooooooo