Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[Magic_Johnny12]

Not sure if this was mentioned, but Jeremiah Fears is represented by Mike Miller o_O

Fears is 6’ 4” (w/ shoes) with a 6’5” wingspan

I’m a little over the development stage, but the trade up target may very well be right in front of our eyes. Orlando would obviously have the best intel on Fears with their relationship with Miller.

Problem is there is so much smoke around Fears and the teams picking 5-8. We don't have much to give to get up into that range unless we are adding more picks to our picks this year and those are teams who probably just value taking a prospect now to develop as opposed to trading for lesser valued picks. Never say never, but he feels really unlikely to me.

Also the fact that he just feels like he could take a bit of time to progress. Trading several picks up to get him would feel counterintuitive to me. If he falls to 10 or something and you can move 16+25 for him? Sure.

I mean if he’s YOUR guy and all data shows he’s THAT guy, then you do whatever it takes to get him.

Weltman drafted Franz because I’m sure he was confident he could be that guy and it payed off.

If we traded up for Fears I would imagine the sentiment is the same.

[Idiosyncratic]

Not sure if this was mentioned, but Jeremiah Fears is represented by Mike Miller o_O

Fears is 6’ 4” (w/ shoes) with a 6’5” wingspan

I’m a little over the development stage, but the trade up target may very well be right in front of our eyes. Orlando would obviously have the best intel on Fears with their relationship with Miller.

Problem is there is so much smoke around Fears and the teams picking 5-8. We don't have much to give to get up into that range unless we are adding more picks to our picks this year and those are teams who probably just value taking a prospect now to develop as opposed to trading for lesser valued picks. Never say never, but he feels really unlikely to me.

Also the fact that he just feels like he could take a bit of time to progress. Trading several picks up to get him would feel counterintuitive to me. If he falls to 10 or something and you can move 16+25 for him? Sure.

I mean if he’s YOUR guy and all data shows he’s THAT guy, then you do whatever it takes to get him.

Weltman drafted Franz because I’m sure he was confident he could be that guy and it payed off.

If we traded up for Fears I would imagine the sentiment is the same.

Agree to an extent. But at minimum 3 firsts for a guy who could be on a totally different timeline than Franz and Paolo would make me pause. You could trade for a proven commodity at that point or just take multiple shots on players who can fill out the roster. It just seems too expensive based off where I think he will go, but if they are convinced he is a star maybe you still do it. I probably wouldn't and I love Fears.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Not sure if this was mentioned, but Jeremiah Fears is represented by Mike Miller o_O

Fears is 6’ 4” (w/ shoes) with a 6’5” wingspan

I’m a little over the development stage, but the trade up target may very well be right in front of our eyes. Orlando would obviously have the best intel on Fears with their relationship with Miller.

Problem is there is so much smoke around Fears and the teams picking 5-8. We don't have much to give to get up into that range unless we are adding more picks to our picks this year and those are teams who probably just value taking a prospect now to develop as opposed to trading for lesser valued picks. Never say never, but he feels really unlikely to me.

Also the fact that he just feels like he could take a bit of time to progress. Trading several picks up to get him would feel counterintuitive to me. If he falls to 10 or something and you can move 16+25 for him? Sure.

I'd imagine any trade with us moving up would be 16 + AB and maybe another piece.. as much as I like Fears, he's not that guy. Kaspar could step in immediately and provide us a good bit

[Idiosyncratic]

Not sure if this was mentioned, but Jeremiah Fears is represented by Mike Miller o_O

Fears is 6’ 4” (w/ shoes) with a 6’5” wingspan

I’m a little over the development stage, but the trade up target may very well be right in front of our eyes. Orlando would obviously have the best intel on Fears with their relationship with Miller.

Problem is there is so much smoke around Fears and the teams picking 5-8. We don't have much to give to get up into that range unless we are adding more picks to our picks this year and those are teams who probably just value taking a prospect now to develop as opposed to trading for lesser valued picks. Never say never, but he feels really unlikely to me.

Also the fact that he just feels like he could take a bit of time to progress. Trading several picks up to get him would feel counterintuitive to me. If he falls to 10 or something and you can move 16+25 for him? Sure.

I'd imagine any trade with us moving up would be 16 + AB and maybe another piece.. as much as I like Fears, he's not that guy. Kaspar could step in immediately and provide us a good bit

That could make sense, but right now I am just assuming Fears is going in that 5-8 range and think those teams will want more or just take him, but we'll see. I think they just don't have the juice to get into that range and make a deal where it makes sense. If Jakucionis starts falling then yeah I could see that.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Problem is there is so much smoke around Fears and the teams picking 5-8. We don't have much to give to get up into that range unless we are adding more picks to our picks this year and those are teams who probably just value taking a prospect now to develop as opposed to trading for lesser valued picks. Never say never, but he feels really unlikely to me.

Also the fact that he just feels like he could take a bit of time to progress. Trading several picks up to get him would feel counterintuitive to me. If he falls to 10 or something and you can move 16+25 for him? Sure.

I'd imagine any trade with us moving up would be 16 + AB and maybe another piece.. as much as I like Fears, he's not that guy. Kaspar could step in immediately and provide us a good bit

That could make sense, but right now I am just assuming Fears is going in that 5-8 range and think those teams will want more or just take him, but we'll see. I think they just don't have the juice to get into that range and make a deal where it makes sense. If Jakucionis starts falling then yeah I could see that.

absolutely agree, would be a lot to pay to move up for a guy who would take a few years. IMo it's either Jakucionis or Knueppel dude who we'd be moving up for.

[cedric76]

If you like Trey Murphy, check out those magic trades

https://youtu.be/CDTKCdn7jj8?si=RRLzvoUJi0K_SDAr

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[Magic_Johnny12]

If you like Trey Murphy, check out those magic trades

https://youtu.be/CDTKCdn7jj8?si=RRLzvoUJi0K_SDAr

Great content from a cap expert

Just to summarize, Orlando trades:

KCP
Goga Bitazde
Anthony Black
Jett Howard
Gary Harris
#16
#25
‘26 PHX swap
‘27 SRP

For Trey Murphy & x1 SRP

I know you’re solely pointing out Orlando’s cap situation, but not sure what this accomplishes.

If this is our future, then it’s really bleak.

[89Magicfan]

If you like Trey Murphy, check out those magic trades

https://youtu.be/CDTKCdn7jj8?si=RRLzvoUJi0K_SDAr

Great content from a cap expert

Just to summarize, Orlando trades:

KCP
Goga Bitazde
Anthony Black
Jett Howard
Gary Harris
#16
#25
‘26 PHX swap
‘27 SRP

For Trey Murphy & x1 SRP

I know you’re solely pointing out Orlando’s cap situation, but not sure what this accomplishes.

If this is our future, then it’s really bleak.

Very bleak. Is Trey Murphy that good?

[cedric76]

If you like Trey Murphy, check out those magic trades

https://youtu.be/CDTKCdn7jj8?si=RRLzvoUJi0K_SDAr

Great content from a cap expert

Not a fan of the KCP trade and free agency but I really like the Murphy trade

[Magic_Johnny12]

If you like Trey Murphy, check out those magic trades

https://youtu.be/CDTKCdn7jj8?si=RRLzvoUJi0K_SDAr

Great content from a cap expert

Just to summarize, Orlando trades:

KCP
Goga Bitazde
Anthony Black
Jett Howard
Gary Harris
#16
#25
‘26 PHX swap
‘27 SRP

For Trey Murphy & x1 SRP

I know you’re solely pointing out Orlando’s cap situation, but not sure what this accomplishes.

If this is our future, then it’s really bleak.

Very bleak. Is Trey Murphy that good?

He’s good, but more a shooter than a scorer.

Without a true playmaker on the team shooters usually shoot their career lows once they put a Magic jersey on (similar to KCP). So I fully expect Murphy to be another victim.

Boston won a championship the second they traded Smart and acquired a true playmaking guard.

I just really hope Orlando realizes this sooner than later with Suggs (either he’s your starting SG or is traded for a PG upgrade). You simply can’t trade away all your depth/picks/veterans to just compound the issue (imo).

[89Magicfan]

Just to summarize, Orlando trades:

KCP
Goga Bitazde
Anthony Black
Jett Howard
Gary Harris
#16
#25
‘26 PHX swap
‘27 SRP

For Trey Murphy & x1 SRP

I know you’re solely pointing out Orlando’s cap situation, but not sure what this accomplishes.

If this is our future, then it’s really bleak.

Very bleak. Is Trey Murphy that good?

He’s good, but more a shooter than a scorer.

Without a true playmaker on the team shooters usually shoot their career lows once they put a Magic jersey on (similar to KCP). So I fully expect Murphy to be another victim.

Boston won a championship the second they traded Smart and acquired a true playmaking guard.

I just really hope Orlando realizes this sooner than later with Suggs (either he’s your starting SG or is traded for a PG upgrade). You simply can’t trade away all your depth/picks/veterans to just compound the issue (imo).

That’s my sentiments as well. No point in bringing in anyone if we don’t have someone who can get good shots for everyone.

[SOUL]

I think people are overestimating how many "true point guards" exist and we just need someone who can set the team up in decent spots. If you want to get one of those guys, it's going to cost Suggs + others people probably wouldn't want to part with right now. If you can somehow get like Scotty Pippen Jr + Trey Murphy that would be a dream scenario imo.

[pepe1991]

Can we drop this Trey Murphy thing? It's like entering Wizards board and listening to all the Franz trades. Guess what? It ain't happening.


Nobody trades their best player away and signs guy on FAT 4 years contract to drop him for bunch of role players and scrubs just because some picks.

Pelicans are one of top 5 teams in terms of most incomming draft capital. They don't need to trade him nor they have any cap problems.

Their only problem is Zion.

Murphy trade is as realistic as Jokić trade to Magic. Just because poster repeats it 50000 times probability is still zero.

[eyriq]

If you like Trey Murphy, check out those magic trades

https://youtu.be/CDTKCdn7jj8?si=RRLzvoUJi0K_SDAr

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Interesting plan. I hate it.

In:
Trey Murphy
Ty Jerome
Moritz
Precious Achiuwa
CoJo

Out:
AB
KCP
Harris
Jett
16
25
2026 first

[jezzerinho]

Not sure if this was mentioned, but Jeremiah Fears is represented by Mike Miller o_O

Fears is 6’ 4” (w/ shoes) with a 6’5” wingspan

I’m a little over the development stage, but the trade up target may very well be right in front of our eyes. Orlando would obviously have the best intel on Fears with their relationship with Miller.

Problem is there is so much smoke around Fears and the teams picking 5-8. We don't have much to give to get up into that range unless we are adding more picks to our picks this year and those are teams who probably just value taking a prospect now to develop as opposed to trading for lesser valued picks. Never say never, but he feels really unlikely to me.

Also the fact that he just feels like he could take a bit of time to progress. Trading several picks up to get him would feel counterintuitive to me. If he falls to 10 or something and you can move 16+25 for him? Sure.

I mean if he’s YOUR guy and all data shows he’s THAT guy, then you do whatever it takes to get him.

Weltman drafted Franz because I’m sure he was confident he could be that guy and it payed off.

If we traded up for Fears I would imagine the sentiment is the same.

Show me a poimt/combo guard outside of Hali (who is a phenom) in the last 5-7 years who did anything of significance to help a contending team within the 1st 2 years or so. It's just soooooo hard to run an NBA offense that CoJo will do it better than Year 1 Cade Cunningham.

Those picks will be needed to move salary and attract teams to deal with us. I'd hope we draft nobody in the 1st frankly.

[Magic_Johnny12]

If you like Trey Murphy, check out those magic trades

https://youtu.be/CDTKCdn7jj8?si=RRLzvoUJi0K_SDAr

Great content from a cap expert

Interesting plan. I hate it.

In:
Trey Murphy
Ty Jerome
Moritz
Precious Achiuwa
CoJo

Out:
AB
KCP
Harris
Jett
16
25
2026 first

It’s important to note Jerome/Achiuwa are free agent acquisitions (that Orlando would be able to acquire regardless of the trade if they opened the MLE).

And you left out Goga.

[eyriq]

If you like Trey Murphy, check out those magic trades

https://youtu.be/CDTKCdn7jj8?si=RRLzvoUJi0K_SDAr

Great content from a cap expert

Interesting plan. I hate it.

In:
Trey Murphy
Ty Jerome
Moritz
Precious Achiuwa
CoJo

Out:
AB
KCP
Harris
Jett
16
25
2026 first

It’s important to note Jerome/Achiuwa are free agent acquisitions (that Orlando would be able to acquire regardless of the trade if they opened the MLE).

And you left out Goga.

Good call. You just made me vomit more. Absolutely disgusting

In:
Trey Murphy
Ty Jerome
Moritz
Precious Achiuwa
CoJo

Out:
AB
KCP
Harris
Jett
Goga
16
25
2026 first

[89Magicfan]

Reaves just seems like the best option

[89Magicfan]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280704/Darius-Garland-Out-4-5-Months-With-Surgery-On-Great-Toe


Welp…

[Magic_Johnny12]

Problem is there is so much smoke around Fears and the teams picking 5-8. We don't have much to give to get up into that range unless we are adding more picks to our picks this year and those are teams who probably just value taking a prospect now to develop as opposed to trading for lesser valued picks. Never say never, but he feels really unlikely to me.

Also the fact that he just feels like he could take a bit of time to progress. Trading several picks up to get him would feel counterintuitive to me. If he falls to 10 or something and you can move 16+25 for him? Sure.

I mean if he’s YOUR guy and all data shows he’s THAT guy, then you do whatever it takes to get him.

Weltman drafted Franz because I’m sure he was confident he could be that guy and it payed off.

If we traded up for Fears I would imagine the sentiment is the same.

Show me a poimt/combo guard outside of Hali (who is a phenom) in the last 5-7 years who did anything of significance to help a contending team within the 1st 2 years or so. It's just soooooo hard to run an NBA offense that CoJo will do it better than Year 1 Cade Cunningham.

Those picks will be needed to move salary and attract teams to deal with us. I'd hope we draft nobody in the 1st frankly.

I hear you and I’m mostly in agreement.

I’m just outlining how the FO could approach the draft/tying rumors together.

It’s a double sided sword, on one end you need rookie depth that possesses upside and on the other you don’t have much room for development and need picks to undo the mistakes you have done in the past.

Orlando hasn’t traded a FRP since the Oladipo trade and something in me tells me that they’re not just going to change overnight. Maybe the #25.