2025 Draft prospects - thread 2

[HomoSapien]

Here is who went after WCJ in 2018:

#8: Collin Sexton

#10: Mikal Bridges

#11: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander

#12: Miles Bridges

#14: Michael Porter Jr.

Was it a good pick by Chicago because he's still mostly starting in the NBA? Would AK get a win for getting a player like that? Or would you be upset because of the players he passed on.

I don't even know if it was an option(probably not), but on draft night my hope was that we traded down with LA for their two picks so we could get Shai and MPJ.

From memory, a lot of people on this board wanted Porter Jr. Quite a few people thought it was worth the swing. I think some people also liked Miles Bridges. I don't remember SGA being on anyone's radar here.

[Rose2Boozer]

i dunno man, "i'm not a center" and "i'm actually really good at 3pt shooting despite sucking at it in college" are not exactly things i want my big man prospect to be saying during the pre-draft process

And yet you’ll hear it said every year. The first guy I ever heard say it was our very own Elton Brand (and later another of our Duke bigs, WCJ), and I’ve been hearing it pretty much every year from someone ever since.

Newell is my first choice-I like the idea of Matas/Newell moving forward as two-way forwards. I want us to play big. See if we can trade White and get a LBall type 3D guy to start with Giddey

If we're running out Giddey, Matas, and Newell, the team is going to need a lot more than a Lonzo type 3 and D guy.

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[MGB8]

Here is who went after WCJ in 2018:

#8: Collin Sexton

#10: Mikal Bridges

#11: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander

#12: Miles Bridges

#14: Michael Porter Jr.

Was it a good pick by Chicago because he's still mostly starting in the NBA? Would AK get a win for getting a player like that? Or would you be upset because of the players he passed on.

I don't even know if it was an option(probably not), but on draft night my hope was that we traded down with LA for their two picks so we could get Shai and MPJ.

From memory, a lot of people on this board wanted Porter Jr. Quite a few people thought it was worth the swing. I think some people also liked Miles Bridges. I don't remember SGA being on anyone's radar here.

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[Jcool0]

Here is who went after WCJ in 2018:

#8: Collin Sexton

#10: Mikal Bridges

#11: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander

#12: Miles Bridges

#14: Michael Porter Jr.

Was it a good pick by Chicago because he's still mostly starting in the NBA? Would AK get a win for getting a player like that? Or would you be upset because of the players he passed on.

I don't even know if it was an option(probably not), but on draft night my hope was that we traded down with LA for their two picks so we could get Shai and MPJ.

From memory, a lot of people on this board wanted Porter Jr. Quite a few people thought it was worth the swing. I think some people also liked Miles Bridges. I don't remember SGA being on anyone's radar here.

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[nomorezorro]

going into those threads and remembering we were rumored to be trying to navigate a trade up for bagley or bamba...dark times

[nomorezorro]

ok now i just got to a part where we were rumored to be interested in trading for a second lottery pick, but the fact that we promised chandler hutchison @ 22 was potentially limiting our flexibility to do so. i'm gonna have to stop reading this now

[Red Larrivee]

Here is who went after WCJ in 2018:

#8: Collin Sexton

#10: Mikal Bridges

#11: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander

#12: Miles Bridges

#14: Michael Porter Jr.

Was it a good pick by Chicago because he's still mostly starting in the NBA? Would AK get a win for getting a player like that? Or would you be upset because of the players he passed on.

I don't even know if it was an option(probably not), but on draft night my hope was that we traded down with LA for their two picks so we could get Shai and MPJ.

From memory, a lot of people on this board wanted Porter Jr. Quite a few people thought it was worth the swing. I think some people also liked Miles Bridges. I don't remember SGA being on anyone's radar here.

Yeah, SGA wasn't discussed much here and wasn't even an option on polls.

I remember a bunch of people saying Porter was the next Kevin Durant or something. Then there was mostly some sort of split with Carter, Young, Bamba and the Bridges.

[Jcool0]

ok now i just got to a part where we were rumored to be interested in trading for a second lottery pick, but the fact that we promised chandler hutchison @ 22 was potentially limiting our flexibility to do so. i'm gonna have to stop reading this now

Post#351 » by nomorezorro » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:01 pm

ecstatic: doncic, jjj, young

happy: bamba (@ 7)

content: carter, bridges, bagley (@ 7), bamba (if we trade up)

disappointed: porter (@ 7)

intrigued but low-key mad: knox, bagley (if we trade up)

furious: porter (if we trade up)

[nomorezorro]

shh don't blow up my spot with the bamba part. let's all just focus on that ecstatic line

[Chi town]

https://youtu.be/CBrrgr_oboI?si=ia20Jx4Y_3shoSso

KJ Noa Coward all there at 12.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

No one reasonable *expects* to draft an All Star in the late lottery. But high end outcomes are absolutely worth chasing.

You can find a capped out fifth starter big in FA — or trade for one with a late first/multiple seconds if inclined. What you can’t do is trade for Matas on a rookie contract. That’s why using #12 on WCJ is totally out of step with how the league values these picks.

Carter was a key piece in acquiring an all-star big at his peak in value despite not being a great player or having superstar upside. Matas would be the same way if an all-star was available and wanted to go to Chicago.

I'm not saying that your goal with a lottery pick should be to hit a single. I'm saying there are realistic scenarios where you can live with a high floor outcome in comparison to what's around you.

WCJ was comfortably the least valuable piece the Bulls sent out in that trade and a lot less valuable than Matas is today.

I would agree that you can live with a single at 12, but in a hypothetical scenario where you use the 12th pick to draft WCJ, that *is* aiming to hit a single.

[Jvaughn]

Here is who went after WCJ in 2018:

#8: Collin Sexton

#10: Mikal Bridges

#11: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander

#12: Miles Bridges

#14: Michael Porter Jr.

Was it a good pick by Chicago because he's still mostly starting in the NBA? Would AK get a win for getting a player like that? Or would you be upset because of the players he passed on.

I don't even know if it was an option(probably not), but on draft night my hope was that we traded down with LA for their two picks so we could get Shai and MPJ.

From memory, a lot of people on this board wanted Porter Jr. Quite a few people thought it was worth the swing. I think some people also liked Miles Bridges. I don't remember SGA being on anyone's radar here.

I definitely didn't think he'd be an MVP talent, but I thought he'd definitely would be a player in this league. Loved his size and ease at which he scored at Kentucky without any type of elite athleticism.

[ThisGuyFawkes]

I don't even know if it was an option(probably not), but on draft night my hope was that we traded down with LA for their two picks so we could get Shai and MPJ.

From memory, a lot of people on this board wanted Porter Jr. Quite a few people thought it was worth the swing. I think some people also liked Miles Bridges. I don't remember SGA being on anyone's radar here.

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To be fair, I was a fan of Wendell and was happy with the pick.

I’m mostly disappointed with Ducks weird obsession with Jabari Parker.

[boozapalooza]

Assuming no top 5 guy slides, what about trading #12 to OKV for #15 and #24? Move back 3 slots and pick up another first. No reason why OKC needs that pick at #24. Could make a lot of sense for both sides.

[WesPeace]

Assuming no top 5 guy slides, what about trading #12 to OKV for #15 and #24? Move back 3 slots and pick up another first. No reason why OKC needs that pick at #24. Could make a lot of sense for both sides.

Sure for us, but why would OKC want to do that? You would need to add something..

[Muzbar]

Assuming no top 5 guy slides, what about trading #12 to OKV for #15 and #24? Move back 3 slots and pick up another first. No reason why OKC needs that pick at #24. Could make a lot of sense for both sides.

Sure for us, but why would OKC want to do that? You would need to add something..

Not necessarily.

The Thunder may see someone at 12 they don't think will be around by 15 and they've only got so many roster spots. Push comes to shove, give them the #45.

[kulaz3000]

Here is who went after WCJ in 2018:

#8: Collin Sexton

#10: Mikal Bridges

#11: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander

#12: Miles Bridges

#14: Michael Porter Jr.

Was it a good pick by Chicago because he's still mostly starting in the NBA? Would AK get a win for getting a player like that? Or would you be upset because of the players he passed on.

I don't even know if it was an option(probably not), but on draft night my hope was that we traded down with LA for their two picks so we could get Shai and MPJ.

From memory, a lot of people on this board wanted Porter Jr. Quite a few people thought it was worth the swing. I think some people also liked Miles Bridges. I don't remember SGA being on anyone's radar here.

Isn't this discussion irrelevant though? I know we are comparing a player with a former player, but you can't then compare the drafts, because no two drafts are alike.

I just don't think it's fair to say that we drafted WCJ over some other players, and in turn, we should pass on a similar player because of that. And just because they are similar doesn't mean that their trajectory will be the same also, though that would still be a more fair discussion than comparing the draft classes.

[Jvaughn]

I don't even know if it was an option(probably not), but on draft night my hope was that we traded down with LA for their two picks so we could get Shai and MPJ.

From memory, a lot of people on this board wanted Porter Jr. Quite a few people thought it was worth the swing. I think some people also liked Miles Bridges. I don't remember SGA being on anyone's radar here.

Isn't this discussion irrelevant though? I know we are comparing a player with a former player, but you can't then compare the drafts, because no two drafts are alike.

I just don't think it's fair to say that we drafted WCJ over some other players, and in turn, we should pass on a similar player because of that. And just because they are similar doesn't mean that their trajectory will be the same also, though that would still be a more fair discussion than comparing the draft classes.

Their trajectory may not be the same, but Sorber has a lot of the limitations WCJ has/had. Even if his career doesn't play out the same, he's still going to be undersized and not athletically gifted enough to be a rim runner. If we're going for C, there are about 5-6 C's I'd rather take a chance on.

[BullsSD]

Hearing some murmurs from some people who have impressed me and they are saying Raynaud is the real deal. Immediate impact if he has opportunity and solid career projections despite age. Not a second round talent and definitely not available at 45.

I HOPE WE TRADE INTO A LATE FIRST ROUNDER!

12 & 19/26

Ideal draft: Maluach/Essengue at 12 Fleming/Coward at 19 (or 26)

Mid: Fleming/Essengue/Demin then Raynaud at 26