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Post#323 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:20 pm

I’ll say it again. We fired Thibs with no real plan in place.
A lot of moving parts would have to work in the Knicks’ favor in order to make Jason Kidd their next head coach. There’s nothing wrong with targeting an employed head coach for their vacant position. Due diligence is good. It just seems a little odd that it appears to be Plan A.

The Knicks have backed themselves into a corner between the firing of Thibodeau and this upcoming hire. They’ve made it clear that what the winningest coach in recent franchise history did wasn’t good enough to reach their ultimate goal of a championship. It’ll be tough for New York’s suits to win the headlines and backpages with the next head coach, unless they have something up their sleeves, which is totally possible.

Until the big reveal, though, the Knicks appear to be in limbo. No available coach is an obvious upgrade or change of pace from Thibodeau. Getting a proven coach from another team seems far-fetched. Hiring an inexperienced or first-year head coach, while it might end up being the right decision a year from now, is a difficult sell to fans who now have heightened expectations after several successful seasons and based on the franchise’s own language following the firing of Thibodeau.
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Post#324 » by Gravy » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:22 pm

So when does the "smokescreen" become uh oh they are for real...
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Gravy wrote:So when does the "smokescreen" become uh oh they are for real...


We’re getting pretty close tbh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’ll give it until end of week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post#326 » by GONYK » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:31 pm

What is the rush exactly? No other team is looking for a coach.
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Post#327 » by Knicksfan1992 » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:40 pm

GONYK wrote:What is the rush exactly? No other team is looking for a coach.


Yeah, overall, I'm not exactly sure what people expected.

Last time this regime hired a coach they interviewed an obnoxious amount of candidates. I don't think that is exactly going to change here especially when there is essentially zero competition for them.

I guess the difference is the media had a presumed favorite, in Thibs, last time we went through this process and now they don't really have one yet. Also we had a deep playoff run and less time before the draft and FA this time around. Still I don't think any of those factors is going to cause them to be less thorough just maybe a bit more expedited.

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Post#328 » by Wildcat » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:44 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:I’ll say it again. We fired Thibs with no real plan in place.
A lot of moving parts would have to work in the Knicks’ favor in order to make Jason Kidd their next head coach. There’s nothing wrong with targeting an employed head coach for their vacant position. Due diligence is good. It just seems a little odd that it appears to be Plan A.

The Knicks have backed themselves into a corner between the firing of Thibodeau and this upcoming hire. They’ve made it clear that what the winningest coach in recent franchise history did wasn’t good enough to reach their ultimate goal of a championship. It’ll be tough for New York’s suits to win the headlines and backpages with the next head coach, unless they have something up their sleeves, which is totally possible.

Until the big reveal, though, the Knicks appear to be in limbo. No available coach is an obvious upgrade or change of pace from Thibodeau. Getting a proven coach from another team seems far-fetched. Hiring an inexperienced or first-year head coach, while it might end up being the right decision a year from now, is a difficult sell to fans who now have heightened expectations after several successful seasons and based on the franchise’s own language following the firing of Thibodeau.


Respectfully, I wish this dude get reassigned off the Knicks. I don't like him, or his style. Very fear mongering.

As far as the FO is concerned, I'm not falling into this BS narrative there was "no plan". Thibs needed to go, we all (mostly) agreed on that. And bringing someone to run offense wasn't going to be an option. Thibs' too stubborn for that. I believe there's a Plan A/B/C/D/E/F. The team that's infamous for keeping secrets is suddenly a leaking boat? Postseason still underway, there's no rush to "settle" on someone. Team doing their due diligence. Though, it'd be a bad look if we don't have a coach by draft.
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Post#329 » by Capn'O » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:45 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:I’ll say it again. We fired Thibs with no real plan in place.


That's usually how firings work. You fire a guy or gal because they're no longer working for whatever reason. Then you search for the new guy or gal. Initiating a search process literally is the plan.

It sounds like in this case there was a process to gain full input as to whether Thibs was still working out. You clearly don't like the results of that process but this isn't some unusual thing like firing a coach of a playoff team right before the playoffs, which two teams did this year. That was wild.
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Post#330 » by Gravy » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:49 pm

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Gravy wrote:So when does the "smokescreen" become uh oh they are for real...


We’re getting pretty close tbh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’ll give it until end of week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post#332 » by sol537 » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:52 pm

GONYK wrote:What is the rush exactly? No other team is looking for a coach.


Exactly. Get the right guy not the guy we can sign tomorrow.

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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#333 » by Wildcat » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:53 pm

Gravy wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
Gravy wrote:So when does the "smokescreen" become uh oh they are for real...


We’re getting pretty close tbh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’ll give it until end of week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Knicks decided to move on from Thibodeau — a decision that The Athletic reported after the Knicks’ season ended was in the hands of owner James Dolan — during a coaching cycle that isn’t overflowing with heavily experienced, successful head coaches


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Post#334 » by Capn'O » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:53 pm

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The Knicks decided to move on from Thibodeau — a decision that The Athletic reported after the Knicks’ season ended was in the hands of owner James Dolan — during a coaching cycle that isn’t overflowing with heavily experienced, successful head coaches


I'm sorry, but WHAT? Two of the last five championship coaches are in this pool as well as another guy (Jenkins) who was consistently bringing his squad to the playoffs under great turmoil and plenty of other guys with experience. Hell, you could even bring Terry Stotts in for a run as this squad is like a souped up version of the Aldridge/Lillard Blazers.
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Post#335 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Jun 9, 2025 6:07 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:I’ll say it again. We fired Thibs with no real plan in place.


That's usually how firings work. You fire a guy or gal because they're no longer working for whatever reason. Then you search for the new guy or gal. Initiating a hiring process literally is the plan.

It sounds like in this case there was a process to gain full input as to whether Thibs was still working out. You clearly don't like the results of that process but this isn't some unusual thing like firing a coach of a playoff team right before the playoffs, which two teams did this year. That was wild.

It’s not just me though. It’s around the league that feels the same way.

Among the first reactions I heard via representatives from rival teams — once they digested the shock — was the oft-repeated notion that the Knicks have to have a replacement lined up if they were prepared to dump the coach who brought them their first sustained success of the 21st century.

All initial indications, however, suggested that the Knicks do not have a locked-in succession plan.
Which only added to the shock.

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Post#336 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Jun 9, 2025 6:12 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:I’ll say it again. We fired Thibs with no real plan in place.
A lot of moving parts would have to work in the Knicks’ favor in order to make Jason Kidd their next head coach. There’s nothing wrong with targeting an employed head coach for their vacant position. Due diligence is good. It just seems a little odd that it appears to be Plan A.

The Knicks have backed themselves into a corner between the firing of Thibodeau and this upcoming hire. They’ve made it clear that what the winningest coach in recent franchise history did wasn’t good enough to reach their ultimate goal of a championship. It’ll be tough for New York’s suits to win the headlines and backpages with the next head coach, unless they have something up their sleeves, which is totally possible.

Until the big reveal, though, the Knicks appear to be in limbo. No available coach is an obvious upgrade or change of pace from Thibodeau. Getting a proven coach from another team seems far-fetched. Hiring an inexperienced or first-year head coach, while it might end up being the right decision a year from now, is a difficult sell to fans who now have heightened expectations after several successful seasons and based on the franchise’s own language following the firing of Thibodeau.


Respectfully, I wish this dude get reassigned off the Knicks. I don't like him, or his style. Very fear mongering.

As far as the FO is concerned, I'm not falling into this BS narrative there was "no plan". Thibs needed to go, we all (mostly) agreed on that. And bringing someone to run offense wasn't going to be an option. Thibs' too stubborn for that. I believe there's a Plan A/B/C/D/E/F. The team that's infamous for keeping secrets is suddenly a leaking boat? Postseason still underway, there's no rush to "settle" on someone. Team doing their due diligence. Though, it'd be a bad look if we don't have a coach by draft.

How is your plan A to get Jason Kidd.. who doesn’t want to leave the Mavs and the Mavs won’t even give us permission. That’s what’s confusing me.
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Post#337 » by Capn'O » Mon Jun 9, 2025 6:19 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:I’ll say it again. We fired Thibs with no real plan in place.


That's usually how firings work. You fire a guy or gal because they're no longer working for whatever reason. Then you search for the new guy or gal. Initiating a hiring process literally is the plan.

It sounds like in this case there was a process to gain full input as to whether Thibs was still working out. You clearly don't like the results of that process but this isn't some unusual thing like firing a coach of a playoff team right before the playoffs, which two teams did this year. That was wild.

It’s not just me though. It’s around the league that feels the same way.

Among the first reactions I heard via representatives from rival teams — once they digested the shock — was the oft-repeated notion that the Knicks have to have a replacement lined up if they were prepared to dump the coach who brought them their first sustained success of the 21st century.

All initial indications, however, suggested that the Knicks do not have a locked-in succession plan.
Which only added to the shock.



That's how some teams operate but that's not how the Knicks have ever operated. Any time we've had a coaching vacancy we've done a search, including when we hired Thibodeau. This is particularly the case because it sounds like the Knicks weren't certain about firing him until they conducted player interviews, meaning they just recently made the determination vs. having benchmarks he had to reach to stay. We weren't conducting a search in the background while he was still coach - which is actually respectful - and we have the whole summer to do it. There are actually a ton of guys out there right now and they're looking into who could become available as well.

Nothing really smells off about the process. It's the firing of Thibs itself that people don't like.
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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#338 » by Wildcat » Mon Jun 9, 2025 6:21 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Wildcat wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I’ll say it again. We fired Thibs with no real plan in place.


Respectfully, I wish this dude get reassigned off the Knicks. I don't like him, or his style. Very fear mongering.

As far as the FO is concerned, I'm not falling into this BS narrative there was "no plan". Thibs needed to go, we all (mostly) agreed on that. And bringing someone to run offense wasn't going to be an option. Thibs' too stubborn for that. I believe there's a Plan A/B/C/D/E/F. The team that's infamous for keeping secrets is suddenly a leaking boat? Postseason still underway, there's no rush to "settle" on someone. Team doing their due diligence. Though, it'd be a bad look if we don't have a coach by draft.

How is your plan A to get Jason Kidd.. who doesn’t want to leave the Mavs and the Mavs won’t even give us permission. That’s what’s confusing me.


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Post#339 » by Fury » Mon Jun 9, 2025 6:23 pm

Wildcat wrote:
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We’re getting pretty close tbh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’ll give it until end of week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Knicks decided to move on from Thibodeau — a decision that The Athletic reported after the Knicks’ season ended was in the hands of owner James Dolan — during a coaching cycle that isn’t overflowing with heavily experienced, successful head coaches


Yeah, I miss Katz. This dude sucks. Send him back to the Pistons.


He lost me when he made a video about why the Knicks won't come back from a 3-1 deficit vs the Pacers. I mean, yeah they probably won't but just be neutral and report tidibits, man.
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