Charlotte / Miami - BAM

Rich4114 · Post #1 » by **Rich4114** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 9:12 pm

Charlotte Outgoing: Miles Bridges, Mark Williams, 3x FRP's (2026 FRP Unprotected, 2027 Miami Pick Returned, 2027 Dallas Top 2 protected)
Charlotte Incoming: Bam Adebayo

Miami Outgoing: Bam Adebayo
Miami Incoming: Miles Bridges, Mark Williams, 3x FRP's (2026 FRP Unprotected, 2027 Miami Pick Returned, 2027 Dallas Top 2 protected)

If Miami is looking to reset a bit and re-load on some draft assets given several of them are tied up from trades, would this type of package from Charlotte do it? Can also swap out Miles Bridges for Nurkic if an expiring $19m deal is more valuable than 2 years of Bridges.

For Charlotte, they need to add top-end talent to help them get to the playoffs. They have a plethora of future draft assets and flexible contracts to use. For Miami, that roster is topped out at the play-in range if they can't land another star. They get Mark Williams who still has great upside now that he's healthy again and would control his rights. Bridges is a nice finisher/rebounder and his contract scales down next season and the season after before it expires.

ReggiesKnicks · Post #2 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 9:37 pm

Not putting in #4 is weird. The deal would be based on #4 and Mark Williams.

JustBuzzin · Post #3 » by **JustBuzzin** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:03 pm

I like the idea of Bam, but this seems like a lot considering Bam is coming off a down season.

Post #4 » by **Texas Chuck** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:07 pm

yeah I'd make it Nurkic not Bridges. Does feel like #4 probably has to be in here. Those could be good picks, but they could also be like late lottery or worse. But I like the idea of it for Charlotte and Miami occasionally does go for the hard reset, and they could also trade Herro, tank for a year and then do that we are Miami two stars please come team up and play for us business.

But I think it takes 4.

Rich4114 · Post #5 » by **Rich4114** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:13 pm

So add 4 but remove one of the future picks like Dallas?

jayjaysee · Post #6 » by **jayjaysee** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:17 pm

I think it needs more..

Charlotte could add that late 2026 first they own and their own 2028 first if they really want to keep four out of it? But just think 4 belongs..

And Miami probably doesn’t want Bridges, Nurk and more tax relief is better imo.

Rich4114 · Post #7 » by **Rich4114** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:20 pm

OK, take 2:

Charlotte Outgoing: Jusuf Nurkic, Mark Williams, 2x FRP's (#4 Pick 2025 Draft, 2027 Miami Pick Returned)
Charlotte Incoming: Bam Adebayo

Miami Outgoing: Bam Adebayo
Miami Incoming: Miles Bridges, Mark Williams, 2x FRP's (2026 FRP Unprotected, 2027 Miami Pick Returned)

facothomas22 · Post #8 » by **facothomas22** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:23 pm

Yeah, not adding the 4th pick doesn't make a lot of sense. The Heat would be looking for a high quality asset for Bam Adebayo. The Mavericks pick can be removed and Miles Bridges should be replaced with Jusef Nurkic. Basically the deal should something looking like Jusef Nurkic + Mark Williams + 4th pick in the draft + Heat 2027 or 2028 pick returned.

JustBuzzin · Post #9 » by **JustBuzzin** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:40 pm

facothomas22 wrote:Yeah, not adding the 4th pick doesn't make a lot of sense. The Heat would be looking for a high quality asset for Bam Adebayo. The Mavericks pick can be removed and Miles Bridges should be replaced with Jusef Nurkic. Basically the deal should something looking like Jusef Nurkic + Mark Williams + 4th pick in the draft + Heat 2027 or 2028 pick returned.

Now this makes more sense. :nod:

HornetJail · Post #10 » by **HornetJail** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:44 pm

My offer probably peaks at #4, Miami pick returned, and the 2026 pick we got from the Nurkic trade (worst of ORL/MEM/PHX/WAS - would be #18 if the teams have the same outcome next year), Josh Green and Grant Williams. I'm not trading Mark in his current very de-valued state.

Imagine this finally kick-starts a full rebuild in Miami.

Charlotte going into next season with a supersized starting five in Melo, Miller, Bridges, Bam, Mark, plus the full MLE and two early 2nds to build depth (plus Diabate, Mann, NSJ, Okogie, Jeffries, Salaun)

Post #11 » by **BBallFreak** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 11:02 pm

HornetJail wrote:My offer probably peaks at #4, Miami pick returned, and the 2026 pick we got from the Nurkic trade (worst of ORL/MEM/PHX/WAS - would be #18 if the teams have the same outcome next year), Josh Green and Grant Williams. I'm not trading Mark in his current very de-valued state.

Imagine this finally kick-starts a full rebuild in Miami.

Charlotte going into next season with a supersized starting five in Melo, Miller, Bridges, Bam, Mark, plus the full MLE and two early 2nds to build depth (plus Diabate, Mann, NSJ, Okogie, Jeffries, Salaun)

I would think we'd insist on Williams if we were going to do this, but unfortunately, I don't think Miami does. Still, I would love it. Ship off Herro and Wiggins for value and let Rozier expire while buying out Duncan. Resign Mitchell, use Williams and Ware together, draft a shooting guard at 4, maybe Coward at 20, and see what we can do.

GoBobs · Post #12 » by **GoBobs** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 11:51 pm

I like Bam the player. He is a pseudo star that gets paid like a star however. He isn’t worth more than one or two mid firsts.

giberish · Post #13 » by **giberish** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:26 am

HornetJail wrote:My offer probably peaks at #4, Miami pick returned, and the 2026 pick we got from the Nurkic trade (worst of ORL/MEM/PHX/WAS - would be #18 if the teams have the same outcome next year), Josh Green and Grant Williams. I'm not trading Mark in his current very de-valued state.

Imagine this finally kick-starts a full rebuild in Miami.

Charlotte going into next season with a supersized starting five in Melo, Miller, Bridges, Bam, Mark, plus the full MLE and two early 2nds to build depth (plus Diabate, Mann, NSJ, Okogie, Jeffries, Salaun)

Yeah I think something like this is what would make the most sense in a Bam to Charlotte deal. #4 + Miami pick returned + filler for Bam. Filler being some of Nurk/Grant Williams/Green/Okogie - possibly the worst of 1st added if filler has extra years.

Feels very unlikely though as I see Miami as far too stubborn to trade Bam in a rebuild.

MasterIchiro · Post #14 » by **MasterIchiro** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:32 am

It's definitely highly unlikely from Miami's perspective because they just never go full rebuild.

It's a longshot unless they really love the prospect at 4. Example, needing a franchise PG (it's not Davion Mitchell), they fall in love with Jeremiah Fears who some scouts reportedly consider having more upside (also more downside) than Dylan Harper.

I'd bank on that and leverage it to curb the offer outside this centerpiece.

daoneandonly · Post #15 » by **daoneandonly** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:38 am

If only Dallas could get a similar return for AD

JMAC3 · Post #16 » by **JMAC3** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:56 am

I don't think adding in #4 makes any sense for Charlotte. They have been in asset collection mode for 2 years and have 3 bonus first rounds on top of all their picks, I don't think they tanked the season so that they could include that high pick in a trade while keeping all these future firsts.

The goal of trading for Bam would be to try to maximize the team right now which we need to draft at #4 in order to do that, but yeah for Miami of course they would want #4 because that would be the top asset anyone would consider offering for Bam.

SA37 · Post #17 » by **SA37** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:23 am

I can't see Miami even considering this kind of trade. Riley hates the Draft and Bam is probably the most "Heat culture" guy on the roster.

IMO, Bam only gets moved if Giannis is heading to Miami.

VaDe255 · Post #18 » by **VaDe255** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:32 am

I'd love some kind of varation of this trade.
Think the Heats best path is to just bottom out and reset at this point, I know they won't but this is the sort of trade I'd be looking for:

Mark Williams, #4 Pick 2025 Draft, 27 returned + some more draft capital or young player useful for a reset; Think that'd be the baseline for a Bam trade.

Also I'm not worried about the first half Bam had last year, it was a very slow start probably because of the Olympics and the 3p shot he was integrating into his game. The second half of the season he was 20/10 on good efficiency and very good 3p shooting. Bam will thrive in a role, where he isn't forced to create his own shot.

Post #19 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:44 am

Rich4114 wrote:OK, take 2:

Charlotte Outgoing: Jusuf Nurkic, Mark Williams, 2x FRP's (#4 Pick 2025 Draft, 2027 Miami Pick Returned)
Charlotte Incoming: Bam Adebayo

Miami Outgoing: Bam Adebayo
Miami Incoming: Miles Bridges, Mark Williams, 2x FRP's (2026 FRP Unprotected, 2027 Miami Pick Returned)

That's a strong offer for Bam, but has there been rumblings about Miami looking to trade him?

Rich4114 · Post #20 » by **Rich4114** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:35 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Rich4114 wrote:OK, take 2:

Charlotte Outgoing: Jusuf Nurkic, Mark Williams, 2x FRP's (#4 Pick 2025 Draft, 2027 Miami Pick Returned)
Charlotte Incoming: Bam Adebayo

Miami Outgoing: Bam Adebayo
Miami Incoming: Miles Bridges, Mark Williams, 2x FRP's (2026 FRP Unprotected, 2027 Miami Pick Returned)

That's a strong offer for Bam, but has there been rumblings about Miami looking to trade him?

I haven't really seen anything but given the season they just had and what their roster looks like + lack of draft capital, it is a pivot I could see them making for basically the first time ever lol.