BlazersBroncos wrote:I’d rather flip the script now. Trade down with OKC, ship Simons to Orlando for 16, walk out of this draft with three first-round swings and let the kids scrap for minutes. Real competition is the best developmental tool we have, and it’s the only shot we get at stumbling into a real star before the payroll calcifies around a mediocre core and we end up the Magic of the west.
I cant see 3 FRP on the roster next season. If we trade down w/ OKC that #24 pick should be going to CHI to get our pick returned IMO.
I would be fine with trading down if Noa is gone (And I think its VERY likely he is gone by 11). He is the only guy I really see as a potential needle moving swing. I am not sold on Bryant being THAT much better a prospect than someone like Penda for example. I despise CMB and Queen's player profile. Kasparas I would think long and hard about taking 11 but then again is it a smart use of 11 to take Kasparas when guys like Hugo, Saraf and Clayton are mocked 25-30? Newell is a guy you look at and say, he would be a nice fit if he could consistently shoot. But even his high end outcome isnt something to brag about. I see a position locked PF who hustles well and MIGHT be a passable 3PT shooter.
Demin I just cant buy in. He is a great passer, especially swinging the ball from 1 side to another. But the Giddey comps are lazy AF. He isnt nearly the 'get to my spot' talent that Josh is - honestly he is about as opposite to Giddey as one could get in that regard. He doesnt have the athleticism, twitch or 1st step to get around his man and he doesnt have the savant like stop/start/wiggle/balance/etc that guys like Giddey use to compensate for meh athleticism. He is a tall guy with a nice handle, excellent passing, a jumper that doesnt look that bad but has never really connected at any level, questions on who he guards and nothing to write home on at attacking the rim. I see Marko Jaric - 10pts / 5-6ast type.
The guy that I see and say, there isnt a comparable talent later than 11 is and has been for a while Essengue. Ideally I would come out of the draft with Noa, Clayton and our PDX FRP returned. I am falling for Clayton the more I watch him. Think he has a high floor and is a guaranteed bench shooter but could see him surprising and having a FVV like career.
In another post today I already floated the trade-one-for-ours-back-from-Chicago-scenario and that's probably the most logical move, BUT I'm greedy and we need cheap talent now.
I keep toggling between Clifford and Coward. With Egor you’re praying the jumper comes around; with Coward you’re banking on mid-major numbers holding up against NBA length. Clifford is plug-and-play: 20–25 minutes right away, no real holes, and the “he’s 23” knock is pointless—outside of Flagg he’s the most rounded guy in the class. He defends, rebounds, initiates, posts smaller guards, throws highlight passes, and the shot is fine once you average out the hot-cold nights. Take him at 11 and call it good.
Coward is the swing. If his stats translate he’s baby Kawhi or PG; if not, he’s still Covington or Evan Turner with a perfect jumper and freakish length. Tempting, but Clifford is the safer bet. Either way, I will be happy if we land at least one of them and so will Blazer fans be while we're in the playoffs next year.
The perfect follow-up is Walter Clayton Jr. If we flip Simons to Orlando for pick 16, we can grab WCJ—floor of Pritchard/VanVleet, ceiling of mini-Dame or Jamal Murray. Give him a year and he might push Scoot for the starting job. Orlando needs a proven 20-ppg guard, we need that extra pick. If we hesitate, Presti will snag both Coward/Clifford and Clayton and turn them into the next OKC success story while they run it back for their second ring.
STARTERS
PG Scoot Henderson
SG Shaedon Sharpe
SF Toumani Camara
PF Deni Avdija
C Deandre Ayton
SECOND UNIT
PG Walter Clayton Jr. (#16)
SG Nique Clifford (#11)
SF Matisse Thybulle
PF Jerami Grant
C Donovan Clingan
DEEP BENCH / DEVELOPMENT
PG Rayan Rupert (combo guard reps)
W Kris Murray
W Jabari Walker
F Jonathan Isaac (non-guaranteed flyer / small-ball rim-protector)
C Robert Williams III (minutes ramp up as health allows)
C Duop Reath (third-string stretch five)