Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[Knightro]

I keep playing with the numbers and i cant get a team below the 1st apron better than this one

suggs,sexton,Cojo
KCP,AB,Harris
franz, Oneil,TDS
Paolo,JI,Caleb
WCJ,Raynaud, Moe

400 K $ under the 1st apron

Jett s job is very hard

Share your work.

Provide the exact step-by-step.

Also this team isn't really much better than last year. Sexton instead of Cole. O'Neale instead of Jett. Raynaud instead of Goga.

You'd have to be a really big believer in Sexton to think this team is better at all really.

[cedric76]

I keep playing with the numbers and i cant get a team below the 1st apron better than this one

suggs,sexton,Cojo
KCP,AB,Harris
franz, Oneil,TDS
Paolo,JI,Caleb
WCJ,Raynaud, Moe

400 K $ under the 1st apron

Jett s job is very hard

Share your work.

Provide the exact step-by-step.

Also this team isn't really much better than last year. Sexton instead of Cole. O'Neale instead of Jett. Raynaud instead of Goga.

You'd have to be a really big believer in Sexton to think this team is better at all really.

yeap, mainly small upgrades on what we had last year

Cole + Jett + #25 for sexton ---> (better player, better playmaking, better D, better 3PT %)
Goga for Royce Oneil ---> (Cheap 3& D vet locked in on cheap contract, improves our spacing)
Harris + cojo to vets minimum (we need cheap contracts and those 2 r good vets, good 3rd options)
opt in on Houstan ---> (we need his cheap contract and he can space the floor)
Opt out on Moe and resign on far lower amount ---> (Moe is Moe)
Draft Raynaud ---> ( (potential to be a good stretch big)


All realistic moves



Add health and we are good to go

[RichCollab]

I keep playing with the numbers and i cant get a team below the 1st apron better than this one

suggs,sexton,Cojo
KCP,AB,Harris
franz, Oneil,TDS
Paolo,JI,Caleb
WCJ,Raynaud, Moe

400 K $ under the 1st apron

Jett s job is very hard

Share your work.

Provide the exact step-by-step.

Also this team isn't really much better than last year. Sexton instead of Cole. O'Neale instead of Jett. Raynaud instead of Goga.

You'd have to be a really big believer in Sexton to think this team is better at all really.

Jett and Cole were pretty bad. Getting younger at the 3rd center spot seems good.

I dig it. I would like Harris gone.

[cedric76]

I keep playing with the numbers and i cant get a team below the 1st apron better than this one

suggs,sexton,Cojo
KCP,AB,Harris
franz, Oneil,TDS
Paolo,JI,Caleb
WCJ,Raynaud, Moe

400 K $ under the 1st apron

Jett s job is very hard

Share your work.

Provide the exact step-by-step.

Also this team isn't really much better than last year. Sexton instead of Cole. O'Neale instead of Jett. Raynaud instead of Goga.

You'd have to be a really big believer in Sexton to think this team is better at all really.

Jett and Cole were pretty bad. Getting younger at the 3rd center spot seems good.

I dig it. I would like Harris gone.

Harris as your 3rd SG on hte VEt min is not bad

[RichCollab]

Share your work.

Provide the exact step-by-step.

Also this team isn't really much better than last year. Sexton instead of Cole. O'Neale instead of Jett. Raynaud instead of Goga.

You'd have to be a really big believer in Sexton to think this team is better at all really.

Jett and Cole were pretty bad. Getting younger at the 3rd center spot seems good.

I dig it. I would like Harris gone.

Harris as your 3rd SG on hte VEt min is not bad

I still prefer just about anyone else but I’m not going to argue about 3rd string SG.

[jezzerinho]

I keep playing with the numbers and i cant get a team below the 1st apron better than this one

suggs,sexton,Cojo
KCP,AB,Harris
franz, Oneil,TDS
Paolo,JI,Caleb
WCJ,Raynaud, Moe

400 K $ under the 1st apron

Jett s job is very hard

Share your work.

Provide the exact step-by-step.

Also this team isn't really much better than last year. Sexton instead of Cole. O'Neale instead of Jett. Raynaud instead of Goga.

You'd have to be a really big believer in Sexton to think this team is better at all really.

yeap, mainly small upgrades on what we had last year

Cole + Jett + #25 for sexton ---> (better player, better playmaking, better D, better 3PT %)
Goga for Royce Oneil ---> (Cheap 3& D vet locked in on cheap contract, improves our spacing)
Harris + cojo to vets minimum (we need cheap contracts and those 2 r good vets, good 3rd options)
opt in on Houstan ---> (we need his cheap contract and he can space the floor)
Opt out on Moe and resign on far lower amount ---> (Moe is Moe)
Draft Raynaud ---> ( (potential to be a good stretch big)


All realistic moves



Add health and we are good to go

It's not what you call ambitious, but it's practical and achievable and we'd be somewhat better.

[cedric76]

Share your work.

Provide the exact step-by-step.

Also this team isn't really much better than last year. Sexton instead of Cole. O'Neale instead of Jett. Raynaud instead of Goga.

You'd have to be a really big believer in Sexton to think this team is better at all really.

yeap, mainly small upgrades on what we had last year

Cole + Jett + #25 for sexton ---> (better player, better playmaking, better D, better 3PT %)
Goga for Royce Oneil ---> (Cheap 3& D vet locked in on cheap contract, improves our spacing)
Harris + cojo to vets minimum (we need cheap contracts and those 2 r good vets, good 3rd options)
opt in on Houstan ---> (we need his cheap contract and he can space the floor)
Opt out on Moe and resign on far lower amount ---> (Moe is Moe)
Draft Raynaud ---> ( (potential to be a good stretch big)


All realistic moves



Add health and we are good to go

It's not what you call ambitious, but it's practical and achievable and we'd be somewhat better.

Hard to be ambitious and stay under the 1st apron.

[jezzerinho]

yeap, mainly small upgrades on what we had last year

Cole + Jett + #25 for sexton ---> (better player, better playmaking, better D, better 3PT %)
Goga for Royce Oneil ---> (Cheap 3& D vet locked in on cheap contract, improves our spacing)
Harris + cojo to vets minimum (we need cheap contracts and those 2 r good vets, good 3rd options)
opt in on Houstan ---> (we need his cheap contract and he can space the floor)
Opt out on Moe and resign on far lower amount ---> (Moe is Moe)
Draft Raynaud ---> ( (potential to be a good stretch big)


All realistic moves



Add health and we are good to go

It's not what you call ambitious, but it's practical and achievable and we'd be somewhat better.

Hard to be ambitious and stay under the 1st apron.

So don't!

[thelead]

I’d like for this team to move on from WCJ. I wouldn’t mind him off the bench but his contract is too big for that now. Finding a new starting center and starting guard to fit better with the core 3 would be an optimal summer. Seems like wishful thinking with Weltman at the helm though.

Reaves, Jerome, and Simons would be at the top of my starting guard (realistic) wishlist.

Myles Turner has always intrigued me but I doubt he leaves now. At this point I would be open to starting Goga and signing Steven Adams to back him up. Not 100% ideal but we need more grit from the 5.

[yoyojw17]

I keep playing with the numbers and i cant get a team below the 1st apron better than this one

suggs,sexton,Cojo
KCP,AB,Harris
franz, Oneil,TDS
Paolo,JI,Caleb
WCJ,Raynaud, Moe

400 K $ under the 1st apron

Jett s job is very hard

Share your work.

Provide the exact step-by-step.

Also this team isn't really much better than last year. Sexton instead of Cole. O'Neale instead of Jett. Raynaud instead of Goga.

You'd have to be a really big believer in Sexton to think this team is better at all really.

yeap, mainly small upgrades on what we had last year

Cole + Jett + #25 for sexton ---> (better player, better playmaking, better D, better 3PT %)
Goga for Royce Oneil ---> (Cheap 3& D vet locked in on cheap contract, improves our spacing)
Harris + cojo to vets minimum (we need cheap contracts and those 2 r good vets, good 3rd options)
opt in on Houstan ---> (we need his cheap contract and he can space the floor)
Opt out on Moe and resign on far lower amount ---> (Moe is Moe)
Draft Raynaud ---> ( (potential to be a good stretch big)


All realistic moves



Add health and we are good to go

Sexton deal.... For sure I'm down with. Plus I think he might be cheaper to resign that anfernee.... Mainly because sexton has pretty much been a bench player this entire time.... And that will be his role here as well. 6th man under $20 mill.

I know some might think to themselves that Goga is dispensable because he wasn't getting as much burn. Not sure how they will play this out..... But if we're not getting an impact player at a different position..... I don't see us giving him up. Goga was on of the better defensive players last season. And though he doesn't score a lot.... His impact is noticeable on the offensive end as well.

I know .. in 20 minutes a game.... But off rating of 127 and def rating of 105 .... Is pretty damn good. Depending how the rework the bench and shore up scoring... They might keep him.

But... We will see.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Share your work.

Provide the exact step-by-step.

Also this team isn't really much better than last year. Sexton instead of Cole. O'Neale instead of Jett. Raynaud instead of Goga.

You'd have to be a really big believer in Sexton to think this team is better at all really.

yeap, mainly small upgrades on what we had last year

Cole + Jett + #25 for sexton ---> (better player, better playmaking, better D, better 3PT %)
Goga for Royce Oneil ---> (Cheap 3& D vet locked in on cheap contract, improves our spacing)
Harris + cojo to vets minimum (we need cheap contracts and those 2 r good vets, good 3rd options)
opt in on Houstan ---> (we need his cheap contract and he can space the floor)
Opt out on Moe and resign on far lower amount ---> (Moe is Moe)
Draft Raynaud ---> ( (potential to be a good stretch big)


All realistic moves



Add health and we are good to go

Sexton deal.... For sure I'm down with. Plus I think he might be cheaper to resign that anfernee.... Mainly because sexton has pretty much been a bench player this entire time.... And that will be his role here as well. 6th man under $20 mill.

I know some might think to themselves that Goga is dispensable because he wasn't getting as much burn. Not sure how they will play this out..... But if we're not getting an impact player at a different position..... I don't see us giving him up. Goga was on of the better defensive players last season. And though he doesn't score a lot.... His impact is noticeable on the offensive end as well.

I know .. in 20 minutes a game.... But off rating of 127 and def rating of 105 .... Is pretty damn good. Depending how the rework the bench and shore up scoring... They might keep him.

But... We will see.

Think the fact that he barely played in the playoffs speaks to how Mosely feels about him. Not to mention Goga occupies the same space Paolo does. He’s not a good fit and not shockingly had his best stretch when Paolo was out.

5 games 75 minutes KCP Suggs Franz WCJ Goga has +31.9 Net Rtg.

[sk8wrulz]

I’d like for this team to move on from WCJ. I wouldn’t mind him off the bench but his contract is too big for that now. Finding a new starting center and starting guard to fit better with the core 3 would be an optimal summer. Seems like wishful thinking with Weltman at the helm though.

Reaves, Jerome, and Simons would be at the top of my starting guard (realistic) wishlist.

Myles Turner has always intrigued me but I doubt he leaves now. At this point I would be open to starting Goga and signing Steven Adams to back him up. Not 100% ideal but we need more grit from the 5.

I’d like this to happen too but the problem is our coach seems to have lost trust in Goga. The only playing time he gets is when there are injuries, sadly.

[VFX]

I’d like for this team to move on from WCJ. I wouldn’t mind him off the bench but his contract is too big for that now. Finding a new starting center and starting guard to fit better with the core 3 would be an optimal summer. Seems like wishful thinking with Weltman at the helm though.

Reaves, Jerome, and Simons would be at the top of my starting guard (realistic) wishlist.

Myles Turner has always intrigued me but I doubt he leaves now. At this point I would be open to starting Goga and signing Steven Adams to back him up. Not 100% ideal but we need more grit from the 5.

It's funny I was about to post this.

I'll be super bummed if Carter is on this team next year to be honest. Cole is a close second.

Both of these guys can be easily replaced in a few different packages or one off moves.

[thelead]

For all the Garland talk, the dude is out for 5 months now. No wonder why there were rumors of the Cavs being willing to trade him.

[mattdelray1220]

Would you guys do

AB, Goga, JI, TDS 16 and the suns pick
For
Maxey, Drummond

If Maxey were to be on the block... Is this clearly not enough?

What would that Suns pick have to turn into for this to be fair? 5? 6? 8?

They would get out of Maxeys big contract, PG would be next of course and get to start over with an AB, McCain, Bailey, Embiid core. Tons of Picks and cap. Plus JI, Goga on great deals and TDS could deff carve out a legit role there.

I am not saying this is super realistic, but I think these are the deals the Magic are looking for. Seems like they offered something similar for Fox.

[Knightro]

Would you guys do

AB, Goga, JI, TDS 16 and the suns pick
For
Maxey, Drummond

If Maxey were to be on the block... Is this clearly not enough?

What would that Suns pick have to turn into for this to be fair? 5? 6? 8?

They would get out of Maxeys big contract, PG would be next of course and get to start over with an AB, McCain, Bailey, Embiid core. Tons of Picks and cap. Plus JI, Goga on great deals and TDS could deff carve out a legit role there.

I am not saying this is super realistic, but I think these are the deals the Magic are looking for. Seems like they offered something similar for Fox.

The Sixers would not consider this.

[Skybox]

I keep playing with the numbers and i cant get a team below the 1st apron better than this one

suggs,sexton,Cojo
KCP,AB,Harris
franz, Oneil,TDS
Paolo,JI,Caleb
WCJ,Raynaud, Moe

400 K $ under the 1st apron

Jett s job is very hard

He has certainly made it harder with the last few years' decisions and non-decisions....so, it's a very busy summer or total fail, imo.

[Skybox]

Share your work.

Provide the exact step-by-step.

Also this team isn't really much better than last year. Sexton instead of Cole. O'Neale instead of Jett. Raynaud instead of Goga.

You'd have to be a really big believer in Sexton to think this team is better at all really.

Jett and Cole were pretty bad. Getting younger at the 3rd center spot seems good.

I dig it. I would like Harris gone.

Harris as your 3rd SG on hte VEt min is not bad

If your starting backcourt is still KCP/Suggs...then it's just not much of a jump.

[Skybox]

Would you guys do

AB, Goga, JI, TDS 16 and the suns pick
For
Maxey, Drummond

If Maxey were to be on the block... Is this clearly not enough?

What would that Suns pick have to turn into for this to be fair? 5? 6? 8?

They would get out of Maxeys big contract, PG would be next of course and get to start over with an AB, McCain, Bailey, Embiid core. Tons of Picks and cap. Plus JI, Goga on great deals and TDS could deff carve out a legit role there.

I am not saying this is super realistic, but I think these are the deals the Magic are looking for. Seems like they offered something similar for Fox.

The Sixers would not consider this.

This has absolutely no consideration for what the 76ers might want or need, Zero.

[dsg2021]

I’d like for this team to move on from WCJ. I wouldn’t mind him off the bench but his contract is too big for that now. Finding a new starting center and starting guard to fit better with the core 3 would be an optimal summer. Seems like wishful thinking with Weltman at the helm though.

Reaves, Jerome, and Simons would be at the top of my starting guard (realistic) wishlist.

Myles Turner has always intrigued me but I doubt he leaves now. At this point I would be open to starting Goga and signing Steven Adams to back him up. Not 100% ideal but we need more grit from the 5.

I think Naz Reid is who we need to chase. Really show out for him in a FA visit and make him feel like the starting modern 5 of the Magic for a decade. I’d probably have him as high up a target as anyone else (outside of really big ideas). Even over guards.
I am a maniac for positional height in every single position but I think Center is becoming a spot where defensive teams want switchability against the perimeter point of attack (more than height). Reid is also before his prime, and spaces out the team offense. Another way of looking at it is, we can probably predict 60%+ of the guards the Magic would face in the next half-decade or so of Playoffs series, meaning we can look at Reid's and other 5's specific switch defense on them (specific scouting matchups instead of generalized scouting terms).

And I think someone like Anfernee Simons or Collin Sexton is easier to get in the back end. Because they are not FA’s. They are trades with the kicker of “I want to be paid 20-30 mil per year and for 4 years” also.